On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 05:05 PM, InkkFreakk wrote:

I own two groups on Groups.IO..

Are your groups "Basic" i.e. free, or paid - for?

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One I can upload files to, the other I cant, settings are the same..

What could be causing this issue?

If the "non - working upload" is a free group then you have most likely run out of storage space; the limit for Files / Photos / Attachments is 1 GB. Messages and wiki pages don't count towards your total, unless the wiki pages have photos in them.

How do I fix it?

If you click on "Upgrade" on the left hand side of the group web UI you will find information about the total storage space used. If it's "full" then you will have to have a clear - out, or pay to upgrade to a Premium or Enterprise group.

Chris

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I own tow groups on Groups.IO.. One I can upload files to, the other I cant, settings are the same.. What could be causing this issue? How do I fix it? ? Thanks in advance for any help.. Inkk

Received from Shal Farley at 3/18/2019 08:04 AM UTC:

the number of yahoo members who are bouncing is increasing unfortunately. woke up this morning to over 150...

That could be a delayed reaction to an outage on 3/15. But I don't see how that could account for the surge on 3/8.


You haven't told us what the affected member's Email Delivery History has to say.

In my groups it started about Mar 8 and accelerated on Mar 12.

The Email Deliver History says, "554 delivery error: dd Sorry, your message to XXXXXX@... cannot be delivered. This mailbox is disabled (554.30). - mta4486.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"

Jim H

Pamela,

i know the database can be sorted but it doesn't 'remain sorted' which
is a problem for us.

I agree. I've advocated in the past (on beta) that all list views should remember the sort order you most recently used. The database might be a more intricate case given that would need to be remembered on a per-table basis. Still, it doesn't seem that big an "ask".

Besides which sorting by month does not work as the sort is done in
alphabetical order.

Note that in Groups.io tables the column definitions have a "Type" option, you're not stuck with plain text fields as you were in YahooGroups. One of the types is Date; if you use that it should sort chronologically. Unless you have a reason to keep the dates stored by separate Year, Month, and Day fields.

We are a charity knitting, crocheting and sewing group supporting 3 or
4 different charities each month of the year, who give us a wish list
of what is needed by them. I have been using a database to record the
order of monthly projects for the past 14 years. It works for us!!

Ok, so using a Date column might be over-specific for your purposes. It may not be too confusing to have them all listed on the first of the month, but you'd also have to update the year each year, for recurring requests.

The way I used to get around this with Yahoo was to put the month
number in front of the name i.e. 1 January, 2 February etc.

I'd think you'd need to use 01 January, 02 February, ... to keep November and December from jumping ahead of February. But that's not important right now...

Shal


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On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:59 PM, Pamela Tatt wrote:

I will continue trying to import the .csv file back to the database. ?I must be doing something wrong!

You don't mention what other data you have in your table. Do you have anything like location addresses or a website URL for example?

Regards,
Andy

Stephano,

As a side note here, who do I talk to about getting our current mbox
archive uploaded to groups.io? I was planning on sending an email to
[email protected], but perhaps there is a more appropriate route.

Nope, you've got the right place.

Shal


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Poster has no Display Name and doesn't mention a name in his post. All I have is an email address. That's not much to search on in Message search.

Mark's looking at it on beta.

Dano

Ruthie,

the number of yahoo members who are bouncing is increasing
unfortunately. woke up this morning to over 150...

That could be a delayed reaction to an outage on 3/15. But I don't see how that could account for the surge on 3/8.


You haven't told us what the affected member's Email Delivery History has to say.

Shal


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Dano

yes. In the Messages view, just do a search using the name (presuming they use their real name in a signature, etc.) or search. on the username. ?Typically you might have to page down to see a msg originally posted by that member (or it might pop up as the first one). ?Then (as described by others) click on the member name and then?show all posts.?

The real lack — is a search function for members (who would EVER want to do that? Paging through hundreds or thousands? of names is so much more rewarding.)

Dano,

Aha! And that's where the Catch-22 begins!

As you've learned in beta, there is no catch-22.


Bruce wrote:

3) You can also access their profile via the Directory, or using the
"View Profile" link at the top of their record in the Members List.

For the benefit of GMF members who don't follow beta:

As a member you might wish that the Directory had a search function, but as a group owner/mod you can open their subscription page from the Members list.

At that point you have two easy options.

One is to click on their User Name and then click on "All Posts By This Member" in their profile page.

The other is to click on their "Activity History" tab; that lists their postings and other activity, the entries for each post link to the post.

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Brian,

So what I'm seeing, as I look at it, is 1 post has my actual email
address, ie, BlahBlah@... ...

Ah yes, Gmail.

If she looks a bit closer I think she'll find that the copy of the message which has her real address is the copy she sent. That is, it did not go to Groups.io and back, and does not have the group's footer on it.

Conversely, the one which has a re-written address is the copy that came back from Groups.io. It will have the group tag in the subject and the group footer at the bottom. And may have been edited by a group moderator if she's moderated in that group.

I just looked a bit more, &, though I did not check the option to
receive my own posts, it appears to be on by default.

