however in yahoogroups, i was able to set the way that the subject line name of my group appeared¡in this way, people can view the real subject, rather than only the group name ? example: group name is? RichmondHillAnnouncements but in the group emails, the subject line reads (RHAnnounce) ? Is there such a setting in IO?? Thanks! ? Ruthie Levi ?
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Re: unsubscribe form message
You can customize the message for leaving a group. I think this is in a different context. Have to check when I get back to my computer. Shal will know.
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On Dec 26, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Ruth Levi < ruthlevi@...> wrote: is there a way to customize this unsubscribe message? thanks, all! just initiated my group transfer for my first group(1000 members)-good luck to me! ? ¡°±á±ð±ô±ô´Ç, ? We have received a request to unsubscribe you from the xyzname group. If this is correct, please just reply to this email and you will be unsubscribed promptly. ? If you did not request this, please accept our apologies and ignore this message.¡± ? Ruthie Levi ?
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Nope.? Good luck with your new group!
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On Dec 26, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Ruth Levi < ruthlevi@...> wrote: is there a way to customize this unsubscribe message? thanks, all! just initiated my group transfer for my first group(1000 members)-good luck to me! ? ¡°±á±ð±ô±ô´Ç, ? We have received a request to unsubscribe you from the xyzname group. If this is correct, please just reply to this email and you will be unsubscribed promptly. ? If you did not request this, please accept our apologies and ignore this message.¡± ? Ruthie Levi ?
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is there a way to customize this unsubscribe message? thanks, all! just initiated my group transfer for my first group(1000 members)-good luck to me! ? ¡°±á±ð±ô±ô´Ç, ? We have received a request to unsubscribe you from the xyzname Groups.io group. If this is correct, please just reply to this email and you will be unsubscribed promptly. ? If you did not request this, please accept our apologies and ignore this message.¡± ? Ruthie Levi ?
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Click "administration", "settings", "cover photo". Then "choose file".
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On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:46 PM, jcbluz via Groups.Io <jcbluz@...> wrote: How can I change the groups header elephant photo?? I don't see an option and the supplied photo doesn't match my music group theme and needs to be replaced.? Please advise.
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Admin --> Settings --> Cover Photo. J
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 7:46 PM, jcbluz via Groups.Io <jcbluz@...> wrote: How can I change the groups header elephant photo?? I don't see an option and the supplied photo doesn't match my music group theme and needs to be replaced.? Please advise.
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How can I change the groups header elephant photo?? I don't see an option and the supplied photo doesn't match my music group theme and needs to be replaced.? Please advise.
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Re: Automatic unsubscription ?
I found that with Roadrunner email, it was best to turn off the ISP-level spam filter and do my filtering in my email client. You may not even know it is turned on (it's on by default) and may be losing some important email that way (I was, and so was a friend of mine who had the same issue with the same ISP). Once it's turned off, what they do is append "SPAM:" in front of the subject line for apparent SPAM (even when the spam filter is turned off) and it still goes to my inbox. Most of the time it's not SPAM at all, but I filter it visually since that word stands out for me and I check those first. When I then delete them in my email client program, it doesn't have any effect like deleting them in the ISP SPAM folder for my account. This might not be true with GMAIL and other webmail that integrates with email clients like Mozilla Thunderbird and the more refined version of it that's called PostBox (not free like Thunderbird is). In Postbox, I just mark the email that gets mislabeled by GMail as SPAM as read and leave it there unless I need it sorted into my inbox or another folder. Donald On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:30:20 -0800, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Also, as J noted, if your email service automatically sorts some
messages to your Spam folder (as most do) never allow any Groups.io
messages to linger there. Mark them "not spam" before filing or deleting
them. This implies a need to check your spam folder more often than the
automatic deletion interval.
The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it. --George Orwell
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Jonathan, To me this seems like a poor way to handle this issue, but it is a
complex topic and I'm not sure what would be a good solution. I agree with J about leaving this part out. It would be fine in discussion, but I'm not sure you want this message to start that discussion. As you note, it is a thorny subject and discussed at length in beta@. The short of it is Mark feels that certain of the email services have left him no other option to avoid having messages from Groups.io more likely sent to spam, affecting all users of that service not just this one member. Things may indeed improve in the future, if the "one-click" unsubscribe proposal is adopted by many email services, and implemented well by them. But until then the best advice is to never mark a Groups.io message as spam, even if it is - you'll get unsubscribed either way. Also, as J noted, if your email service automatically sorts some messages to your Spam folder (as most do) never allow any Groups.io messages to linger there. Mark them "not spam" before filing or deleting them. This implies a need to check your spam folder more often than the automatic deletion interval. Instead take any spam messages up with the admins of that group. They may already know, but the likely case is that they'll have to do something to prevent more spam being sent through their group. Shal
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Re: three yahoo-email members started bouncing today
Thanks, Dave. I¡¯ll mention in beta that three people have reported this.
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On Dec 25, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Dave Wade < dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
I can see e-mail to yahoo bouncing ¡°451 4.3.2 Internal server error¡±
Dave
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Re: Automatic unsubscription ?
This seems a good addition from the draft. Suggesting what they can do if they wish to delete a post from their email is a good thing.
¡®If you don't wish to read a particular topic just delete the messages or use the "Mute This Topic" link at the bottom of the message. ¡®
Frances
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Re: three yahoo-email members started bouncing today
Actually I now see that Rachel was responding to Jonathan, not to me. Just to clarify: Rachel, are you seeing bouncing members NOW who are using yahoo email addresses? Thanks.
