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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation

 

Ken,

You mentioned a work around, but I could not find it in the FAQ.
I don't think it applies to your situation, but here it is:
/static/help#i-am-on-gmail-and-i-dont-like-getting-copies-of-my-messages

The effect of that setting, when checked, is for Groups.io to replace the Message-ID field in messages you post, when they are sent back to you. That way Gmail thinks it is a fresh message and not one you already have.

I don't know if our messaging Microsoft would help or hinder the
situation. If you believe the former, please post a good address to
contact them.
I don't think it can hurt, but I don't use Microsoft for email service and have no idea how to contact them for email-related issues.

Shal


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Re: Poll Questions #poll

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 01:12 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
Why can¡¯t Subscribers (those without a Password or ¡®loginlink¡¯/temporary password) and Members vote by email?
As has been explained, there is no difference between a Subscriber and a Member, the terms are interchangeable.? The only one that can answer your question is Mark.? This has been suggested on the beta group, but I don't remember when the discussion took place.

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Re: Poll Questions #poll

 

Bruce Bowman wrote:
To be perfectly honest, I find the GIO polling feature to have limited utility. Whenever I send out a poll, my typical response rate is 10%; and that?sample is biased towards?the kind of people who 1) respond to polls, 2) aren't completely befuddled by the GIO login process, and?3) are willing to jump through that hoop. If I'm lucky, I'll get another 10% who will respond by email, and thus have to be added up manually...so the poll results aren't even a reliable historical record.

As owners, we pretty much stay logged in all the time, but it's remarkable how many of my subscribers simply refuse to do it.
Sadly the above is all too true; anyone might think that logging in required the sacrifice of a first - born. I don't know why, but people are remarkably relucatant to do it.

Chris


Re: photos

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 09:50 am, Duane wrote:
Select the album in question, then click the Delete Album button at the top.
Note that the Emailed Photos folder is a system album and cannot be deleted.

Bruce?
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Re: Subscribers v.s. Members

 

The following two "levels," if you will, reflect the groups.io hierarchy used to keep track of accounts.

Not Confirmed -- These are people who have registered an email address, but that's it. Such people can request membership in a group, but until groups.io sends them a confirmation email and they click in the link therein, they do not even hold an account. The term groups.io uses for this is "Not Confirmed" and such people will have an NC badge in the membership list.

Confirmed -- The person has clicked on the link in the confirmation email, and now has an active account. The registered email address is the ONLY account identifier. This does not necessarily mean such a person is subscribed to any groups, but at least they can do so -- via this email address -- without going through the confirmation process again.?

The following levels only make sense within the context of some established group.

Subscribers/Members -- These are Confirmed accounts that have joined the group. Such people have only basic access to group functions, as established [or limited] by the Owner in the group Settings.
Note that these two terms are identical. Attempting to create roles based on what people decide to do (log into the site or whatever) instead of what their capabilities are is folly. If you find discriminating between these terms to be useful on some level that's fine; as long as you understand that it's an arbitrary mental convenience and the software does not know the difference.?

Moderator -- This is an intermediate level of access, generally used by Owners to delegate some of the group maintenance responsibilities to trusted Subscribers. In groups.io, this is also something of a misnomer...the capabilities of Moderators is highly configurable and often has nothing to do with the screening of incoming messages. Make someone a Moderator and look at the resulting Privileges and Notification checkboxes in their member record and you'll see what I mean. However, there are also blanket capabilities that can be made available only to Moderators and above...these are found in the group Settings.

Owner -- You own the group. You can do anything you want with it, within the capabilities available via the groups.io interface. If there's something you want to do but can't, is the proper place for suggestions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Poll Questions #poll

 

To be perfectly honest, I find the GIO polling feature to have limited utility. Whenever I send out a poll, my typical response rate is 10%; and that sample is biased towards the kind of people who 1) respond to polls, 2) aren't completely befuddled by the GIO login process, and 3) are willing to jump through that hoop. If I'm lucky, I'll get another 10% who will respond by email, and thus have to be added up manually...so the poll results aren't even a reliable historical record.

As owners, we pretty much stay logged in all the time, but it's remarkable how many of my subscribers simply refuse to do it.
Agreed, most people who belong to my groups are "completely befuddled by the GIO login process¡±.


Why must voting only be done by Members (logged in at the G.io group website)?

Why can¡¯t Subscribers (those without a Password or ¡®loginlink¡¯/temporary password) and Members vote by email?


Re: Poll Questions #poll

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:23 am, Tim Johnson wrote:
Our Membership guy has initiated a poll for GDPR responses, but now wants just to chase up those people who have not replied, to get them to take the poll.

Is there any way to do this, or can we only send a chaser to all members (which will hassle those who have already responded)?
If I correctly get the gist of your question, there is no convenient way to selectively send a "tickler" message to those who have failed to respond to your poll.

