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On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 05:06 PM, Karen Ivy wrote:

I just got a notice that a colleague of mine (we are both officers of local Neighborhood Councils in Oakland) was banned from a group for sending "spam."

Was she actually banned, or just removed?

Was it because she sent spam, or because a group message was marked as spam on her end? People sometimes do that as a shortcut, instead of attempting to figure out how to unsubscribe.

See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/working-with-group-messages/responding-to-a-you-have-been-removed?

The "spam" message was one that I personally posted to the list, she must have tried to resend it to the group.? My email was a perfectly standard notice that meeting minutes had been posted and had 2 TinyURL links to the web page and the document itself.? Why was this message banned??
Why wasn't I banned when I sent it?? If it's illegal to send emails with TinyURLs, where does it say that?? I've been doing this since we joined Groups.io with no problem that I knew.

Check your message archive. If the message you're talking about still appears there, it was not banned, reported as inappropriate to groups.io support, or any such thing.

I did look in the group owners manual and tried to follow the rules to unban her, but she was NOT listed in the "banned members" list, even though this just happened today.?

That's because she was not banned, just removed.??

Frankly, this is beginning to annoy me.? I use TinyURL for links to my web site because I've had experience with long URLs in emails being clipped by some email clients to the point they are unusable.

I'm confident that your use of TinyURL has no bearing at all on what you and your colleague have observed.

Regards,
Bruce

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I just got a notice that a colleague of mine (we are both officers of local Neighborhood Councils in Oakland) was banned from a group for sending "spam." The "spam" message was one that I personally posted to the list, she must have tried to resend it to the group.? My email was a perfectly standard notice that meeting minutes had been posted and had 2 TinyURL links to the web page and the document itself.? Why was this message banned?? Why wasn't I banned when I sent it?? If it's illegal to send emails with TinyURLs, where does it say that?? I've been doing this since we joined Groups.io with no problem that I knew.

I did look in the group owners manual and tried to follow the rules to unban her, but she was NOT listed in the "banned members" list, even though this just happened today.? Frankly, this is beginning to annoy me.? I use TinyURL for links to my web site because I've had experience with long URLs in emails being clipped by some email clients to the point they are unusable.
Karen Ivy

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 02:48 PM, Magnus Hunter wrote:

Is this limited circulation of the Objection report? a fault ?? - as I would have expected the Objection report to be sent to all 4 Owners.

Magnus -- Individual Moderators/Owners can fine-tune how these notifications are sent to them, or opt out entirely. This was part of the "Notifications Overhaul" that occurred back in June. More details on this than you probably ever wanted to know can be found at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/21482.

Or is there any way, tick box or whatever to control, who gets it and who doesn't ?

Click on Subscription on the left-side menu bar. On the resulting page, make an appropriate selection from the "Reports" pull-down menu in the Moderator Notifications block. Be sure to save your changes.

I suggest examining the settings for some of your other notifications in this block while you're at it.

Regards,
Bruce

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Bruce . . .


On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 06:40:28 -0700, "Bruce Bowman"
<bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Donald -- It stores every copy. Just look in Emailed Photos and you'll see all the dupes.

It is as I suspected. I made an announcement in one of my groups to
please delete the attachment on all replies so we don't accumulate
extra dead files.

Thanks!!!

Donald


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On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 02:46 PM, Alex Stone wrote:

I have an existing free group which I would like to try a free month of pro with? Can this be done and if so, how?

The Premium trial is for new groups only.

Regards,
Bruce

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I am the active lead Owner of our Group and have 3 other people as sleeping Owners. A new member after looking at a photo on our Group site wanted to add info, pressed the "Report this photo" and created an Objection report,? causing Groups.io to send out an email message to 2 only of the sleeping Owners and not to myself or the other sleeping Owner..
Is this limited circulation of the Objection report? a fault ?? - as I would have expected the Objection report to be sent to all 4 Owners.
Or is there any way, tick box or whatever to control, who gets it and who doesn't ?

I have an existing free group which I would like to try a free month of pro with? Can this be done and if so, how?

