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Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a gmail)
user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.
The pattern seems to be groups that I am an admin of. It does not
happen, for example, with this group.
If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
Best,
Glenn
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Edit: this one did come back to me, so
admin status is unrelated.
Best,
Glenn
On 03/09/2024 08:42, Glenn Glazer via groups.io wrote:
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Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a
gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.
The pattern seems to be groups that I am an admin of. It does not
happen, for example, with this group.
If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
Best,
Glenn
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On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.
Probably relates to the DMARC change that happened on Feb 1.??
If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
I'm not sure that you can. Previously, GMail users could sometimes avoid getting copies of their own messages by? UNchecking the box found at the bottom their account Preferences page:?? /account?page=prefs? ?With the From line now being rewritten due to DMARC, I doubt it matters anymore. ? Regards, Bruce
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My guess would
be the change - see??-
on 5 March to rewrite date headers on passage through
groups.io
Historically, and without evasive action,
gmail does not show your own messages because it think you already have a
copy in your mail database (in the Sent box). The date change may break
this behaviour so that gmail shows its
arrival.
Malcolm, maybe barking up the wrong
tree.
On 09 March 2024 16:59:35 (+00:00), Glenn Glazer
wrote:
Edit: this one did come back to me, so
admin status is unrelated.
Best,
Glenn
On 03/09/2024 08:42, Glenn Glazer via groups.io wrote:
Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a
gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.
The pattern seems to be groups that I am an admin of. It does not
happen, for example, with this group.
If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
Best,
Glenn
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Sic Semper Tyrannis
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Malcolm
Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
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Thanks, Bruce and Malcolm.
I'll think about writing a filter on my side.
Best,
Glenn
On 03/09/2024 09:05, Bruce Bowman wrote:
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On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started
(as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the
group.
Probably relates to the DMARC change that happened on Feb 1.??
If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
I'm not sure that you can.
Previously, GMail users could sometimes avoid getting copies of
their own messages by?UNchecking
the box found at the bottom their account Preferences page:??/account?page=prefs?
?With the From line now being rewritten due to DMARC, I doubt it
matters anymore.
?
Regards,
Bruce
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FWIW, for those who use Thunderbird,
this works:
Best,
Glenn
On 03/09/2024 09:33, Glenn Glazer wrote:
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Thanks, Bruce and Malcolm.
I'll think about writing a filter on my side.
Best,
Glenn
On 03/09/2024 09:05, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've
started (as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I
send to the group.
Probably relates to the DMARC change that happened on Feb 1.??
If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it
off?
I'm not sure that you can.
Previously, GMail users could sometimes avoid getting copies of
their own messages by?UNchecking
the box found at the bottom their account Preferences page:??/account?page=prefs?
?With the From line now being rewritten due to DMARC, I doubt it
matters anymore.
?
Regards,
Bruce
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My question would be why wouldn't you want a copy of your own posts?
Your black screen print is unreadable for me at least
Not that I would want to stop receiving copies of my own posts anyway so its not a problem to me
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 09/03/2024 17:59, Glenn Glazer wrote: FWIW, for those who use Thunderbird, this works:
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On 03/09/2024 10:22, Nivard Ovington
wrote:
My question would be why wouldn't you want a copy of your own
posts?
Because I already have one, in my sent box, as others described
earlier.
Your black screen print is unreadable for me at least
I've added it as an attachment instead of inline, perhaps that will
help.
Not that I would want to stop receiving copies of my own posts
anyway so its not a problem to me
Your empathy is overwhelming.
Best,
Glenn
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
On 09/03/2024 17:59, Glenn Glazer wrote:
FWIW, for those who use Thunderbird, this
works:
Best,
Glenn
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I've
added it as an attachment instead of inline, perhaps that will
help.
It does help as and attachments in cases like this are preferred as
it gives us the image at 100% right there in local/online message
view without having to save it first or copy & paste and view
outside the email client or online view.? When an image is inserted
inline GIO will resize it to display only 640x480. (IIRC)
My
question would be why wouldn't you want a copy of your own
posts?
Because I already have one, in my sent box, as others described
earlier.
Technically this is not 100% accurate.? What you do have is a copy
of what you sent to the group or how it looks to you, but
not a copy of what GIO sent out on your behalf and others
received and how it looks to them, and as such it may not be exactly
the same and I'm not referring to just the added footers, group tag,
etc. Case in point your initial Tbird filter post, it looks fine in
your Sent folder but that's not 100% the same as GIO sent it out and
viewed by members in their email client or online.
Now I guess most people don't mind this subtle distinction and
that's fine, but personally, since GIO is an email-based ecosystem
primarily, even if I have the copy of what I sent I also I want to
get a copy of what GIO sent out and others got, I've caught
different types of (both admin and regular member and both test and
production) errors or problems that way which I would have more than
likely missed otherwise. Think of it as "post-release QA", the Sent
folder copy is the book manuscript you supplied to the publisher,
and the Inbox folder copy the published book of yours.
Cheers,
Christos
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On 03/09/2024 11:51, Christos Psarras
wrote:
Now I guess most people don't mind this subtle distinction and
that's fine,
Correct. For me it is a distinction without a difference.
but
personally, since GIO is an email-based ecosystem primarily, even
if I have the copy of what I sent I also I want to get a copy of
what GIO sent out and others got, I've caught different types of
(both admin and regular member and both test and production)
errors or problems that way which I would have more than likely
missed otherwise. Think of it as "post-release QA", the Sent
folder copy is the book manuscript you supplied to the publisher,
and the Inbox folder copy the published book of yours.
For the few cases where I think this may be an issue, I can always
visit the website to see the outbound version. Getting a copy of
every single email I send is, IMO, overkill for this.
Best,
Glenn
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The same thing is happening to me every message or reply I make comes twice a bit annoying. Wondered if happening to others. I'm a gmail user too so wonder if happening to others?
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I have posted
this as an issue in the [beta] group but it wont be approved (or not!) for
distribution until the sun rises in Mark's
timezone.
Malcolm.
On 10 March 2024 10:23:19
(+00:00), Jackie Preval via groups.io wrote: The same thing is happening to me every message or reply I make comes
twice a bit annoying. Wondered if happening to others. I'm a gmail user too
so wonder if happening to others?
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I am a gmail user and have not received duplicates as described
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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Bruce
Nivard Ovington
Christos Psarras
Jackie Preval