To be perfectly honest, I find the GIO polling feature to have limited utility. Whenever I send out a poll, my typical response rate is 10%; and that?sample is biased towards?the kind of people who 1) respond to polls, 2) aren't completely befuddled by the GIO login process, and?3) are willing to jump through that hoop. If I'm lucky, I'll get another 10% who will respond by email, and thus have to be added up manually...so the poll results aren't even a reliable historical record.

As owners, we pretty much stay logged in all the time, but it's remarkable how many of my subscribers simply refuse to do it.

I hope this helps, but I do realize that it probably doesn't.

Good luck,
Bruce?
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Re: Cannot Transfer Yahoo Group to Groups

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:28 am, Riley Kinney wrote:
I have tried several times to move a group and i think I have followed the instructions. I have not received any error messages.
Can someone help me and perhaps guide me through the process?
See the wiki entry at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups?

Also the summary message at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8697

Hopefully after reading these we can address any further questions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Poll Questions #poll

 

Our Membership guy has initiated a poll for GDPR responses, but now wants just to chase up those people who have not replied, to get them to take the poll.

Is there any way to do this, or can we only send a chaser to all members (which will hassle those who have already responded)?

Thanks in anticipation.


Tim


Re: Subscribers v.s. Members

 

As I go through the settings I find one instance of the term "non-subscribers" ... it would be helpful if there was a better definition for each access level, like:

? Non-Subscribers: people who go to a G.io site but don't log-in with email/password, so have very limited access
? Subscribers: people who access a G.io site and login with email/password, so may have moderated access
? Members: people who access a G.io site and login with email/password, so have full access if granted by the owner/moderator
So, after reading all the posts on this subject, are my interpretation of the 3 levels accurate? If not, there is still ambiguity and I respectfully suggest that more clarification in the SETTINGS

I would say and advocate that:

? Non-Subscribers: people who do not belong to a G.io site, so have very limited access

? Subscribers: people who belong to a G.io site with an email address only and don¡¯t login to a G.io site, so have very limited access

? Members: people who access a G.io site and login with an email address and a password or ¡®loginlink' (temporary password), so have full access as granted by the owner/moderator


Cannot Transfer Yahoo Group to Groups

Riley Kinney
 

I have tried several times to move a group and i think I have followed the instructions. I have not received any error messages.
Can someone help me and perhaps guide me through the process?

Thanks,

Riley Kinney


Re: Cannot add a file

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 09:49 am, Chris Jones wrote:
It can also be quite problematic to match up old attachments with long - forgotten messages
When you go to the group Admin on the left and click on Upgrade, the portion used by attachments is shown,? There's a live link to the right of it that will show you a list of all posts that contain attachments.? From there, you can go to them and delete the attachments as needed.

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Re: photos

 

There is a Delete Album button on the top of the page when you are viewing the album.
See also ->?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-To-Make-a-Photo-Album

Thanks


Re: photos

 

Select the album in question, then click the Delete Album button at the top.

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Re: Cannot add a file

 

After you free up some space to work with, you could download the photos that are huge, then upload them again after reducing the group size limit setting so that it will reduce them for you.? Then, using the recent feature, assign ownership to the person that originally uploaded them.? BTW, I've got my max size set to 312x312 and no one has complained, but we don't do serious graphics work, so it depends on the group.

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Re: Poll Questions #poll

 

If the Change Vote button is active before someone votes (and I believe it is), I'd consider that a bug that should be reported to [email protected]

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Re: Cannot add a file

 

ray_r.rm wrote:
Next query is how to remove Photos that are not mine.
And how to reduce attachments that are not mine.
I know the subscriber that has the most, and he will be unhappy.
I did reduce the max size from 2048X2048 to 1024X1024.
Maybe I should cut it in half again?
The main thing is that you have found the problem. If you look at "attachments" you may well find a lot of duplication because some of them may be "picture" information in members' sign - offs. It can also be quite problematic to match up old attachments with long - forgotten messages so IMHO all the attachments are good candidates for deletion.

I don't know for sure but I suspect that retrospectively reducing photo sizes won't work; that happens as part of the upload process.

As for your potentially unhappy subscriber he might just have to put up with it; You could always give him the option to either (a) lose a (large) number of his photos or (b) pay for an upgrade with greater storage. I would argue that he does not have any right to deny others the opportunity of uploading relevant photographs, and at the moment that is exactly what is happening.

As the Group Owner you have both the responsibility and the right to run the group for the benefit of all your members, not just for prolific uploaders. Is he simply using it as cloud storage?

Chris.


Re: photos

Nina Banks
 

How do I delete photo albums???

Thanks


Poll Questions #poll

 

I'm running some test polls in my new group.
The email that contains the poll provides a link back to the group home. I see a collection of poll choices and a button that says "Change Vote"
I've already had a few members confused by this thinking that they may have accidentally already voted, or someone else voted for them etc.
Is there a reason the button wouldn't simply say "vote"?

Thanks in advance,?

Jean


Re: Subscribers v.s. Members

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 07:43 am, Denny G. wrote:
are my interpretation of the 3 levels accurate?
No.? A non-subscriber is anyone that's not a member of your group(s).? Members and subscribers (same thing) are those that have joined your group, whether they access it by email or online.

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