J,

I'm not referring to quoted matter, and after reporting this bug to
Mark, he confirmed it and gave me the workaround (insert blank lines
around the text).

Interesting. I didn't need to do that in my test earlier or just now. Maybe it is already fixed?

Line 1
Line 2
Line 3

Put the cursor in line 2 (or select that whole line) and click Blockquote. I get:

Line 1

Line 2

Line 3

And I do NOT expect to have to hit "return" twice to get a blank
line! As you pointed out, this is the opposite of what word
processors do (Typewriter? Are you kidding?

How about any software or web site other than a word processor?
Say Gmail.
Say Yahoo Mail.
Say Thunderbird.
Say Yahoo Groups.

Where else but in a word processor does a single Enter cause a paragraph break? I've run into a few, but far and away most ordinary text entry forms I've used treat Enter as a line break.

Shal

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 01:32 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

I'm not having that problem with text I entered, but it definitely has issues with text that came from elsewhere (quoted matter) ....There's no accounting for taste. ;-)

I'm not referring to quoted matter, and after reporting this bug to Mark, he confirmed it and gave me the workaround (insert blank lines around the text). And I do NOT expect to have to hit "return" twice to get a blank line! As you pointed out, this is the opposite of what word processors do (Typewriter? Are you kidding? Yes, I suppose there IS no accounting for taste.:) And yes, I'm on safari when this happens. I haven't tried yet using firefox. Mark said he was using chrome.

J

In #1838 J_Catlady wrote:

Shal, that issue with the Enter key causes problems elsewhere. For
example, you can't block quote without block quoting the entire draft
unless the place where you want to insert the text has a blank line
before and after it.

I'm not having that problem with text I entered, but it definitely has issues with text that came from elsewhere (quoted matter). It seems that if the original material used HTML paragraph tags then this editor tends to put newlines inside the paragraphs rather than between them. And then the blockquote applies to the entire span of the paragraph.

Another thing it does is it tends to eat single newlines.

Taking a three-line
paragraph and crunching
it into one line.

If you select the center line, or have the cursor in the center line, then Blockquote will make just that line a quote - as expected. But...

If you select all three of those lines and click Blockquote you get:

Taking a three-lineparagraph and crunchingit into one line.

Re-wrapping it is surprising; omitting the whitespace is just wrong.

And to insert the blank line, you actually have to hit "return"
twice, not once.

That, to me, is the desired and expected behavior. I want Enter to work in the more typewriter fashion. A line break, not a paragraph break. I recognize that this is the opposite of what word processors like Word do.

The normal "undo edit" key in a browser doesn't work, and you instead
have to click on the advanced toolbar and use the "undo" arrow from
there.

I haven't run into that problem. Ctrl+Z has always worked fine for me. In Firefox. Maybe it is a browser issue.

There's an issue with fonts that I haven't been able to isolate yet.

Mark may have fixed that today, if it is the same issue. I'd noticed that font selection would show in the editor, and in the message sent by email, but not on site.

I would switch back to the old editor in a heartbeat.

There's no accounting for taste. ;-)

Shal

Shal, that issue with the Enter key causes problems elsewhere. For example, you can't block quote without block quoting the entire draft unless the place where you want to insert the text has a blank line before and after it. And to insert the blank line, you actually have to hit "return" twice, not once. The normal "undo edit" key in a browser doesn't work, and you instead have to click on the advanced toolbar and use the "undo" arrow from there. There's an issue with fonts that I haven't been able to isolate yet. And probably more. I would switch back to the old editor in a heartbeat.

I'll try to find time to add these to the wiki, or you can feel free to do it.

J

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:05 am, Douglas Swearingen wrote:

The only place I am having this problem is typing to send an email through Groups.io.

But it happens when you are typing an email, not when you are on the groups.io site? It's implausible that your email program recognizes that you are planning to send a message to groups.io and screws up while you're typing then and only then, and not with all your emails. Is that what you're saying? ?

J

J,

p.s. I do wonder if it's a problem with the new editor, which I find very user-unfriendly and weird in general, if not downright buggy.

If you can describe a weirdness or quirk please add it to GMF's wiki page Message composition tips and tricks.

Myself I'm much happier with the new editor.? A large part of that is because the Enter key is now a single line break rather than a paragraph break. But I also like the advanced toolbar and the ability to set fonts separately from format.

Has anyone seen this problem before the new editor went live?

I haven't noticed it in the new editor or old. But I don't often compose on site so if there is a time-of-day factor I might not be hitting "rush hour". Too, I have a pretty fast cable-modem connection so if round-trip time is a factor I'll probably not notice that either.

Shal

p.s. I do wonder if it's a problem with the new editor, which I find very user-unfriendly and weird in general, if not downright buggy. Has anyone seen this problem before the new editor went live?

J

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 05:12 am, Douglas Swearingen wrote:

I just thought it might have been my keyboard or computer, but I guess not..

?It happened to me a couple of years ago, but with everything I typed, including emails, not just groups.io. It did turn out to be my computer (and not the keyboard). I don't remember the details but at first I thought it was software-related. I did end up having to buy a new computer. So I was assuming it was just your computer.

J

Scott, is this when writing on the group home (as I am now) or email? Likely the first. I am not seeing any trouble. At least not now and I don't recall a problem.

A further text: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. ?No problem.

Frances

I see it now and then, but usually just for a short time. I'm pretty sure it depends on network delays between your computer and the site. A good test for me is about 30 minutes after school lets out, when all the kids get on the internet, as things tend to get real slow. Now, at 4:00 in the morning, things zip along nicely! I'm still on a limited bandwidth connection, so have gotten used to a lot of things like that.

Duane

Not sure if I just report this as a bug or not?so I thought I'd come here and ask if this is happening to anyone else first.

When I start a new post (or when I start a reply to someone else's post) - everything is fine. I type and it appears immediately. However within ONE sentence, whatever I'm typing begins to delay more and more until I am experiencing a several second delay.

As an example:? The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

By the time I had pressed all the keys for that sentence, only "The quick b" has appeared.?

Scott

Bob,

... then not knowing I went into messages to send a message as a test
it said you had to wait till it was accepted,

I think the only problem is that the weekend got in the way.

Because some spammers were abusing Groups.io the ability to have a new group show up in the group directory now requires approval by Groups.io.

I didn't know, but it is possible, that the ability to post messages is also held until the new group is approved. If this is the case, it now being Monday your problem may resolve itself.


The other thing to watch for is that your test message may be held awaiting approval from a group moderator (you).

Go to the group's Settings page and in the Spam Control set of options, see if your group has checked either "Moderated" or "New Users Moderated". If either of those are checked they would apply to your own messages even though you are the group owner.

The button to open the Settings page is in the Admin group - click on Admin to open that up to show you the group administrative controls.

In the Admin group is also the Pending page - where you'll likely find your test message awaiting your approval.

Shal

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Bob, you need to give more details.

At what point were you stymied?
Are you trying to start a brand new group or transfer an existing group from Yahoo or GoogleGroups?
What error message do you receive?
Is it because the name isn't unique?
Perhaps you actually successfully created a group, and received an email which landed in your junk mail, and then you can't use that name again?
Details will help people help you!

Cheers,
Frances