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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Shal,
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I use Outlook 2010 for my mail interface and Firefox 61.0 as my WEB interface. I have Outlook set up to move all of my SPAM and junk e-mail to my JUNK folder and I check and clean that daily. I haven't used my Outlook WEB page, so maybe that is altering or deleting my Moderator's notifications. I'll check that and update you. Thanks, Ken "For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the Tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins" On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World, by Ephraem the Syrian, A.D. 373 -----Original Message----- |
Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Ken,
Doesn't the group+moderator.groups.io have to go to groups.io to getYes, the +owner email is delivered to Groups.io, and it in turn forwards it on the the group moderators and owners (subject to their settings). I have had issues receiving moderator's messages at times, but notWhat WEB interface? The +owner emails are forwarded to your email inbox (your subscribed address). Whether you read your email via a webmail interface, or a PC client, or a mobile client should not have any effect on whether your receive it. Though perhaps it may be more difficult to find messages misdelivered to your Spam or Trash folders in one interface versus another. I have ALL of the "NOTIFICATIONS" checked and "OWNER EMAIL"="ALLGood. That should do it. I am set up as one of the owners. Do I need to also set up an accountNo. Not for this reason anyway. I usually have a spare email address or two subscribed to my groups, at least one as a co-owner if I don't have any other co-owners. But that's just backup, not a question of message delivery. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Pending Icon, But No Member is Pending
I have a question:? I am showing that I have 1 Pending task for one of my lists, and it appears to be a pending approval for a new member, but when I check my Pending Members page, no one is pending approval.? I cannot make the little icon go away.? Any suggestions?
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Re: Yahoo group transfer but without the membership
Tom,
Is there a way to transfer a Yahoo group over but not include theYes, in Step 1 you can uncheck the "Transfer Members" box. However, it is undesirable to do so. The consequence is that any content (Files, Photos, etc.) linked to an address not present in the Groups.io group at the time of transfer becomes orphaned, and is assigned to the address of the person that initiated the transfer. The default (having all the boxes checked) solves that problem by copying the Y!Group's Manage Members list first. We have some members with messed up settings, or missing names, plusThe simple solution is to Direct Add just those members before initiating the transfer, and let the Transfer agent copy in the rest. During the copy of the Manage Members list the agent will skip any addresses already present in the Groups.io Members list. So the work you've done correcting the messed up members (and setting up your own membership) won't be undone by the transfer. Hence the skipped members will not retain their Join date, Email Delivery, or Posting Privileges from the Yahoo Group; the copied members will. One other group of members left out of the copy will be the members on Bouncing status in the Y!Group - they are skipped by the transfer agent. You /could/ try Direct Add for them as well prior to the transfer. The vast majority are likely to fail the Add because their "You've been added" notice bounced, but you may recover a few who were misidentified by Yahoo's bounce tracking. However, it isn't clear that this would be worth the effort - the few in such a state would likely have rejoined the Yahoo Group under a different address - if they were at all interested in the group. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Yahoo group transfer but without the membership
Yes, but ownership of all the group content (files, photos, etc) will be reassigned to you (the owner). Generally it's a much better idea to transfer the group as is and perform any necessary maintenance afterward.
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Hope this helps, Bruce ----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Vail <tom@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GMF] Yahoo group transfer but without the membership Is there a way to transfer a Yahoo?group over but not include the memberships. ?We have some members with messed up settings, or missing names, plus some new email addresses. ?Can we just move all the rest?of the?items (messages, file, photos, etc.) and then direct add the membership? Thanks, Tom -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Thanks Shal,
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Doesn't the group+moderator.groups.io have to go to groups.io to get the individual addresses for each moderator? I have had issues receiving moderator's messages at times, but not always, using the WEB interface and am wondering if there is something I have set incorrectly. I have ALL of the "NOTIFICATIONS" checked and "OWNER EMAIL"="ALL Emails" checked. I am set up as one of the owners. Do I need to also set up an account as a moderator? Ken ¡°Some people occasionally stumble across the truth. But then they pick themselves right up and move on like nothing happened.¡± Winston Churchill -----Original Message----- |
Yahoo group transfer but without the membership
Is there a way to transfer a Yahoo?group over but not include the memberships. ?We have some members with messed up settings, or missing names, plus some new email addresses. ?Can we just move all the rest?of the?items (messages, file, photos, etc.) and then direct add the membership?
