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Okay, so looks like I'm going to try to move my two large Yahoo Groups over to Groups.IO.? Just tired on the non-functionality, and worsening issues.Have have two questions (so far):? Questions #1:? So, in order to move my Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO, I understand that first, I'm going to need to create a Groups.IO group to migrate my Yahoo Group over to?? And second question I have is, in the creation of my new Groups.IO, how to make the correct Privacy selection, on the "Create Group" screen.? So, not sure I'm actually understanding what the options are telling me, so it's hard to make the correct selection, as certain selections are non-reversible.? The choices are:
- Listed in directory, publicly viewable archives
- Not listed in directory, publicly viewable archives
- Listed in directory, private archives
- Not listed in directory, private archives
So, what I want is the group to be visible to folks looking to join, but I do not want our messages, files, photos, etc. to be visible publicly.? Only visible to approved list members.? So, I am thinking I would want to select #3.? My concern is, when I select that option, I get a pop up warning that states once this is selected, you cannot make archives public.? They stay private for the life of the list.? So, just wanting to make sure I'm understanding the definition of "archives".? I am taking that to mean my past messages, files, photos, databases, etc?? Am I correctly understanding this?? Thanks.? Hopefully, this will be a fairly seamless process.? -- Patty S.
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Yes, 100% correct on all.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Patty Sliney via Groups.Io <hoosierquilt@...> wrote: Okay, so looks like I'm going to try to move my two large Yahoo Groups over to Groups.IO.? Just tired on the non-functionality, and worsening issues.Have have two questions (so far):? Questions #1:? So, in order to move my Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO, I understand that first, I'm going to need to create a Groups.IO group to migrate my Yahoo Group over to?? And second question I have is, in the creation of my new Groups.IO, how to make the correct Privacy selection, on the "Create Group" screen.? So, not sure I'm actually understanding what the options are telling me, so it's hard to make the correct selection, as certain selections are non-reversible.? The choices are:
- Listed in directory, publicly viewable archives
- Not listed in directory, publicly viewable archives
- Listed in directory, private archives
- Not listed in directory, private archives
So, what I want is the group to be visible to folks looking to join, but I do not want our messages, files, photos, etc. to be visible publicly.? Only visible to approved list members.? So, I am thinking I would want to select #3.? My concern is, when I select that option, I get a pop up warning that states once this is selected, you cannot make archives public.? They stay private for the life of the list.? So, just wanting to make sure I'm understanding the definition of "archives".? I am taking that to mean my past messages, files, photos, databases, etc?? Am I correctly understanding this?? Thanks.? Hopefully, this will be a fairly seamless process.?
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Actually, good question on the other content besides messages. "Archives" refers to messages. I'm not sure about the other content. I suspect that needs to be clarified but I think it does apply to all content, not just the "archives" (which, strictly speaking, refers only to messages).
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Ok, I have some clarification: in a group with "private archives," all content is private with the possible exception of the Wiki pages and the calendar, which can be made accessible to the public at any point. The Group Guidelines can also be made public.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Patty Sliney via Groups.Io <hoosierquilt@...> wrote: Thanks, J.?
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:21 pm, Lawrence London wrote:
you can click on making it private (either of the private options) and it will tell you that if you do that it can never be reversed, i.e. always private.
True, but Patty's question was what content, exactly, remains private. "Archive" refers specifically to the message list. But actually, all content in a private group remains private for its lifetime except possibly the wiki, the calendar, and the group guidelines, any of which can be made public at any time.? ? -- J
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Patty, Questions #1: So, in order to move my Yahoo Groups to Groups.IO, I
understand that first, I'm going to need to create a Groups.IO group
to migrate my Yahoo Group over to? Correct. There's no requirement that the Groups.io group have the same name as the Yahoo Group. The identity of the Groups.io group is something you tell the transfer agent in Step 2.2. So, what I want is the group to be visible to folks looking to join,
but I do not want our messages, files, photos, etc. to be visible
publicly. ...
So, I am thinking I would want to select #3. Correct. So, just wanting to make sure I'm understanding the definition of
"archives". I am taking that to mean my past messages, files, photos,
databases, etc? No. In this control "archives" refers only to the messages. Other content areas have their own access controls, further down the page. None of those are irreversible, and none are affected by the choice you make for the (messages) archive. As J noted, of the other areas only the Wiki, Calendar, and the Guidelines have the option of being made publicly visible. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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J, But actually, all content in a private group remains private for its
lifetime except possibly the wiki, the calendar, and the group
guidelines, any of which can be made public at any time. That statement is true of groups with public (message) archives as well. Aside from those you named, the other content areas cannot be made public even if the archives are. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Thanks, Shal, for confirming J's answers.? Lawrence, I wanted to make sure I fully understood the definition of "archives", as making that private choice is a "once and done", so I didn't want to make a mistake and choose that, then not be able to reverse my choice if I didn't understand the meaning of "archive".? So, I'll go back through and make sure all the rest of the sections are also viewable only by list subscribers.? Appreciate all the help.? Big step for us.? And Shal, my list members are not the most savvy computer users, so I've opted to keep my list names the same as I move them over to Groups.IO, for fear my Yahoo Groups list members might get confused.? I have enough issues with changing the Yahoo Group name over the years (what a ridiculous kurfflufle, causing a bunch of unnecessary resubscription requests), so anything to K.I.S.S. for my group members, the better for the list mods and owner!?
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