In Admin, Preferences, Settings, Features, Files, Permissions, change it to your choice.

Frances

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Hi group managers,

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I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to change file access permissions without changing a members role. Our issue is that we would like everyone in our group to have full access (edit, delete, etc) to any file stored in our group, but we don't want to make everyone admins to do that since we still want to keep our administration for the rest of the group to a core group of folks. Looking at file settings there aren't many options, so I'm guessing this isn't possible, but figured I'd ask here to see if there might be a good workaround.

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Thanks!

On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 01:30 PM, Maria McGrath wrote:

Is it? possible to allow new members to only see and have access to new messages after they join

For a group used by a Board or committee, you can delete old messages if they are no longer necessary.

And you can download the message archive for future reference.?

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It would be useful to be available to move the message archive to a subgroup where you can restrict the access. However that is not possible at this point.

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Frances

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Is it? possible to allow new members to only see and have access to new messages after they join?

Currently new members who join have access to the history of messages and I would like to limit it to only new messages.

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Thanks in advance.

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Thx for that in-depth treatise! ?I didn't expect that Mark had “personalized” the badge/new msg count experience. ?

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I did some testing and the badge/count isn't related to messages actually emailed by g.io/received by members — the counter is related to only messages posted (even if they are not sent back out to members.)

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You solved my mistemembering — I was thinking of seeing counters, but it was on the Groups page (my default is the Feed page.)

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Do you/Bruce see any reason why the same counter/dots on the Groups and Topics pages, couldn't simarily be placed on the Feed page?

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I will put that question/#suggestion on Beta. ?

Anyone wanting to see that happen please give it some bumps!

Quarantine?in his context refers to DMARC processing, and is not related to any actions taken by the recipient. Pretty much every ISP implements DMARC, which requires a reverse IP lookup of the sender’s email address to match the IP address in the originating message header. The actions taken by the ISP are Report, Quarantine, or Block.?

As I mentioned when I started this thread, my friend gets the posts with the munged sender addresses (that get converted to groups.io) trapped in quarantine.? I wouldn't advise him to whitelist groups.io as a whole.

Since you used the word "quarantine" in that reply, it sounds like he may be using a 3rd party anti-spam software, and it's set up too restrictive? Could he possibly have accidentally created a rule/filter that causes this? Anyway, many email clients have filters, so he can setup a filter that if the From: field contains "via groups.io" don't send it to spam, so unless he is at the complete mercy of an ISP's anti-spam service which he cannot control whatsoever, he should be able to setup the same filter/rule either in his email client or anti-spam app. He can also try setting additional filters that depend on the list name and whitelist the whole group.

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Cheers,

Christos

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My understanding of this (or perhaps more accurately, my lack of understanding) is as follows.

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Groups.io does not maintain a separate "read/unread status" for each message/member combination. As the number of messages and members grow, that would quickly get out of hand. For the most part, message numbers continually increase, but members come and go. The data structure necessary to keep track would have to be in the form of some kind of linked list; which requires a lot of system resources to build and maintain.

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In looking at the API docs and a JSON export - if that information is being stored, it's totally internal, and there is no way to gain access to it. The app may be unique inasmuch as such information could be stored locally on each member's device. Somehow, though, I doubt it. Not enough bang for the buck.

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Groups.io does keep track the the "most recent" message in each group that has been sent to you via email. Given that each member has a different time zone and may be muting/following different things, this is necessary to determine when to send a digest (and to build a digest email properly). To the extent that such information may be used in the app to display a number of some kind, I don't know.

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As has been discussed in the past, web browsers may render a link to an unread message in a different color simply because that link hasn't been visited yet (i.e.: the URL is not in your browser history). But your browser is doing that, not groups.io.

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I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't. For a definitive explanation, Mark is (of course) the source to go to. There was a lot of talk about this in 2019 and I really think he took the "easy way." See? ?

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Bruce

On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 05:08 PM, Cal wrote:

As I mentioned when I started this thread, my friend gets the posts with the munged sender addresses (that get converted to groups.io) trapped in quarantine.?

You seem to be assuming that a munged address is the cause. Virtually every message I get from Groups.io has a munged address and none of them end up in my spam/junk folder. Providing the messages in you friend's quarantine are moved to their inbox, the spam filters should learn over time (assuming they're half decent).

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 03:50 PM, KWKloeber wrote:

(I have Notifications for the App turned ON, so) I see a “Badge count” (Apple-speak; dunno what Droid calls it) that I have say, 20 new messages. ?

This is what I have and I also see a badge count on my Android phone. I rarely use the feed page but on the occasions that I do, I don't ever recall seeing an indication of unread messages.

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On the Groups page, I get a counter for the number of unread messages and when I open that group (my default is Topics view), I get a blue dot next to the topics with unread messages.? One the niggles I have is that if you just go back to the Groups page without actually opening any of the unread messages, the badge count is removed and so are the blue dots if you go back into the group. It's also the case that if you read one message, the blue dots are removed from all others when you go back to the list.? Overall, it's not a very good system.?? Your statement about having to open a group to see if there are any unread messages may be true if you are starting from the Feed page but that is not the case from the Groups page as a badge counter against the group means there are unread messages.

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Andy

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Hey Andy

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Well yes and no. ?I misspoke about the page names in one sentence of my OP so trstating it (below) hopefully clears up my question:

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 09:17 AM, Cal wrote:

spam quarantine for posts from members

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I don't recall any member messages being called spam or quarantined, only non-member.

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 10:16 AM, KWKloeber wrote:

Didn't the Groups view previously display an indicator (bullet?) on the Group(s) that have unread messages? ?

Are you thinking of the message counts and blue dots that appear next to topics in the app?

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Didn't the Groups view previously display an indicator (bullet?) on the Group(s) that have unread messages? ?

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Each group Feed view does, but it requires opening up each Group to see if there are unread messages. ?Kinda inefficient/PITA to do that and I **thoughr** I recalled that my Groups page indicated which Group(s) had ?new posts waiting.?

Am I misremembering ?about that?

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On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 07:23 PM, lowerbp2 wrote:

I have a groups question. ?Our group was moved from Yahoo early on in Groups existance and we have archived about 7 5,ooo emails since 2002 from that group.

I see a group that you are affiliated with in Groups.io

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However that shows 199 Members
974 Topics
Started on 2020-10-16

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It seems that you didn't move the Yahoo message archive to this group. If your message archive was moved to Groups.io to the one I found in Groups.io, the message archive would go much further back.?

Can you please clarify? Perhaps you had it downloaded and have stored? If so, what format, how did you download it?

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On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 07:23 PM, lowerbp2 wrote:

For some time I have hoped that there was a way to summarize these emails and extract information from our ~1,300 patients who have visited/emailed us to say extract the most common complaint, age onset etc out of these emails. This is probably the largest group of patient with this disease in the world.

Just to be clear, the emails were moved from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io, correct? (Not to Google Groups)

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And did group members submit their common complaint, age onset, etc. in a preset format? Or just in the usual "chatty" email format?

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Hope someone can help with this.

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