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Re: how to delete a subgroup

peterscottcook@... (Pete Cook) — Sat, 10 May 2025 16:28:05 -0700

Rush, as the owner of the main group you can go to the subgroup’s member listing, choose any member (including yourself), and change their Role from “member�� to “owner.”��

Pete

Re: how to delete a subgroup

rwkester@... (Rush Kester) — Sat, 10 May 2025 11:55:29 -0700

How do I create a new Owner for a Subgroup? The previous Owner is deceased.

I am an Owner/Moderator for the Main group.

Rush Kester

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Re: Changing subgroup owner

andy_wedge@... (Andy Wedge) — Sat, 10 May 2025 00:11:14 -0700

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 08:06 AM, Rush Kester wrote:

Where do I find the screen that gives the option to give a subgroup member Owner or Moderator?

Go to the member list in the subgroup, open a member record there and change the Role:

This is all covered in the Owner's Manual.

Regards

Andy

Re: Changing subgroup owner

rwkester@... (Rush Kester) — Sat, 10 May 2025 00:06:23 -0700

Where do I find the screen that gives the option to give a subgroup member Owner or Moderator?

Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

KWKloeber@... (KWKloeber) — Fri, 09 May 2025 16:11:46 -0700

Barry

Well, the below test seems to contradict what Mark has responded to me in the past about the App (I use iOS) not handling pasted-in images. Although the result may not be consistent and down the line an image might disappear into the dreaded broken-image icon.

Re: how to edit front page

KWKloeber@... (KWKloeber) — Fri, 09 May 2025 16:11:28 -0700

Note that if your group setting is to Normalize messages (no font color, style, etc.) and you want stylized text on the Home Page -- simply change your group setting to allow it, make the Home Page edits, and when finished change the message setting back to Normalize.

-Ken

Re: how to delete a subgroup

frances@... (Frances) — Fri, 09 May 2025 12:39:00 -0700

I am trying to remove a subgroup - the settings page do not have a delete button. Did something change?

Go to your subgroup homepage, then go to Admin, Settings for that subgroup.

At the bottom right, there is a delete group.

JUST be sure that you are in your subgroup, not your main group.

/helpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/groupprocedures/group_deleting.htm

Frances

Help available from /helpcenterand GMF wiki.

Re: how to delete a subgroup

john@... (John Ata) — Fri, 09 May 2025 12:31:50 -0700

I am trying to remove a subgroup - the settings page do not have a delete button. Did something change?

Re: how to edit front page

frances@... (Frances) — Thu, 08 May 2025 21:01:36 -0700

Hi again

Here's a link to Help about General Settings and Group Description.

/helpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/groupsettings/settings_general.htm

Frances

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Re: how to edit front page

frances@... (Frances) — Thu, 08 May 2025 20:56:50 -0700

Sarah, it is easy to change your photo and icon.

/helpcenter/single/groupsettings/cover_photo_icon.htm

You can also change your text on your group home page - also in - Admin, Settings, and then Group Description.

If you wanted to update your description, remember that you can use all the editing tools. And I would urge you not to put too much on the homepage. Remember that you can create Group Guidelines for the sidebar for group members. You can also pin a post or two to the top of the messages list.

Frances

Help available from /helpcenterand GMF wiki.

how to edit front page

sarahseventytwo@... (Sarah Shapiro) — Thu, 08 May 2025 20:46:49 -0700

I need to edit my group's front page to reflect major changes made in the group. In clicking around, I found instructions only for changing the photo, which for some odd reason is a herd of elephants! Ok, elephants. What goes below the elephants badly needs to be updated, but I cannot find any way to do that.

Sarah

Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

KWKloeber@... (KWKloeber) — Tue, 06 May 2025 20:47:19 -0700

[Edit: Barry, and this is an edit (I inserted another image at the bottom.) ]

[ OP: ]

Barry, you're not “supposed�� to be able to edit images. (There are pros and cons to that but, for better or worse, that's the decision.

What I do is copy/paste my original post into a new message, include the proper image(s), and delete my original. It appears to everyone that it is the ssme message and is essentially seamless (except of course for the date.) I make note of the edit ( [Edit:] ) so that everyone understands why the re-send was done.

Using the web interface I have copy/pasted-in an image to edit a post, but that has been haphazard as to the result, AND, I understand that the Apps do not render such pasted images.

Below is a pasted-in image using my PC/web interface to compose this message.

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 06:33 AM, Barry wrote:

Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

christos@... (Christos Psarras) — Tue, 06 May 2025 18:35:46 -0700

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 01:50 PM, Don Grass wrote:

Or the person that sent the post with the wrong attachment, could send another another post with the right attachment, and say something like "Woops, I included the wrong attachment with my first post, and this is the one I meant to send."

That's what I would also suggest, with the addition of after doing that, the mod (or the original poster if allowed) of that message edit the original online-posted message (using the Hamburger-More menu), to delete the erroneous photo attachment, and add a bold sentence in the message body text pointing about the photo being removed because it was the wrong one and the correct photo is in message 12345 further down this thread; the 12345 message number could also be hyperlinked to the permalink of the corrected-photo new message. When saving the edits I would also choose to resend the message to the group if it would be beneficial.

