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Re: Groups.io site updates Export Function

 

If it were me, I'd try an export, then unzip it to see exactly what it contains. It would probably be those individual files that would be used to upload to another site.

Duane
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Re: Maintenance of photos

 

All of these ideas have been presented on the beta group (the official suggestion box for the site) and most are on the TODO list. While many of us may agree with them, there's nothing we can do because all members here are site users like you.

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Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

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> We also are not putting a link to the Groups.IO message page on our

> site which may satisfy the Board that it's integrated.

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"now"?

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In any case, I'm by no means a WP expert, but you can also have linkage

from the group's home page back to the WP blog using the embedding tools

WP provides. For example:

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Presumably the same thing would work on a group Wiki page, and possibly

in a message or even the Guidelines.

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Re: Groups.io site updates Export Function

 

NEW: You can now export all parts of your group, including chats,
> files, photos, wikis and calendar events.

I think this is a great improvement, and should address the concerns some people have had about the viability of Groups.io. I'm going to use this function, as it will be more inclusive than the backups I've made.
I have one question about this function though. In the unlikely event that Groups.io closed down, or a group owner decided to move to another site, how would this zip file of the group be utilized on another site to make a new group? Do other sites that have groups have a Import Your Group Via Zip File function?

Don
Maintenance of photos

 

It would be nice if group owners could see a list of photos sorted by size for the purpose of? deleting and or reformatting
the photos and re uploading them after they have been converted to a smaller size.? ? Optionally a sort by album name
would be helpful as well.? ? ?In any list sorted by size, it would be helpful for there to be an indicator of what album the
image was in and also the specific file size.
Re: Poll results

 

Yes, I know anyone can log in to see the poll results.? The results need to be sent to an organization that our group is a member of.? We had to poll our group in order to present the results to the parent organization regarding changes in some rules.? We might have to use something like Survey Monkey if they won't take our word for the results.? Thank you.
Re: Poll results

 

You could just send a link to the actual poll message, but then everyone would need to log in, if they're not already and the messages are private, to see the results. I don't really see a problem with either of the suggested methods because anyone could always compare it to the actual poll post results online.

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Re: Poll results

 

Thank you for the suggestions.? Both of these methods are vulnerable to "tampering" by the person who does it.? I need a method that no one can say the results had been altered.?
Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

Dan,

Is there a Beta (as in pre-production testing) System or was this
outage on the production system?
There is no separate Beta system.

There is a group by that name, the name chosen when the entire site was considered to be in beta test. I'm not 100% sure it isn't still.

If the latter, why was the outage notice posted in a Beta Group and
not sent to this group (maybe even as a special notice)?
Because this group is not owned by Groups.io, it is owned by me. Nor are there even (to my knowledge) any Groups.io employees reading this group.

Also, as has been mentioned elsewhere, the roughly 850 members of this group likely represent only a small fraction of all the group owners and moderators; there being roughly 6800 listed Groups.io groups, plus an unknown number of unlisted ones.

I'm not defending having posted the notice in solely beta (that has an even smaller membership than this group), but that notice was also posted as a banner on Groups.io web pages for a period of time before the outage began. So at least those actively using the site would likely have seen that before the site went offline.

Those using the service by email might or might not have noticed the outage. Although we get used to near-instantaneous email delivery, email as an infrastructure does not carry any timeliness guarantees.

Shal
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Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

The last two change logs:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: You can now export all parts of your group, including chats,
files, photos, wikis and calendar events.
A long-awaited feature to provide moderators the ability to backup the group's content against any future inability to use Groups.io, or desire to move the group to another platform.

Note: there's currently a bug if the archive is too large. Wait for it to be corrected early next week.



CHANGE: Increased the seriousness of the maintenance page.
Apparently the former page was overly informal, causing some users to wonder if they'd actually connected to Groups.io or if the site had been hacked.


CHANGE: When sending a message to a member and BCC All is checked, we
previously would not send the message to a moderator that didn't
have the pending message notification enabled. We now always send
the message to all moderators.
Corrects a confusion that the feature was not working for some groups.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

CHANGE: Wording tweaks on event notification emails re: RSVPs.
SYSADMIN: Upgraded Elasticsearch software.
SYSADMIN: Reconfigured some machines to avoid future downtime.
BUGFIX: #cal-invite messages to all day events had the end date be one
day earlier in the attached ICS file.
CHANGE: The message sent to members after a group is moved from Yahoo
is now from the +owner address, instead of the group address, to
prevent inadvertent group replies.
CHANGE: Tweaked the delete group page to make it more explicit which
group you're about to delete.
INTERNAL: Made yahoo group crawler more resilient to Yahoo errors.
CHANGE: The member not confirmed 'NC' badge is now orchid color
instead of light blue.
BUGFIX: Keep formatting for github commit messages.
INTERNAL: Optimizations for group transfers.
BUGFIX: Viewing video attachments didn't work.
BUGFIX: Fix updating the time for repeating events.
CHANGE: Fix for change in Yahoo's login process.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: Automated email to members who put in a join request, suddenly not working

 

Steve,

Ok, this is frustrating. When a member joins, he's automatically sent a questionnaire.? In the past few days, that feature has stopped working, we've never had an issue before.
Have a look in the pending member's Email Delivery History. It may show the disposition of the Pending Subscription notification, if nothing else has been sent since.

