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Re: re deleting photos

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 02:54 AM, Don Grass wrote:
I found a photo album with five pictures in it (All .jpgs), and while the first three thumbnails in the album work as expected, the last two thumbnails do not. Clicking on either one of the last two thumbnails, brings up the opposite larger picture.

Don
Don,

If you are deleting pictures, it is not unusual to see this. Try refreshing your browser. That should sort out the issue.
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Re: re deleting photos

 

I found a photo album with five pictures in it (All .jpgs), and while the first three thumbnails in the album work as expected, the last two thumbnails do not. Clicking on either one of the last two thumbnails, brings up the opposite larger picture.

Don


Re: Tag Type Question?

 

Richard,


In my Group I have a topic with a name, but following is: (Tag Type Question)
What is this?

Is that text in a box with a color background, like this:

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If so, it is a hashtag. See also Creating Hashtags.

Shal


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Tag Type Question?

 

In my Group I have a topic with a name, but following is: (Tag Type Question)
What is this?
Found no info in the Wiki.
Thanks,
Richard


Re: FAIL: email posting to group

Jonesy W3DHJ
 

Well, I can see this problem is not going to be fixed.
So, I'll just move on with my life -- and without groups.io


[mod note: Jonesy left GMF shortly after posting this. So I guess it should be taken as a "Dear John" letter that deserves no reply.]


Re: Concerning Databases

 

Victoria,
I'm still experimenting w/Databases.
I learned yesterday that there is a large difference in time required to upload a fairly large database (greater than 450 and growing) between Free groups and Premium/Enterprise groups.??
While that database times out and I have to eventually ask for a login link on my Premium group
it loads in less than 2 seconds on one of my free groups.

I think that's because the Premium group defaults to Map mode and each map point must be calculated.

I plan on writing a support request that for Databases that would include a normal default to List mode and a switch for the owner to select either or both modes as well as the initial default for each database plus a couple more items like an option to define the record index number increment between records and a way to reset the index number.? And probably a couple more items in that vein.

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Re: Member welcome

 

Thanks Bruce.? That does add to the clarity.

Nancy C
ECIR Group Mod


Re: Amount of time to send emails

 

Dave,

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As to the activity in my account, the most recent successful delivery was 3:17 AM (time zone = mine or Groups.io's?),
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Times displayed on Groups.io web pages are translated to your time zone (as set in your account Preferences page). Unless they're inside a message body or other member-provided content.
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the most recent bounces were July 29 which were marked 'throttled' by Comcast, which sounds like what you mentioned.?
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Yup. And I believe that if they're showing now as bounces that means they were throttled so long that Groups.io gave up on delivering them.
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It's now an hour and a half and still haven't seen the other email.
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It may be "throttled" or otherwise deferred at the moment. I don't think Groups.io will update the reporting until the message's fate is determined (accepted, rejected, or deferred past Groups.io's retry limits).
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And Comcast hasn't completly blocked Groups.io, or I wouldn't have gotten the 'message needs approval' emails, would I?
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Correct. And I think we'd be hearing more complaints about it, or Mark would post something in beta about it (as has happened in the past) -- he watches for general deliverability issues.
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Re: Amount of time to send emails

 

I found one of the two messages in Comcast's junk-mail folder. But still haven't seen the other.?

As to the activity in my account, the most recent successful delivery was 3:17 AM (time zone = mine or Groups.io's?), no emails listed under Unsuccessful attempts, and the most recent bounces were July 29 which were marked 'throttled' by Comcast, which sounds like what you mentioned.?

It's now an hour and a half and still haven't seen the other email. And Comcast hasn't completly blocked Groups.io, or I wouldn't have gotten the 'message needs approval' emails, would I?

Dave


Re: not getting messages in my group

 

Did you go online and check your subscription to make sure you were set to receive all emails?

On Aug 16, 2019, at 12:09 PM, angelsonsAna <anaglobe@...> wrote:

Hello there, I am not getting messages in my group I don't know what I did, can anybody help?

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Re: Member welcome

 

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:56 PM, Nancy C wrote:
Upon request to join, this page of the web is immediately brought up.? In our custom message we ask that they fill out their auto signature as part of the registration process. This auto message is end-running our message as evidenced by the number of non-signed posts and emails we get from new members.
Nancy --?If you are requiring people to "fill something out" or "register" as a condition of joining your group, consider using the Restricted method of Spam Control. Otherwise, people who join your group via the web site (and already have a groups.io account) will immediately be allowed in, and be shown that "congratulations" screen.?Although the screen can be fine-tuned?slightly?via changing group settings, there is no way to insert your own custom text.?Any Member Notices you create are sent only by email.?

Once you select Restricted, the button on your home page will change to "Apply for membership" or something to that effect.

Any questions you want answered, or instructions you want sent to a prospective member before they are added, should be placed in a member notice of type Pending Subscription, not Welcome. The Welcome notice will be sent after they are approved.

Finally, be sure to check the Active box for whatever member notices you actually want to be sent.

I hope something in there helps.

Regards,
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Re: not getting messages in my group

 

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:10 PM, angelsonsAna wrote:
can anybody help?
Not without more information.? Have you checked your bounce status?? Have you changed your choice for which messages you get?? Or how they're delivered?

Duane
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not getting messages in my group

 

Hello there, I am not getting messages in my group I don't know what I did, can anybody help?

