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Hi All,

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I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I¡¯d like to transfer to Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name. That group has less than 40 members. I can¡¯t get a response from the owner. Is there any way I can get that name so it can be retained for the transfer from Yahoo?

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Thanks,

Kim Saign
 

Kim,

I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I¡¯d like to transfer to
Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name.
Technically that's not a problem - in the transfer there's no requirement that the group name in Groups.io match that of the Y!Group.

So you could take this as your opportunity to improve the group's name, were that something you would have considered were it not for the disruption.

I can¡¯t get a response from the owner. Is there any way I can get that
name so it can be retained for the transfer from Yahoo?
I doubt it, not without that owner's cooperation.

If group membership is open (or even if restricted) I'd probably join that group and then send to the +owner address again. That's because, unlike Yahoo, mods/owners in Groups.io have an option for what +owner messages to receive, and that owner may have chosen not to receive +owner messages from non-members.

Another thing you could try, as a member, is posting to the group itself. Particularly if the group is moderated, or new-member moderated, you may be able to get the owner's attention in their Pending Messages list.

The venue of last resort would be [email protected] but, absent some type of trademark situation or a similar violation of the TOS by that group's owner, I think the answer is likely to be "first come, first served".

Shal


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Hi Shal,

I just requested a membership in the group to see if I can make contact with
the owner.

Thanks for the suggestions on this.

Kim

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Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 2:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any
recourse?

Kim,

> I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I'd like to transfer to >
Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name.

Technically that's not a problem - in the transfer there's no requirement
that the group name in Groups.io match that of the Y!Group.

So you could take this as your opportunity to improve the group's name, were
that something you would have considered were it not for the disruption.

> I can't get a response from the owner. Is there any way I can get that >
name so it can be retained for the transfer from Yahoo?

I doubt it, not without that owner's cooperation.

If group membership is open (or even if restricted) I'd probably join that
group and then send to the +owner address again. That's because, unlike
Yahoo, mods/owners in Groups.io have an option for what +owner messages to
receive, and that owner may have chosen not to receive
+owner messages from non-members.

Another thing you could try, as a member, is posting to the group itself.
Particularly if the group is moderated, or new-member moderated, you may be
able to get the owner's attention in their Pending Messages list.

The venue of last resort would be [email protected] but, absent some type of
trademark situation or a similar violation of the TOS by that group's owner,
I think the answer is likely to be "first come, first served".

Shal


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Arno Martens
 

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:57 am, Shal Farley wrote:

Technically that's not a problem - in the transfer there's no requirement that
the group name in Groups.io match that of the Y!Group.

I my cases it was not even possible.
From the DOS days we use underscores for spaces.
GIO does not permit underscores in a Group name so we replaced them with dashes.

It may be an answer for the OP to hyphenate the Group name.
Arno
 

I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I'd like to transfer to >
Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name.
Having a different name will actually be easier for people. If the name is the same it will autofill in address lines as the Yahoo group. It¡¯s been a problem for me in naming 15 or so groups.

Old names were tvc-[team]@yahoogroups.com

New names are [team]@tvc.groups.io

People file the addresses under TVC [team list name] because TVC stands for the whole organization. Butt the minute TVC is typed, the autofill starts the old yahoo address.

I wish I had spelled out something and dropped ¡°tvc¡± all together.

With 4800 members a newish name might be a blessing in disguise.


Sharon
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On 7/7/2018 05:40, Arno Martens wrote:
I my cases it was not even possible.
From the DOS days we use underscores for spaces.
GIO does not permit underscores in a Group name so we replaced them with dashes.
For completeness, the reason for that is:

Hello,

Thanks for the suggestion. Underscores are not allowed because DNS names can't have underscores, and when you convert a group into a group and subgroups, the original group name is used for the subdomain.

Thanks,
Mark
Best,

Glenn

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