PS. ?I should have said the mod uses Outlook. ?I don’t!
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Peter

Thank you Francis, no I had not.? I did do some searches not sure why I missed it.? I am confused regarding something on that PDF.? It says premium groups created by Oct 22 2020 are $110.? Should that be Oct 2019?? Our group was created 11/9/2019 and we paid $220 at that time and the billing page says 220 for our next payment.

John P

[Moderator note: Groan...I'll fix that, too (sheepish grin)]

Hi Stan

Firstly, no I have not noticed the problem you describe

However, when did you post the question with three to five replies you did not receive?

Searching this groups messages I do not see a recent message from you


Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:04 PM, Bill Tracy wrote:

Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group??

Bill -- Yes, but it's a little complicated.

Open the Message Policies tab in your group settings. There's a checkbox in there that says "Allow Members to Download Archive." Check that box and click Update Group.

Having done so, the Messages page in your group will now have an "Export Group Data" button at the top. Members can click on that to receive all the messages as a ZIP archive. These messages are in mbox format (Unix mailbox) and may be opened with any mail reader that can handle that format. Apple Mail, Windows 10 Mail and Thunderbird (with the importexporttools add-on) have all been reported to work.

See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/working-with-group-messages/downloading-a-group-s-message-archive?for more details.

Regards,
Bruce

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Bill,

>>>?Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group?

Not as far as I know, but you can do it in a roundabout way using email forwarding; this should work but I did not test it.

1. Create a generic/utility account on gmail or wherever and name it accordingly, maybe ProspectiveMembers@... r somethign like that so it can be obvious to the receivers.
2. Subscribe it to the group, setting it to Single-All delivery.
3. Set it to forward any incoming email (from only the group), to the prospective members as BCC, with you as the TO field.
4. They will then receive the group emails (which are addressed to?ProspectiveMembers@...), so if one of them replies, since their address is now on the FROM field,?it should go to group but end up in the pending queue*** since they are not members yet, so you'll be able to see their reply and do whatever you want with it. (*** you'd have to set "Allow Nonmembers to Post" to ON for this to work, if you want them to be able to reply, otherwise if they do with that setting OFF, their reply will get rejected)
5. When one of those members does join after all, or is not interested anymore, just remove their address from the forwarding list.
6. If you do this setup, also create an inbox rule to automatically delete old group messages after a certain timeframe to keep things tidy.

If you do try/tweak this and it works, please let us know how it goes.

Cheers,
Christos

If you can export the databases to Excel or Access files, or copy and paste into blank XLS/MDB documents, you could then write a quick VBA script to do it in one step.

Cheers,
Christos

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 05:04 PM, Bill Tracy wrote:

Is there a way allow future prospective members to receive the email/message trail from the group??

Emails no, message trail yes. Assuming, that is, that your group has its message archive publicly visible; if it isn't then you cannot make it visible now. Making the message archive private is a one - time decision that cannot be reversed.

Also... is your group in the publicly visible directory? If not, then prospective members are unlikely to find it.

Chris

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 12:54 PM, John Russell wrote:

I checked the Actviity Log and found no entries. Do you see entries in the Activty Log?

Yes. It shows as "edited message #xxxxx"

Just to clarify. I did not change the question as that would invalidated the votes already received.
In that case I would have to close the Poll and start again.

I don't see why that would be a problem, if you were reasonably careful. Try adding an extra space somewhere.

I only edited the information which appears before the question, just to add the deadline for voting, which I forgot when I created the Poll. It seemed the ideal way to do this was to edit the orignal message and click on Update.

There are only three fields -- the Subject line, the Poll question, and the Answers.

Changing the subject line will not cause a new message to go out. More generally, changing the subject does not do what you think it does. A subject line is a function of a topic, not a message. If you really want to do that you have to click on the Topic Properties button.?

I found a workaround, so now I will just send it to support to see if Mark knows why this did not work.

If you want to issue a bug report, ask why the subject line is an editable field on the "Edit Poll" screen when changing it doesn't really do anything.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 04:40 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:

If you know it's spam, delete the message/thread asap so it doesn't propagate and cause potential downstream problems

I think it was about spam rather than being spam itself..

Chris