Have a look in the Member Notices tab of your group's Settings page and verify that you have one Pending Subscription notice marked "Active". If not, the question changes to who/what changed or deleted the notice. And that question you may be able answer in the group's activity logs.

Otherwise, what is your basis for believing that the Pending Subscription notification hasn't been sent? Have you eliminated other reasons that the pending member might not have seen the notice (such as it being delivered to his/her spam folder)?

Shal


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Re: Automated email to members who put in a join request, suddenly not working

Julie McMurry
 

What platform were you using for the questionnaire? Having a questionnaire step before they're even routed to the moderators would be amazing. Having those responses be editable over time by the user and having the fields be editable over time by the moderators would make groups.io a truly killer app. I've warmed to it primarily because the alternatives are increasingly worse.
Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

 

Dan,

I contacted Wilson, the owner of the other group transfer service, to
find out more. If I find out anything interesting, I'll post it here.

Donald

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:51:09 -0700, "Dan Hartford"
<danhartfordphoto@...> wrote:

Donald,

Thank you for your detailed reply. I'll have to look through it in detail.
We already have our WP site so are already paying for hosting (BlueHost).
We're just looking for better integration than we had with Yahoo. We
already have one step in that direction with the ability to Direct Add new
members to IO when they join the club. It's manual but simple and we don't
have to get into that Invite, lost invitation, invite again, accept but
doesn't' put in real name, etc. cycle. We also are not putting a link to
the Groups.IO message page on our site which may satisfy the Board that it's
integrated.

But you also provided some things to think about - at least in terms of 2nd
part.

Thanks -- Dan

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Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

 

Dan,

We also are not putting a link to the Groups.IO message page on our
site which may satisfy the Board that it's integrated.
"now"?

In any case, I'm by no means a WP expert, but you can also have linkage from the group's home page back to the WP blog using the embedding tools WP provides. For example:


Presumably the same thing would work on a group Wiki page, and possibly in a message or even the Guidelines.

Shal


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Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

Dan Hartford
 

Donald,

Thank you for your detailed reply. I'll have to look through it in detail.
We already have our WP site so are already paying for hosting (BlueHost).
We're just looking for better integration than we had with Yahoo. We
already have one step in that direction with the ability to Direct Add new
members to IO when they join the club. It's manual but simple and we don't
have to get into that Invite, lost invitation, invite again, accept but
doesn't' put in real name, etc. cycle. We also are not putting a link to
the Groups.IO message page on our site which may satisfy the Board that it's
integrated.

But you also provided some things to think about - at least in terms of 2nd
part.

Thanks -- Dan

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

Dan . . .

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:15:00 -0700, "PACC Digital Chair"
<digitalchair2@...> wrote:

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I
guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

I'm not a big WP person, either, but I have several WP handbooks and
once ran a WP web site. If you're thinking of migrating a Yahoo Group
to groups.io then eventually to a hosted site, consider this before
having to do the migration twice:


"Perhaps you're considering moving to phpBB or Wordpress or maybe you
just want a better way to search Yahoo groups.We offer a bespoke
migration service to a new forum or merge with an existing forum."

I am friends with the person who develops PG Offline and also the
above service but have not tried what he offers because I already
moved my groups to IO and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a
hosting service, but you are thinking of using web hosting anyway, so
this might be the best approach. You can find an email link on his web
site and inquire about it. I would ask him if he has a sample WP or
phpBB site you can browse through to see what it looks like and how it
works, maybe get a referral to a group you can join to see how the
user experience is. While you're at it, you can ask for a referral to
both types of sites, one for WP and one for phpBB. That way you can
decide on which might be a better solution for you. Don't forget to
ask about how pictures, files, folders, etc., are handled.

There are plugins for WP that will provide a forum. This is just a
sample of some easy ones (I have not tried any of these):




I would suggest, though, that you stick with dedicated forum software
that's full-featured like phpBB or vBulletin. Or one of the mailing
list software packages.

Here are two aquarium fish related phpBB and vBulletin forums:


ad=h
uses phpBB software (free)


uses vBulletin software (not free)

I actually set up a complete forum for an aquatic plant club for the
SW Ohio area using phpBB. It worked very well. The club fell apart
over time and now the web site and forum site is no longer hosted
anywhere.

