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"Comment" field in the application for membership screen

Chris Jones All Messages By This Member #10751 This topic has arisen following a post on beta from Patti Sliney, but that is not the best place for a disccusion about it, given that it was under Site Updates. Patti's post included the following: Any chance adding a "Comment" field in the application for membership screen, and having the option as a list owner/mod, to make that field mandatory?? We've got this request on our Wish List, just hoping we can have that added in.? We've tried the work around, which is moderating all our list membership, then sending an email message to the prospective member, asking them to tell us why they wish to join our group, but we are getting less than a 10% response. That's sort of OK as far as it goes, but it will not capture those who try to join by email - only those who apply via the web UI. Have you not tried using the Pending Membership facility, which one way or another results in all applicants automatically receiving a message (once the Pending Membership message has been set up) inviting them to provide a simple explanation about why they want to join. It is not a "workaround"; it is an established method of sorting out the wheat from teh chaff right at the outset. The fact that you only get a 10% response may also apply using this method, but it's simple; if they don't reply they don't get in. Chris
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #10765 Chris, That's sort of OK as far as it goes, but it will not capture those who try to join by email - only those who apply via the web UI. There are a number of ways this can be handled. One of which would be to include in the confirmation email (sent after a +subscribe command) a link to a page where the user can provide the requested information. That link could include a unique coding so that no log in is required. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
Patty Sliney All Messages By This Member #10771 Thanks, Shal. Also, it would be nice to have to force membership requests versus just email only requests. This was such an issue for us over on Yahoo Groups as my lists heavily refer to our lists’ photos, Files, database, etc. sections. I would love to be able to exclude email only memberships requests.? -- Patty S.
Jim Higgins #10773 Received from Chris Jones via Groups.Io at 8/4/2018 07:52 PM UTC: This topic has arisen following a post on beta from Patti Sliney, but that is not the best place for a disccusion about it, given that it was under Site Updates. Patti's post included the following: Any chance adding a "Comment" field in the application for membership screen, and having the option as a list owner/mod, to make that field mandatory? We've got this request on our Wish List, just hoping we can have that added in. We've tried the work around, which is moderating all our list membership, then sending an email message to the prospective member, asking them to tell us why they wish to join our group, but we are getting less than a 10% response. At some point people need to accept the consequences of their actions or inactions. If they don't respond, they don't get approved. Likewise, if group owners are upset at a 10% response, loosen the requirements for approval, send requests for th emissing info... in short, MANAGE YOUR GROUP. This simply isn't a Gio problem. Jim H
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #10775 Jim, At some point people need to accept the consequences of their actions or inactions. If they don't respond, they don't get approved. I don't understand the vehemence of your opposition. The request has been made by many group moderators and is in no way out of line. In fact Mark has earlier stated his intent to implement something along these lines that would be considerably more powerful than the equivalent Yahoo Groups feature: This simply isn't a Gio problem. That exact same criticism could be leveled at just about any of Groups.io's more advanced features. Sure, many of these things could be handled manually (e.g. NuM), but they add to the richness of Groups.io's user and moderator experience. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #10777 Patty, Also, it would be nice to have to force membership requests versus just email only requests. This was such an issue for us over on Yahoo Groups as my lists heavily refer to our lists’ photos, Files, database, etc. sections. Give it a while here to see if you have a better experience. It is so much easier to gain web access to a Groups.io group (as opposed to the absurd rigamarole that Yahoo Groups became) that you may not experience the same problems. I'd go so far as to say that in Groups.io there is no such thing as an email-only subscription, there are only subscribers who haven't logged in yet. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
Patty Sliney All Messages By This Member #10779 开云体育 You said: ?At some point people need to accept the consequences of their actions or inactions. If they don't respond, they don't get approved.? Jim, quite right. If they don’t follow the original request requiring a list-specific comment required upon membership submission, their request is declined. Having the comments section included in the membership request allows the list mods to help screen out list spammers. This worked very well for us in the past, on Yahoo groups. We also declined email-only membership requests. The process was simple and required less time and effort from our list mods, many whom work full time jobs. This was appreciated.? You said: ?Likewise, if group owners are upset at a 10% response, loosen the requirements for approval, send requests for th emissing info... in short, MANAGE YOUR GROUP. This simply isn't a Gio problem. Right now, we have no way of screening out spammers unless we require a reply email. It is an “all or none” proposition, so there is no option to “loosen up”. ?So, we either do or do not require a comment. And, We manage our groups very well, running two very large (over 5,00 list members each) and active groups and have done so for over 10 years. ?And, lastly, no one said this is a “problem”, that was your adjective. I am simply asking for a feature that was available over on Yahoo Groups. You may not feel this feature is valuable for your groups, which is fine. If the feature were added as I suggested, it would be optional. Your could simply ignore it. Every group has different dynamics and needs. For the purposes of my groups, this feature would be very helpful, and would provide a more streamlined process, versus the current workaround option.? Patty Sliney Sent from iPaddy ? -- Patty S.
Patty Sliney All Messages By This Member #10786 Shal, for sure, it's been WAY, WAY better.? We've been able to easily manage our list members with creating passwords, if needed.? Improvement is huge, we don't have to constantly deny email-only membership requests like we did with Yahoo Groups.? Those created all sorts of issues, when an email-only list member would try to go see a Photo talked about on our list, only to find out they could not.? Then, list mods having to try to help that person create a full membership.? That was a huge waste of moderator time.? Groups.io has been wonderful so far, very pleased with the platform, especially with the addition of the chat room!? That was a feature we used to use quite a bit with Yahoo Groups, and was very much missed when Yahoo decided to arbitrarily remove it.? -- Patty S.

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