It is.

The effect of it is to rewrite the Message-ID field of the message sent back. This causes Gmail to think that it is a separate message from the one that was sent, with the result that it is shown in her Inbox conversation rather than hidden away in her Sent folder.

The re-writing of her From address is a separate feature, and happens regardless of any settings. Without that, Gmail warns that the message may be spoofed.
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Thank you Shal,

I will continue trying to import the .csv file back to the database. ?I must be doing something wrong!

i know the database can be sorted but it doesn't 'remain sorted' which is a problem for us. ?Besides which sorting by month does not work as the sort is done in alphabetical order. ?The way I used to get around this with Yahoo was to put the month number in front of the name i.e. 1 January, 2 February etc. ?It is a big job for me to set up each year to get around all the variables and quirks in the system :)

FYI
We are a charity knitting, crocheting and sewing group supporting 3 or 4 different charities each month of the year, who give us a wish list of what is needed by them. ?I have been using a database to record the order of monthly projects for the past 14 years. ?It works for us!! ?Our members can choose to make items throughout the year and send in when that charity comes up on the calendar. ?Most of us print off the database at the beginning of the year and plan our craft projects. ?Hence me not using the Calendar -- it is used to announce when meetings are held around the country -- we are a National Australia wide Charity :)

Thanks again for you response,
Pamela

Well, the member interacts via e-mail exclusively and is a member of another groups.io group, but as a lurker.? ?Those two things being said, she was still trying to do her own diagnosis and appears to have figured out what was happening.? ?Here is what she said, with e-mail address partially redacted:

So what I'm seeing, as I look?at it, is 1 post has my actual email address, ie,?BlahBlah@...,?the other says BlahBlah=[email protected].

I just looked a bit more, &, though I did not check the option to?receive my own posts, it appears to be on by default. I've unchecked?it & it appears gmail does rewrite the from: line when it sends posts?back, so this may be what's occurring.?

I know I saw Mark talking about address rewriting recently on the beta group, and I don't know whether there may be an unintended result occurring here or not.

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I have asked the user these questions.? ?I am virtually certain she's using the e-mail interface, as this is a blind technology group and it's very, very rare for members on those (besides myself - and I am sighted) to use the web interface.

I will post again when I get definitive answers.
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Is there a simple way to pull up all the messages by a member?

Yes.

1) Find one of their messages, then select "All Posts by This Member" from the More hamburger menu.
2) If you click on their name at the top of the message, it will open their profile. The profile contains the same link.
3) You can also access their profile via the Directory, or using the "View Profile" link at the top of their record in the Members List.

Aha! And that's where the Catch-22 begins! You can't find their messages until you've already *found* one of their messages, If it's a member who hasn't posted in a while, you're stuck. I think I'll take this to beta. Why couldn't we have that same option when we select a member in the member search? Or alternately, have the option under message search to search for sender, probably including email address?

Dano

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:19 AM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

My turn to be sorry. You now have also the fun of dealing with a guy who
does most of this fun stuff on the weekend...

No worries. I appreciate your help.

> (1) download the compressed mailbox file for the month I'm interested
> in, ...

This the group mods/owners can do, except that there's no filter for
time range - the export will have the group's entire message content.

Interesting. This can certainly work though our mbox archives will get
large since we do patch review on our mailing list.

As a side note here, who do I talk to about getting our current mbox
archive uploaded to groups.io? I was planning on sending an email to
[email protected], but perhaps there is a more appropriate route.

drifting off-topic here (must be late). I start a new (to me) project
next week, which means a deep dive into a couple years' of collected
project notes in Confluence and Jira. Tools I've not used before. Oh fun!

Best of luck in your new project! I've used Jira and Confluence before
and have enjoyed using those tools. That being said, like any tool,
companies often find a way to misuse them to the detriment of the
users. Hope that's not the case for you. :)

Cheers,
Stephano

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I got the following this morning from a group member on the NVDA group:

Can you confirm if your member is posting by email or by web form? Your final comment suggests "email" but this cannot be determined with certainty from your member's comments.

Is she a member of any other group hosted by Groups.io? If so is the problem definitely limited to "your" group?

Chris

I got the following this morning from a group member on the NVDA group:

Every time I send a reply to this list, 2 msgs are generated. I'd
troubleshoot this, but my husband was recently hospitalized w/a heart
attack & pneumonia, 2 hours after which we had a house fire, & I'm so
far behind on my website work that either everyone else has crossed
the finish line or I have a substantial lead, rather suspecting the
latter is not the case. The long & the short is, I just don't have the
time to investigate it right now, & I would appreciate some help, if
possible. Thanks in advance.
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Other than BCCing oneself when doing a private reply, I can't find any setting that would cause this to happen for a normal reply via e-mail.? Any ideas?
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On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 09:48 AM, Denny G. wrote:

Can the default be changed, or can manager's have the ability to change the default ... please?

To get any action, you'll need to make your request on the beta group, the official suggestion box for the site. One of the threads that asks for it is

Duane
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