Putting the forum together was not a cake walk by any means, but I
never did one before and put it together in a week or two. It took a
lot of my evening time, so expect to spend some time with it.

If you use dedicated bulletin board software, you will no doubt have
many more options to choose from to manage your board. I believe there
are plugins for these two packages, too. Most web hosting sites have
phpBB in their software control panel so it's easy to install.

My other suggestion was to install Majordomo or Listserv mailing list
software (or similar) if all you need is a messaging system that
broadcasts all posts to all members.

If you need an area for pictures, files, or other things, that's
beyond the scope of what I've done, but you should be able to find
software to install on your hosted site that can handle those. You
might even be able to find software that will handle everything
without using separate packages to take care of those features.

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --Selwyn Duke
Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

 

Dan . . .

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:15:00 -0700, "PACC Digital Chair"
<digitalchair2@...> wrote:

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

I'm not a big WP person, either, but I have several WP handbooks and
once ran a WP web site. If you're thinking of migrating a Yahoo Group
to groups.io then eventually to a hosted site, consider this before
having to do the migration twice:


"Perhaps you're considering moving to phpBB or Wordpress or maybe you
just want a better way to search Yahoo groups.We offer a bespoke
migration service to a new forum or merge with an existing forum."

I am friends with the person who develops PG Offline and also the
above service but have not tried what he offers because I already
moved my groups to IO and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a
hosting service, but you are thinking of using web hosting anyway, so
this might be the best approach. You can find an email link on his web
site and inquire about it. I would ask him if he has a sample WP or
phpBB site you can browse through to see what it looks like and how it
works, maybe get a referral to a group you can join to see how the
user experience is. While you're at it, you can ask for a referral to
both types of sites, one for WP and one for phpBB. That way you can
decide on which might be a better solution for you. Don't forget to
ask about how pictures, files, folders, etc., are handled.

There are plugins for WP that will provide a forum. This is just a
sample of some easy ones (I have not tried any of these):




I would suggest, though, that you stick with dedicated forum software
that's full-featured like phpBB or vBulletin. Or one of the mailing
list software packages.

Here are two aquarium fish related phpBB and vBulletin forums:


uses phpBB software (free)


uses vBulletin software (not free)

I actually set up a complete forum for an aquatic plant club for the
SW Ohio area using phpBB. It worked very well. The club fell apart
over time and now the web site and forum site is no longer hosted
anywhere.

Putting the forum together was not a cake walk by any means, but I
never did one before and put it together in a week or two. It took a
lot of my evening time, so expect to spend some time with it.

If you use dedicated bulletin board software, you will no doubt have
many more options to choose from to manage your board. I believe there
are plugins for these two packages, too. Most web hosting sites have
phpBB in their software control panel so it's easy to install.

My other suggestion was to install Majordomo or Listserv mailing list
software (or similar) if all you need is a messaging system that
broadcasts all posts to all members.

If you need an area for pictures, files, or other things, that's
beyond the scope of what I've done, but you should be able to find
software to install on your hosted site that can handle those. You
might even be able to find software that will handle everything
without using separate packages to take care of those features.

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --Selwyn Duke
Chat Anyone?

 

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Has anyone been using Chat?

I remember how it worked back in the old days of Yahoo Chat, but was wondering how it compared. I¡¯m tempted to activate it in our group, and would like to know if it has been beneficial.

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Don
Automated email to members who put in a join request, suddenly not working

 

Ok, this is frustrating. When a member joins, he's automatically sent a questionnaire.? In the past few days, that feature has stopped working, we've never had an issue before.? Any reason for the change in behavior?

Thanks...
Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

PACC Digital Chair
 

Hi,

Just getting going with IO with 2 live suibgroups so far and I've been meaning to ask about integrations.? These sub groups are in relation to a club who's main web site and membership list are built on the Word Press platform.? One of the goals (longer term goal than avoiding Yahoo problems) is to have a discussion group like IO more tightly integrated with our WP system.?

The first goal is for the Groups to establish membership (at the group and sub-group level) based on various attributes of the Word Press Users table.? So, for example, our "Main" group as well as the members group in IO would be all the people who are "Active" in the WP Users Table.? The members of the IO "Board" subbgroup would be all the? people in WP who have a? role of? "Administrator", etc.? ?In other words as we make changes to users in WP (for example we deactivate them via a chron job when their membership expires unless they've paid dues for the following period) they would be added or removed from our IO group and appropriate Sub groups.? I'm not clear if this sort of thing is the intention of your Integrations feature or not, and if so what you have for Word Press?

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

thanks -- Dan
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