First of all, merry Christmas to everyone. Well today I was presented with a surprise Christmas present. It was a text message from an owner who was a cocreator to a group here on Groups..Io end it was her idea. However, the gentleman that created the group, took somebody else's advice, and decided that the group was a joke it was no longer necessary. So he deleted it without speaking with the co-owner. Which it was her idea and his idea we found out that the group no longer existed because she could no longer pull it up in her groups list. And we both felt like that the sole owner should've spoke to one of us first before he just decided to drop it off the face of the earth. Whenever I approached him about this whole situation what he told me above is what he sent me in a text message. And this is not the first time that something like this is happened. Sometime early last year, something happened to him and he randomly decided to change my role in one of his groups without speaking to me first and mind you I did nothing absolutely nothing wrong. He just randomly changed my role. And I didn't think it was right he gave me my membership back as the sole co-owner of his group. Mind you, he was also juggling college at the time. So that was resolved now I've run into this issue. Which means I have to help her re-create the group. Which I think if I remember correctly, we have to wait a whole year before we can use the same name again. And which I don't really want to do due to the new guidelines that start on for January 18. And since none of us are nonprofits, I don't qualify for any of the discounts. The group may have only had one maybe 20 members, but we were hoping that eventually it would've grown. So does anybody have any advice as to what I should do? I have approached him and asked him, what would he feel like if I up and did something right to his group. And before anybody asks, yes it's very poor communication.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

For a family group I would strongly recommend Restricted membership. That way family members can be assured that strangers can't join the group and read the messages (unless you mistakenly let one in, but you don't have to tell your family members that).

I agree that a restricted group is best for a family group. And for a committee or other similar organizations.

Frances

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Dave,

Under the spam settings, the box for “Restricted Membership” is not
checked.

Then that is why you don't have the option to show your group's Members list to members. The concern is that any spammer could freely join your group and download all the member addresses.

For a family group I would strongly recommend Restricted membership. That way family members can be assured that strangers can't join the group and read the messages (unless you mistakenly let one in, but you don't have to tell your family members that).

I recommend Restricted membership for most any group where only people you know should be allowed to read the group's content. That can include clubs, classmates, and certainly family groups.

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char,

i followed the directions and it didn't work,, my group is our
little group ,, i get all the group mail except mine,,,

I'm not sure what directions you followed, but if it was about the Account Preferences option "I always want copies of my own emails" that is only effective for Gmail addresses, or addresses powered by Google's services.

As I replied to Herb, messages from yourself are likely being diverted or rejected by your email service.

You can check for rejections on the Recent Bounces page of your account:
/account?page=bounces

If your messages are not listed there then check your email service's web interface for the Spam folder, Junk folder, or whatever they call it. Perhaps its settings can be adjusted, or perhaps you can set up a filter to ensure that your messages are delivered to your Inbox.

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 09:45 PM, Dave B wrote:

>> Is your group a Restricted group?? Check what your Spam Control setting is in Admin, Settings.

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Under the spam settings, the box for “Restricted Membership” is not checked.?

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I think you should decide on whether or not you want or need restricted membership for your group.?

This group (GMF) is not restricted.?
The summary on the home page says:

?If this is a newer group, you might want to review the options here:
/helpcenter/gettingstarted

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 03:39 PM, Peter Cook wrote:

If a subject line includes a string preceded by the # symbol, and ending with a punctuation mark, the string will not be recognized as a hashtag.

If it's something like #test! it won't be recognized as a hashtag since they can't contain the ! character, so no bounce, no removal, and no creation.? It would have to be #test ! for it to work as you seem to expect.? I seem to remember all of that being covered in the manuals.

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 07:50 PM, chaboot wrote:

I TRIED THIS AND IT DIDN'T WORK

I am not sure whether or not this is related to not getting copies of your own emails. If so, you seem to have 2 accounts, including this one. One was started Feb 6 and one Feb 7. ?Both are set for No Mail. You do not receive email from this group. I don't know about any other group.

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I TRIED THIS AND IT DIDN'T WORK


[mod note: apparently in response to the prior reply (to Herb, #35779)]

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 04:38 PM, Dave B wrote:

Thanks everyone…but when I go to change the setting to make the member list visibility available to members, I am not allowed to choose “members” from the dropdown list. ??Only “Owners” and “All Owners, and Moderators…”

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Any reason why I can’t choose this option?

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Is your group a Restricted group?

The Help says: ?"In a restricted membership group, the group owner can choose whether to allow the members of the group to see the member list. If a Members entry appears in the left navigation on the group’s website, the owner has allowed group members to see the member list. Click the Members entry to view the list."

Check what your Spam Control setting is in Admin, Settings.

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Boosh,

Frances, I changed the setting to allow members to see the member list.?

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When one of the members went to see the list of others on the list, they could only see their own name…as below:?

In your screenshot, Fred is looking at the group's Directory, not its Members list. Those are separate pages.

The list of pages on the left in your screen shot does not include the Members list, so either it was taken before you changed the setting, or the setting didn't "take", or Fred needs to refresh his browser window. It should look like this:

The Members list is controlled in the Privacy panel of your group's Settings page. The Directory is controlled in the Features panel.

?Any ideas why they can only see their name??

Apparently no other group members have set their Profile to allow access by other members. That's a Profile setting that each member must set for themselves, the default is that only group owners/moderators can see a member's profile.

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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:03 PM, Dave B wrote:

Can I make the member list visible to members of my group, but not to the public/non-members?

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To clarify: The member list and the directory are two different things. For what you want, go to Admin > Settings > Privacy > Member List Visibility > change to "Members."

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I was a bit sloppy with language.

There is Members in Admin. ?(Members List)
And there is Directory.?
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/6114

You can allow members in your family group to see the Members List if you wish. Unusual but possible.
That wiki page says this:

If you as an Owner want members to be able to "see" every other member in the group without forcing everyone to jump through the profile hoop, you must make the member list visible. Doing so will not give Subscribers access to the underlying information, however -- only the "stuff" that appears in the main index (Display Name, Message Delivery, Email Address, and Join Date). This can only be done if you first select the Restricted method of Spam Control.

Up to you!

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 03:34 PM, Dave B wrote:

Frances, I changed the setting to allow members to see the member list.?

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When one of the members went to see the list of others on the list, they could only see their own name…as below:?

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Any ideas why they can only see their name??

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Boosh

Only those who allow other members to see their address are listed here. And if a member doesn't allow other members, they don't see any either.

See Help for more details and exact language!?
/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/viewing-the-directory?single=true

Members can allow themselves to be viewed by others (depending on the settings the owner has made) by going to the group homepage, clicking on Subscription (left), then on Group Profile, Edit Group Profile, Profile Privacy.
You can also go to your name - top right, account, Identity, and you will see all groups your belong to with that email address. You can edit the first one (general one) that has a note:?Changes made to this profile will also be made to each group profile, with the exception of those fields that you have previously customized in each group profile. To edit those customized fields please go to the specific group profile and click "edit"

Or do each group you belong to individually. Tailor it to the group.

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 02:34 PM, Dave B wrote:

When one of the members went to see the list of others on the list, they could only see their own name…as below

As it says at the top: Member Directory.? Member List is another page/link.

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Thanks will follow that discussion for any changes.?
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