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Re: Amount of time to send emails

 

Dave,


Both messages appeared almost instantly on the website, but I have yet to receive either by email. On two different email clients.

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Comcast is notorious for or sometimes outright blocking messages from Groups.io. If enough of their customers complain maybe they'll whitelist Groups.io, or whatever they need to do, to ensure prompt and reliable delivery.

Check your Recent Bounces page (in your Account) periodically to see if Comcast has also rejected some of the messages sent to you from Groups.io. That page includes all of your group subscriptions (you also have an Email Delivery History tab in each group's Subscription page).

Shal


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Re: Member welcome

 

Hi Shal

I thought I sent this response days ago, but got interrupted and now not sure. Not seen message come through.

I have checked Settings and deleted all other notices.? Have personally left the group and rejoined to test the new member welcome message activity.

We do not require approval for membership, so folks are in automatically.? Upon request to join, this page of the web is immediately brought up.? In our custom message we ask that they fill out their auto signature as part of the registration process. This auto message is end-running our message as evidenced by the number of non-signed posts and emails we get from new members.

Thanks for any further thoughts you have.

Nancy C
ECIR Group Mod


Re: Can group owner change a members email-address?

 

Chris,


It may well be that these adddresses are being disabled by Yahoo because of lack of use, but that has to mean that the addresses aren't being used for anything else either, which is slightly puzzling.

It was (is?) a common misconception that one must use a Yahoo Mail address in order to participate in a Yahoo Group.

It was true (almost always) that creating a Yahoo Account so that you could access group web pages automatically created for you a Yahoo Mail address, which if you did nothing further became your subscribed email address for your groups. Many never figured out how to set a non-Yahoo mail address for their group subscription while retaining the ability to access the web pages via their Yahoo Account.

One consequence is that many people had two subscriptions, one with the Yahoo Mail address that they used for web access, and one with their preferred email address that they used to receive and post by email. This was a somewhat undesirable circumstance (the unused Yahoo Mail address would go fallow and start bouncing after a month or two, and that subscription didn't have ownership of the messages posted by the email subscription), but in the last few years the sheer required to correctly set a non-Yahoo email address for your Y!Group subscription became too much for many to overcome.
The other consequence, of course, is that many people simply used the Yahoo Mail address for Yahoo Groups and little or nothing else.

Shal


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Amount of time to send emails

 

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Not really a problem, but more curiosity. As owner of a group, I just received moderated message notices for a post (which I approved by email) and a reply from another moderated member (which I approved via the website). Both messages appeared almost instantly on the website, but I have yet to receive either by email. On two different email clients. And yes, I have manually refreshed both. It has now been 25 minutes and 10 minutes, respectively.

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And interestingly, I also noticed in that amount of time an attempted email from a non-member of the group in the same topic/thread.

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Not end of the world stuff; just looking for others¡¯ insight.

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Dave Grimm

[email protected] owner

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Re: Can group owner change a members email-address?

 

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 04:35 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I suspect the majority of active Yahoo Mail addresses are still working fine. But as Bruce mentioned Yahoo Mail does cull accounts that are not signed into for a long time
This thread prompted me to carry out a quick analysis of the "Bouncing" members in the group I moderate. Yahoo addresses make up about 28% of our membership, but 75% of those listed as bouncing. This must point to something but quite what it points to isn't entirely clear!

It may well be that these adddresses are being disabled by Yahoo because of lack of use, but that has to mean that the addresses aren't being used for anything else either, which is slightly puzzling. I know (if only from anecdote) that some people use a proliferation of different email addresses for different applications but to me that always looks like a recipe for confusion, starting with trying to access Groups.io from a "wrong" email address.

I am a little bewildered by some of the points raised in the original post; I know that some people are simply not tech - savvy, but it would appear that they are sufficiently savvy to be able to have more than one email address. Out of interest, how many "lost" members would expect to be able to recover because you know of their second email addresses, and what percentage of the total does that represent?

Chris


Re: Can group owner change a members email-address?

 

Victoria,


Does this mean, they can join by password without an email-adress?


No.

Their initial logon and setting of the password would have had to have been done while the old email address was still active and they could receive the required confirmation email from Groups.io. As I admitted, that's probably a rare circumstance for these members.

Ownership yes, but they can read the old stuff online if they want to including theirs, I hope.


Of course. Their new subscription is just like any other new member.

Could it be that all yahoo-adresses have stopped functioning in the course of the last few months or years?


I suspect the majority of active Yahoo Mail addresses are still working fine. But as Bruce mentioned Yahoo Mail does cull accounts that are not signed into for a long time, I think it is a year.

Shal


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Re: Can group owner change a members email-address?

 

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 08:15 AM, Victoria wrote:
Could it be that all yahoo-adresses have stopped functioning in the course of the last few months or years? Otherwise it?s hard to understand why almost all of the bounced members have yahoo-adresses and are not reachable any more.
Victoria -- Over the past year or so, Yahoo has been deleting email accounts that are "inactive"...meaning that no?posts?have been made using that address. Receiving emails does not count as "activity," and a?lot of lurkers with Yahoo addresses seem to be getting caught in that net.

Typically, you'll find that a cluster of subscribers with Yahoo accounts will all begin bouncing, with a 554 error, sometime near the beginning of a month.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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