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I've decided to transfer my last YG group (a newsletter) on Groups.io.
This time, though, with the GDPR in mind, I am sending a message to each member to inform them of the forthcoming transfer so that they can unsubscribe before the move, if they wish.
I am getting quite a number of bounces, on account of e-mail addresses no longer valid or aborted delivery (mainly affecting Yahoo accounts). I am not surprised, yet, I am not sure how to deal with all these bounced accounts. I was thinking of unsubscribing them from the YG group, but this is turning out a bit of a job, actually.
Maybe, after informing all members, I should simply move the group and let IO take care of the bouncing accounts (at least putting them in a manageable list)?

Thank you in advance for your help.
Marina

Marina,

it was quite a lot of work to inform all the members of my group before the transfer. We were close to 600. I then deleted the ones of which the mails returned which were quite a few (close to 150). But even after the transfer there were many who ended up in the boucing list of my new group.io (most of them with yahoo-addresses).

Having said this I find it much easier to send a bouncing message to members from the io bouncing list than from yahoo. Had I known this before I wouldn?t have bothered so much about deleting bouncing members before the transfer. Therefore IMO it?s more reasonable to delete them after the "show-down".

Victoria

People bouncing in the yahoo group at the time of transfer are not transferred.
I sent an invite to all bouncing members after the transfer, I am not sure if anybody bothered, suspicion is no.
Trying to unbounce members is indeed much easier with io, I hardly ever bothered after yahoo's neonizing as it was just too much hassle.
Barbara

Marina,

I am getting quite a number of bounces, on account of e-mail addresses
no longer valid or aborted delivery (mainly affecting Yahoo accounts).
I am not surprised, yet, I am not sure how to deal with all these
bounced accounts.

As Barbara said, those Y!Group members in the Bouncing list won't be transferred. So you really needn't go and delete them.

However, the list of Bouncing members in your Y!Group may have two types of error: 1) addresses missing from the bouncing list that are actually bad; and 2) addresses on the bouncing list that actually are ok.

Addresses in case (1) will be immediately picked up by Groups.io's bouncing mechanism. The notice sent by the transfer agent, and/or your group's Welcome notice, will identify if those bounce.

Addresses in case (2) are hopefully small in number, but you might consider sending a Groups.io invite to the Y!Group's bouncing list to see if you pick any of them up. The majority of those invites will bounce of course, but it is easier than contacting them individually. If you have fewer than 1000 members you can export that list from Yahoo and then paste them into your Groups.io's Invite page.

Shal


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On a related subject, once your transfer is complete it's a good idea to go to your Yahoo Group and post a notice on the home page that the group has moved and the new homepages is (your new GIO URL).? Once I did that, I changed all messages on the YG to "moderated" so members who didn't get word of the transfer and tried to post to the old group would be called to my attention, and each got an email explaining the situation.? That process has worked well.

Milt Baker

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:06 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

Addresses in case (2) are hopefully small in number, but you might
consider sending a Groups.io invite to the Y!Group's bouncing list to
see if you pick any of them up. The majority of those invites will
bounce of course, but it is easier than contacting them individually. If
you have fewer than 1000 members you can export that list from Yahoo and
then paste them into your Groups.io's Invite page.

Thank you for this advice, Shal. I hadn't thought about the Invite feature. However, as already discussed, the Invite message in English with only the possibility of inserting in the middle of it a text in a foreign language, can be confusing for foreign users.
I finally managed to contact all members of the YG group and, so far, 3 of them have unsubscribe. I sent a 'special notice' post in the group about the transfer, hoping to reach those members who are not receiving posts but can still read them via web.

At the moment, I find myself with around 70-80 bouncing accounts on 800. They are all scattered in my mailbox and not neatly listed in a special webpage as Yahoo used to do (I don't know why they gave up this useful feature). Instead of laboriously copying each address and pasting it into a file or Invite message, I'll let Groups.io take care of them. At least, once the group has moved over, I'll have a bouncing members list easy to handle.

Thanks also to Milt for the suggestion. I did the same thing for my previously transferred group and it worked fine.

Have a nice day (or a nice night) everyone,
Marina