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Re: Create a new role
Jim Higgins
Received from Glenn Glazer at 7/1/2018 10:23 PM UTC:
The general term I would prefer is "Admin" since they administrate various features. Then that's what you should call them. It's not like the average group member is familiar with the terms Owner and Moderator and even if they are you can still call the people you select for special duties Admins. Jim H |
Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Ken,
... but shouldn't I receive a copy if I, a moderator, add theCertainly a CC to the +owner address should be distributed to the mods and owners. Subject to each mod/owner's subscription option on whether to receive +owner messages. I know Y!Groups discards BCC messages to the -owner address as an anti-spam measure, but I don't recall if Groups.io does likewise; I don't think so. or is that not implemented in the "command" action?The action of sending a CC or BCC copy of the message happens at your email service; so the fact that another copy of the message was sent to a command address shouldn't affect the processing of the copy sent to +owner. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn
Our? Board of Directors are in both groups. The corporate secretary sets up calendars in both groups where necessary.? That also helps keep down any RSVP confusion, etc. If a calendar event is Board or committee specific it isn't expressed in the member group. But different strokes, etc -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends?? |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn Glazer
The general term I would prefer is "Admin" since they administrate various features.
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Best, Glenn On 7/1/2018 14:46, Michael Pavan wrote:
The definition of ¡°Moderate¡± includes "limited in scope or effect¡±. |
Re: Create a new role
The definition of ¡°Moderate¡± includes "limited in scope or effect¡±.
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¡°Moderator" is not inappropriate, as speech (actually message posting) is not the only function that can be moderated. Moderators (in group email Lists) can also control member approvals, file and photo uploading, poll creation, Calendar / Reminder functions, etc. If the title ¡°Moderator¡± feels uncomfortable, include your group¡¯s definition of what a Moderator is and can do. This definition could be on your Group Description, New Member Notice, and/or Message Footer, etc. One can argue that ¡°Controller¡± might be more accurate title, but the established tradition is ¡°Moderator¡± and I do not favor creating more ambiguity of terms by changing it. Since "moderators" isn't appropriate, I would like to create a new role called "Executive Board"... Moderators is inappropriate because, wait for it, they don't moderate and the even the implication that the speech of our members is moderated is against the culture of the group. |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn Glazer
On 7/1/2018 12:42, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:35 pm, Glenn Glazer wrote: This inquiry was actually in response to my making the calendar subscriber editable and our Vice-Chair making that exact same criticism.? I personally don't think that's a problem, but was looking for something that would satisfy their trepidations. Best, Glenn [ad trimmed by moderator] |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn Glazer
On 7/1/2018 12:48, Shal Farley wrote:
Glenn,Yep.? Charles Reid and I are on the same page in that request as noted downthread, the generalization to other features besides calendar.? IMHO, more granular is always better because you can implement coarse grained control with granular but not the other way around.Will think some more on this and report back if I come up withThere's this suggestion, which includes the idea of a merged calendar which aggregates events from the primary and subgroups. That might solve a couple of the problems with using a subgroup calendar. /me sits and waits patiently for the new features. Best, Glenn |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn Glazer
On 7/1/2018 12:46, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
We simply set up a basic free group just for this purpose.? That way there is no confusion when posting.I get what you are saying, Bob, but our use case is somewhat different in that the Eboard wants to edit a calendar that is visible by the members. Best, Glenn |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn,
Will think some more on this and report back if I come up withThere's this suggestion, which includes the idea of a merged calendar which aggregates events from the primary and subgroups. That might solve a couple of the problems with using a subgroup calendar. There are also some years-old wishes in the beta group for the ability to moderate member contributions/edits to the web features (calendar, database, files, photos, wiki). And for more granular access control generally. Perhaps what you're looking for fits in with some of those ideas. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Create a new role
We simply set up a basic free group just for this purpose.? That way there is no confusion when posting.
Also, if you need more subdivision you can? do it in the separate Executive group and maintain a clean? structure. The separation causes the Executive members to think about where they are? posting. Otherwise, one could be embarrassed if an executive conversation accidentally appeared on the member group -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends?? |
Re: Create a new role
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:35 pm, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Will think some more on this and report back if I come up with something brilliant.I cannot claim that this suggestion is anything "brilliant", but would making your Calendar editable by subscribers work? Or would it be too vulnerable to mistakes and inadvertent deletions? Chris |
Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks, I now understand the e-mail "command", but shouldn't I receive a copy if I, a moderator, add the moderator's link to CC or BCC or is that not implemented in the "command" action? ? Ken ? "For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the Tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to
overwhelm the world because of our sins" ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Chris Jones via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 2:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Rejecting a post with explanation ? On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:59 am, Ken Schweizer wrote: Any message of explanation entered before forwarding appears to be removed before it is sent to the original sender. In the strictest sense you aren't "sending an email"; you are sending a command to Groups.io to reject a post. Similarly an ("email") command sent to release a post to the members cannot be used to edit the post, e.g. trim off excessive
quotation or correct an obvious and perhaps confusing spelling error. |
Re: Create a new role
Glenn Glazer
On 7/1/2018 12:31, Shal Farley wrote:
Glenn,Oh.? Yeah, that would be a deal-breaker for us. Will think some more on this and report back if I come up with something brilliant. Best, Glenn |