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[tvc] Messages having different times


 

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In our team¡¯s first meeting on , we noticed that the time on everyone¡¯s message was off by a few minutes in either direction or by hours. I just found the setting that determines time.

In account settings, in the left menu under Preferences, the default timezone is Pacific, and the default for the message time is relative, ¡°within 5 minutes.¡±

Sharon
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Sharon,

In our team¡¯s first meeting on Groups.io <>, we
noticed that the time on everyone¡¯s message was off by a few minutes
in either direction or by hours.
Whole hours (or rarely half hours) can be accounted for as time zone differences.

A few minutes I'm not so sure about - not if everyone is looking at the time as displayed on site. If some are looking in email interfaces then there could be discrepancies between sent time, approved or posted time and received time. If the message was moderated there can be an arbitrarily large discrepancy between the time it was sent and the time it was posted and received.

In account settings, in the left menu under Preferences, the default
timezone is Pacific, ...
As of January 12th there's a setting in the Default Sub Settings tab of your group's Settings page to preset the time zone for new users. This only affects people who join your group without having previously joined a group or logged in to Groups.io.


and the default for the message time is relative, ¡°within 5 minutes.¡±
No. That is "5 minutes ago" - an example of relative time. It is not a control over time accuracy.

The feature is whether you want time displayed in a relative way ("an hour ago", "yesterday") when it is recent enough, or whether you always want to see the actual time displayed.

This control by the way is largely or entirely ignored, and Mark ought to remove it. He's settled on using abbreviated absolute time everywhere, with hover text showing the full date/time string.

Shal


 

On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

and the default for the message time is relative, ¡°within 5 minutes.¡±
No. That is "5 minutes ago" - an example of relative time. It is not a control over time accuracy.

The feature is whether you want time displayed in a relative way ("an hour ago", "yesterday") when it is recent enough, or whether you always want to see the actual time displayed.

This control by the way is largely or entirely ignored, and Mark ought to remove it. He's settled on using abbreviated absolute time everywhere, with hover text showing the full date/time string.
Thank you, Shal for all the clarifications. I¡¯m setting up two detail projects ¡ª several conjoined Groups.io and a time banking system. The number of boxes to check off on dozens of screens numbs my brain.

I would eliminate this. I scrolled through my beyond full inbox a few days ago and all the messages were for today, yesterday, two hours ago. To quote the date in my return message, I had to figure out what it was. I don¡¯t think there is a setting in Apple Mail to turn this off but you remind me to look.

Thanks again,
Sharon


 

Sharon,
Under my Account is Preferences, then Time Display. which can be set to Relative ( ie 5
minutes ago) or Absolute (ie Jan 13, 2016, 4:47pm )

OK,
Tony

On 13 Feb 2018 at 9:54, Sharon Villines wrote about :
Subject : Re: [GMF] [tvc] Messages having dif

On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

and the default for the message time is relative, ¡°within 5 minutes.¡±
No. That is "5 minutes ago" - an example of relative time. It is not a control over time accuracy.

The feature is whether you want time displayed in a relative way ("an hour ago", "yesterday") when it is recent enough, or whether you always want to see the actual time displayed.

This control by the way is largely or entirely ignored, and Mark ought to remove it. He's settled on using abbreviated absolute time everywhere, with hover text showing the full date/time string.
Thank you, Shal for all the clarifications. I¡¯m setting up two detail projects ¡ª several conjoined
Groups.io and a time banking system. The number of boxes to check off on dozens of screens
numbs my brain.

I would eliminate this. I scrolled through my beyond full inbox a few days ago and all the
messages were for today, yesterday, two hours ago. To quote the date in my return message, I
had to figure out what it was. I don¡¯t think there is a setting in Apple Mail to turn this off but you
remind me to look.

Thanks again,
Sharon


 

Tony,

Under my Account is Preferences, then Time Display. which can be set
to Relative (ie 5 minutes ago) or Absolute (ie Jan 13, 2016, 4:47pm)
Yes, however as I said, and you quoted...

On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
...
This control by the way is largely or entirely ignored, and Mark
ought to remove it. He's settled on using abbreviated absolute time
everywhere, with hover text showing the full date/time string.
Shal