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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
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Thank you for the explanation, it seems odd for the problem not to have been addressed before I was aware of the emailers own settings but thank you for that also Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/10/2021 16:34, Derek Milliner wrote:
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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:26 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Is this just a glitch (ie not copying forward the quoting text) or by designNivard -- It's by design. As Derek indicated, it is possible to include body text in a mailto: link, but that's usually restricted to short, canned text (See??, "adding body text"). Each message in a groups.io digest contains [typically] three separate reply links (e.g.: Reply to Group, Reply to Sender, Reply to Group and Sender). If each one also included the entire body text of its associated message, that's tantamount to sending 48 message bodies in each digest -- the original 12 messages to display, plus another 36 hidden within the reply links. Even without consideration of embedded images and so on, the additional server load and bandwidth necessary to make that happen does not justify doing this. Regards, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 03:26 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Is this just a glitch (ie not copying forward the quoting text) or by designNeither, as such. The links in the mail footer are 'mailto:<address>' constructs and the mail client (e.g. Thunderbird) doesn't have a context for that - it doesn't associate clicking the link in a mail message with the text of the mail message itself. It uses the same code path as for a mailto link from any other application on your device. This is different to clicking the Reply button in the mail client. It *would* be possible for the mailto link to include text in the message, GIO would have to add a 'body' parameter to the link; that is, a link currently would look like this: whereas it would need to look like this to have message text included: mailto:[email protected]?subject='Message?subject'&body='This is the text of the message that's being replied to'
In terms of the 'normal' email client Reply, whether or not the original message is included is an application preference setting. This from the apple support site vis. Mac mail: If you prefer to always omit the original message from your replies, choose Mail?> Preferences, click Composing, then deselect ¡°Quote the text of the original message¡±. The inference being of course that you select to include the message. Thunderbird also has the option to include or not the original message; Account Settings/Composition & Addressing/Automatically quote the original message?Both Mac and Thunderbird will include selected text from a message in a reply, same as the Groups.io Web interface.? Hope that helps! Derek in Bristol UK |
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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
Thanks for yours Bruce
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Is this just a glitch (ie not copying forward the quoting text) or by design As I have said to Duane I don't use those links usually Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Nivard -- Footer links in a group email will populate only the Subject: and To: fields of the outgoing reply. They do not copy the current message into the editor for quoting purposes. |
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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
Thanks for yours Duane
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As I never use those links I wasn't sure if it affected all emailers Previously when I have tested using the links in the footer using Thunderbird it has opened up a blank email and hung, no subject, address or quoted text However something has changed since I tested it last, as now in Thunderbird, it creates a new mail with address & subject line but no quoted text The reason for my asking is I have a digest user, who has used reply and then deleted the <[email protected]> and entered the group address, leaving a **digest**** subject line which obviously creates a new thread, and on another occasion has replied to the wrong thread as they copied the wrong subject line I have obviously made them aware of the problem and hopefully they will adhere to my rules but wanted to make sure it wasn't another factor such as a Mac or using Mail Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/10/2021 14:44, Duane wrote:
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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 09:24 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
I have a digest user who has a Mac and using Mail, who says they cannot use "Reply to Group" from the digestNivard -- Footer links in a group email will populate only the Subject: and To: fields of the outgoing reply. They do not copy the current message into the editor for quoting purposes. This behavior is not unique to a Mac, nor is it specific to receiving a digest. It is a limitation of the footer links.? Regards, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 08:24 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
They say that they cannot use "Reply to Group"Sounds normal to me.? Using the reply links within the message just opens the person's email program.? If they want to quote something, they have to copy/paste. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Using "Reply to Group" from a digest by a Mac user
I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this problem
I have a digest user who has a Mac and using Mail, who says they cannot use "Reply to Group" from the digest They say that they cannot use "Reply to Group" "as the entire message I¡¯m replying to, disappears, and all I get is an empty email" Is this a known Mac problem? a Mail issue or something else? I know in Thunderbird if you use the Reply to Group it creates a reply and a blank email (it used to create just a blank email) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) |
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Re: Annotating member lists
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 01:13 PM, Frances wrote:
You could change the Display Name./helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-members/adding-or-updating-members-display-names Frances ? -- Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki. ? |
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Re: Annotating member lists
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 01:03 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Is there a way to denote such a member such as with an asterisk or something in the member list (we don't use the directory, the member list is open to the entire group).You could change the Display Name. Frances ? -- Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki. ? |
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Re: Billing notificaiton
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 03:03 AM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
This doesn't sound correct.It may not have sounded correct, but it was...until yesterday. See?? Regards, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Is there a free groups.io option for groups that have more than 100 members? 500 members?
Andi, Is there a free option for groups with more than 100 members? 500 members? As Duane said, no. If you do not want to pay the $20/month or $220/year for a premium group yourself, you can ask your group members to sponsor your group: see Using the sponsorship feature in the Help Center. With this option you don't need to handle any of the payments, members pay
whatever they wish (minimum $5)
to Groups.io directly and their payments are credited to your group. When payment is due the credited payments apply first, and roll over if they exceed the needed payment. Shal -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Billing notificaiton
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý>>> Of course, using Sponsorship removes the need for someone to pay. I second Duane's suggestion as this also makes it to where technically you don't have to have a designated payor (per se) with a credit card saved in the system and who has to make the payment.? That's what I've done, enabled Sponsorship, then transferred all the paypal funds from the operating account we originally had setup (and which I had to maintain) in there, and removed the stored credit card from my account.? Any group member can put in there as much as they want, and now with the change Mark made, others will also be notified so there is no danger of the group getting downgraded, unless of course if no one puts in enough to cover the yearly fees. You can use a debit/credit card or paypal to add to the
sponsorship fund, and you don't have anymore to have that
debit/credit card stored so if you're not already using it, I'd
suggest to enable it and use it. Cheers,
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Re: Is there a free groups.io option for groups that have more than 100 members? 500 members?
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 09:07 PM, Andrea McGhee wrote:
Is there a free groups.io option for groups with more than 100 members? 500 members?No.? All that changed on Feb 8, 2021.? The Pricing page has the current information. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: Billing notificaiton
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 03:13 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
But then the alernate owner is not set up to pay groups.io which may be another issue.It shouldn't be.? Changing the payor is pretty easy.? It can be done at any time, but most groups want to have one person responsible.? Of course, using Sponsorship removes the need for someone to pay. BTW, Mark has already to the policy to minimize the problem. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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