Cheers,

Christos

Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

computerhusky@... (Thomas Gruber) — Tue, 06 May 2025 11:13:23 -0700

Hi Andy,

Thanks a lot for the script! I tried it, running it on iPad using Pythonista, and it works great! Will try it in other environments (Android 15 on tablet, Windows 11 and Mac OS Sequoia). Minor modifications may be necessary for the various environments, I‘m curious to see how much. On iPad, only 1 include statement didn‘t work, and I simply dropped it - didn‘t do any harm it seems :-)

Your approach, using the groups.io API, is very interesting for me, will dig further into this. I had intended to work without it, using the group export into a json file and processing that, probably just extracting the relevant objects needed (hashtag name and number of topics using it) and writing that to a CSV file, which could then be imported into Excel and sorted there. I‘ll still try that just out of curiosity.

We certainly don‘t want to make you run a Python lecture here - there‘s plenty of info available via Google ��

Kind regards

Thomas

Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

dgrass1@... (Don Grass) — Tue, 06 May 2025 10:50:01 -0700

Or the person that sent the post with the wrong attachment, could send another another post with the right attachment, and say something like "Woops, I included the wrong attachment with my first post, and this is the one I meant to send."

Don G

Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

bowman46118@... (Bruce Bowman) — Tue, 06 May 2025 06:18:30 -0700

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 06:33 AM, Barry wrote:

Have been asked whether it is possible to replace a photo/attachment in an existing thread & outside of a private album.

Nivard is correct... you can neither add nor replace attachments in an existing message. You can, however, delete them.

If the attachment is something group members will refer to frequently (maybe it's in a pinned topic?), I suggest you upload it somewhere else (perhaps the Files area) and edit the message to provide a link to that location.

Advantage: If someone has the message bookmarked, their bookmark will still work.

Disadvantage: If you do place it in Files they'll have to log in, so it won't work to share anything with non-members.

Just another option,

Bruce

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Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

ovington.one@... (Nivard Ovington) — Tue, 06 May 2025 04:33:51 -0700

I do not think you can replace an attachment to an existing post however, you as owner could delete just the attachment and edit the original post to say see reply with attachment, then reply to that post with the new attachment

The group would receive the reply with new attachment but you can explain the reason for that

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

replacing photos in an existing thread

supermarine1931@... (Barry) — Tue, 06 May 2025 03:33:57 -0700

Have been asked whether it is possible to replace a photo/attachment in an existing thread & outside of a private album. All I can see is to delete the thread completely, but by doing this any new thread/photo will no longer be in sequence. As an owner of the group - I do not think even I can do this ? barry

Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

andy_wedge@... (Andy Wedge) — Tue, 06 May 2025 02:18:34 -0700

On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 09:40 AM, Thomas Gruber wrote:

Are you willing to share the python script you mentioned?

Sorry for the delay, I've been away for a few days. As Duane stated in #49258, the API has been updated to allow topic_count to be used as sort parameter.

I've attached the following files:

a Python script which will list the most used hashtags in descending order
a sample of the output from the script showing the hashtags used here in the GroupManagersForum

Things to note:

I am assuming people either have Python installed, know how to do it or can work it out. Other than a link to this page, further support is outside the scope of this group.
The script is supplied as is and I cannot provide customisations for different members.
The script does not make any updates to your group. It is read-only.
The script will check for values in environment variables GROUPSIO_EMAIL, GROUPSIO_PASSWORD and GROUPSIO_GROUPNAME. If they do not exist, you will be asked to supply values at run time.
Parameter values entered at run time may be echoed in the output log so be careful who you share that with.
To list hashtags in a main group, use the first part of the group posting address as the GROUPNAME e.g. GroupManagersForum
To list hashtags in a subgroup, use the format maingroupname+subgroupname e.g. beta+app

I hope that helps.

Regards

Andy

Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

mainevent@... (Cal) — Mon, 05 May 2025 12:25:23 -0700

Greetings Ward,

I have been running groups since back when Mark ha eGroups (before Yahoo Groups). Over the last three decdes, I have operated many dozens of groups. A couple of additional points from my experiences:

- I use the main group as for when all members need to communicate, such as setting agendae for meetings, deciding meeting dates/times, and (most important for my groups) to have discussions that everyone can participate in. I run the groups for a couple of committees: Those who are members of the whole committee use the main group (as well as non-members sending us emails), and those who are members of a subcommittee or working group discussion the business of that group. I have it set up so that members of the main committee cannot see messages in the subgroups of which they aren't members.

- I use hyphens, rather than underscores for multi-word-names. (I find the use of underscores highly annoying: Underscores require a modifier key to be pressed as well as the main key, and I can never remember which main key does underscores, whereas the hyphen doesn't require a modifier key and is easy to spot on the keyboard. I find that people who use underscores tend to be more tech-savvy, which represents a challenge for those who are less tech-savvy.) And due to the differences in the way text is selected by double- and triple-clicking on a Mac vs Windows (I'm on a Mac and the majority of members fo my groups seems o be on Macs), it's just easier not to have to remember those differences; hence, using the hyphen). (YMMV.)

Welcome to Groups.io!

Cal