J
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On Dec 25, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Rachel via Groups.Io <rachelfran@...> wrote:
Same happened to me
On Dec 25, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:
I can't say that I have seen a sudden increase in Yahoo addresses bouncing. However, one thing I did notice is when I transferred several lists from Yahoo to Groups.io earlier this month was the number of Yahoo addresses that were immediately bounced. The error messages were something like "doesn't have a Yahoo account." Thinking back it seems like I hadn't seen ANY bouncing addresses in my Yahoo groups for some time. It's like the bounce reporting process at Yahoo wasn't working. There were other email providers as well, but you would think that Yahoo would at least know when it's own addresses were no longer viable. The numbers weren't huge, but having them come all at once was a bit of a surprise.
Jonathan
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Re: three yahoo-email members started bouncing today
Thanks. I¡¯ll post about this in beta in Mark¡¯s ¡®failed delivery¡¯ thread.
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On Dec 25, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Rachel via Groups.Io <rachelfran@...> wrote:
Same happened to me
On Dec 25, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:
I can't say that I have seen a sudden increase in Yahoo addresses bouncing. However, one thing I did notice is when I transferred several lists from Yahoo to Groups.io earlier this month was the number of Yahoo addresses that were immediately bounced. The error messages were something like "doesn't have a Yahoo account." Thinking back it seems like I hadn't seen ANY bouncing addresses in my Yahoo groups for some time. It's like the bounce reporting process at Yahoo wasn't working. There were other email providers as well, but you would think that Yahoo would at least know when it's own addresses were no longer viable. The numbers weren't huge, but having them come all at once was a bit of a surprise.
Jonathan
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Re: three yahoo-email members started bouncing today
I can see e-mail to yahoo bouncing ¡°451 4.3.2 Internal server error¡±
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] three yahoo-email members started bouncing today
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Thanks. I know more than I¡¯d ever want to know about bounce handling. I¡¯m just asking here whether other group owners now have a sudden spate of bouncing by yahoo email.
J
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Same happened to me
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On Dec 25, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:
I can't say that I have seen a sudden increase in Yahoo addresses bouncing. However, one thing I did notice is when I transferred several lists from Yahoo to Groups.io earlier this month was the number of Yahoo addresses that were immediately bounced. The error messages were something like "doesn't have a Yahoo account." Thinking back it seems like I hadn't seen ANY bouncing addresses in my Yahoo groups for some time. It's like the bounce reporting process at Yahoo wasn't working. There were other email providers as well, but you would think that Yahoo would at least know when it's own addresses were no longer viable. The numbers weren't huge, but having them come all at once was a bit of a surprise.
Jonathan
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Re: Automatic unsubscription ?
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 09:49 am, Jonathan Sivier wrote:
To me this seems like a poor way to handle this issue,
Since this is a draft, personally I'd delete that because you don't know what the alternatives are, it's likely to cause more flaming about the issue, etc. Also, this part
until it does don't mark email as spam unless it really is.
neglects to mention that often (even, perhaps, most often), the message is marked as spam without the user's knowledge. I think you should mention that it might be done without their knowledge. ? -- J
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Re: three yahoo-email members started bouncing today
I can't say that I have seen a sudden increase in Yahoo addresses bouncing. However, one thing I did notice is when I transferred several lists from Yahoo to Groups.io earlier this month was the number of Yahoo addresses that were immediately bounced. The error messages were something like "doesn't have a Yahoo account." Thinking back it seems like I hadn't seen ANY bouncing addresses in my Yahoo groups for some time. It's like the bounce reporting process at Yahoo wasn't working. There were other email providers as well, but you would think that Yahoo would at least know when it's own addresses were no longer viable. The numbers weren't huge, but having them come all at once was a bit of a surprise.
Jonathan
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On 12/25/2017 9:09 AM, J_Catlady wrote: Thanks. I know more than I¡¯d ever want to know about bounce handling. I¡¯m just asking here whether other group owners now have a sudden spate of bouncing by yahoo email.
J
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Re: Automatic unsubscription ?
Here is a first draft of a message dealing with the spam issue.
Spam email is a big issue these days and list servers like Groups.io work hard to avoid being identified as a source of spam. Be aware that if you mark an email message from the group as spam your email program may report this back to your ISP. They in turn send a report to Groups.io, who may automatically unsubscribe you from the list. You will then be sent a message to allow you to resubscribe if you wish. To me this seems like a poor way to handle this issue, but it is a complex topic and I'm not sure what would be a good solution. This policy may change at some point, but until it does don't mark email as spam unless it really is. If you don't wish to read a particular topic just delete the messages or use the "Mute This Topic" link at the bottom of the message. I suppose no real harm will be done if you then resubscribe right away, but it may be annoying and you may wonder what is going on.
Jonathan
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On 12/25/2017 9:47 AM, Toby Kraft wrote: J, could you post an example of what you post in the welcome or monthly letter?? so we can see a succinct explanation of the issue and warning?
Thanks!
Toby
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Toby, Sure, see below. I actually no longer include it in the welcome letter, but I have a set of wiki pages that I call "tips" and which I rotate in and out of the sticky wiki. The one on the spam fiasco is below. When I find it necessary to post this info directly to the group in a message, I usually add something facetious regarding the lack of technical details ("don't even ask" or something like that;). Here's the wiki tip page:
TIP: Marking a Message "Spam" Might Automatically Remove You From the Group. If you mark a message from this group (or any groups.io group) as spam, either intentionally or accidentally via your email's spam filter, the system may automatically remove you from the group. Check your spam folder regularly, and never delete a groups.io message directly from your spam folder (move it to your inbox first). If you are removed, check your inbox for a resubscribe link.
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J, could you post an example of what you post in the welcome or monthly letter?? so we can see a succinct explanation of the issue and warning?
Thanks!
Toby
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