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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 01:10 am, Shal Farley wrote:
It is easy enough to put a link to GMF's wiki on one of your wiki pages, but no I don't think you can arrange for a page in your group's wiki to automatically redirect to GMF's.
Quite so; I didn't explain what I meant all that well. What I meant was that it is not possible for "x" in the Index of a Group wiki to be a direct link to the GMF wiki page on the subject. Seems silly to set up an indexed page containing nothing more than a link to the GMF wiki!

Chris
Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

Chris,

As an option you can put a link to it in a message, but that can be
forgotten about all to easily by those reading it; a wiki entry is
there forever! (As far as I can see there is no way of making a wiki
entry simply a link to the GMF wiki.)
It is easy enough to put a link to GMF's wiki on one of your wiki pages, but no I don't think you can arrange for a page in your group's wiki to automatically redirect to GMF's.

Shal


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Re: How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups? #s

 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 07:14 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups?
Pull down the blue Topics menu and select the Messages view instead.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

Shal, Thanks for the suggestion about contacting Wilson.? This message was rejected by the beta group as not what that group was designed for, but Mark Fletcher suggested I post it in GMF.?? It was discussed about 3 years ago on the beta group in connection with groups where the moderator had abandoned them, so I guess it was considered appropriate then, but the suggestions then required help from Yahoo support, which as we all know is non-existent now. ? I might also try [email protected]

As to Mbox, do you know how an import would work??? Does it require assistance from groups.io support??? Also, the question of posting photos by the album rather than by the photo would go a great way to making things work.? As I run several related websites, I know I could put the old messages and attachments up in html form on a web page.?? I just need to figure out some sorting techniques that would make them easier to use.

On 6/22/2018 5:34 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Dale,

In any case, he cannot create owners, moderators, or send invitations
to the transfer agent, so easy transfer is not an option.
If none of my suggestions from last time worked out, you might try asking Wilson (the creator of PG Offline) about an mbox export format. Or look in the PG Offline user community to see if anyone has solved this problem.

Shal
How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups? #s

 

Admin: Members: Activity History
lists the messages a member has posted with Message #s,
but transferred messages all have the transfer date;
however Messages have the posting date with no Message #
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How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups?
Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

Dale,

In any case, he cannot create owners, moderators, or send invitations
to the transfer agent, so easy transfer is not an option.
If none of my suggestions from last time worked out, you might try asking Wilson (the creator of PG Offline) about an mbox export format. Or look in the PG Offline user community to see if anyone has solved this problem.

Shal


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Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 05:01 pm, Dale Smith wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way for us to proceed.
Dale --

Nobody here is involved with day-to-day operation of groups.io. We are just group owners like yourself, trying to help each other.

To put this inquiry in perspective, there is currently no user-accessible function to restore a groups.io group from it's own backup, let alone a third-party one.

If you're the Dale Smith who asked this same question 9 days ago (ref: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/9249), I believe the answer is unchanged:? contact support and see if Mark can help you. If not, you'll have to do some more hand-holding with the existing group owner.

Good luck,
Bruce
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A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

I have a slightly unusual transfer situation, though I understand that we are not alone. The Yahoo group we want to transfer has one owner only, who cannot log into the Yahoo site, for what reason we can't be sure.? He has given up trying to get in and asked us to take the lead in setting up a new group on groups.io, which we have done. ? In any case, he cannot create owners, moderators, or send invitations to the transfer agent, so easy transfer is not an option.

I downloaded the contents of the entire group using PG Offline and now have a database of messages with attachments in .pg4 format, and the contents of the files and photos sections of the old Yahoo Group.?? I know I can upload the photos, but with 260 folders of photos it could take a lot of effort and time. If photos could be loaded by the folder, rather than having to create a folder and then load the contents into it, that would even be a help.

The messages are the big problem.? We have about 26000 messages and my export options do not include Mbox format, which I understand can be uploaded to groups.io.? I can convert to multiple html pages and could do that to create an archive that I could host on a companion website, but that would not be a good solution.? The messages need to be preserved because this group has amassed a great deal of historical information that could be valuable to future members. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way for us to proceed.

Dale Smith
Re: Help interpreing a system message "because a message to them was marked as spam"

 

Shal, No worries.? We've been very diligent about vetting new members and politely enforcing netiquette so I'd rather be scolded than miss the point ;-)?
I've had this happen once before and observed at that time that the member almost immediately rejoined.? I put him temporarily on moderated status and looked at his past posts, neither of which showed anything worthy of concern, and unmoderated him a few posts later.

Your and Bruce's explaination and the link turn the tables correctly on what that actually meant.

Cheers, Peter
Re: Help interpreing a system message "because a message to them was marked as spam"

 

Shal, Bruce,?

Thank you both for the explanation and the follow up links.?

Much appreciated.?

Cheers, Peter
Re: Help interpreing a system message "because a message to them was marked as spam"

 

Peter,

Bruce raised a good point when he wrote:

The message in question could have languished in his junk mail folder -- or any other folder in his email client -- for months before it was finally reported.

?So if the message really was spam (and I suspect that most of these cases are not) you may have seen and handled it some time ago. I regret the scolding tone in my prior reply, as if the message were necessarily recent.

?Shal


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Re: Help interpreing a system message "because a message to them was marked as spam"

 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 03:50 pm, Peter Ely wrote:

Does it mean

a) This subscriber believed a message sent to him, from my groups.io list, was spam, reported it and thus the Groups.IO system removed him ?

or

b) Someone reported a message HE sent to the group as spam and thus he was removed?

It's a). See the wiki entry?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam?
There is also an ongoing thread here in GMF:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22531505#9535?

In either case, as the owner of the group where do I see the message in question to ensure it was an accurate assessment ?

To my knowledge there is no good way to look it up. The message in question could have languished in his junk mail folder -- or any other folder in his email client -- for months before it was finally reported. You can ask the subscriber, but if his email provider flagged it, the subscriber himself may not know.
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Bruce
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Re: Help interpreing a system message "because a message to them was marked as spam"

 

Peter
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Does it mean

a) This subscriber believed a message sent to him, from my list, was spam, reported it and thus the Groups.IO system removed him ?

?It means this. Or that the (former) member's email service marked the message as Spam and the member did not mark it "not-Spam" - however that is done in his email service.?
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In either case, as the owner of the group where do I see the message in question to ensure it was an accurate assessment ?

?You don't.?

?If it were an accurate assessment you should already know that (having received the spam yourself) and have taken action to keep your group from passing more spam.

Shal?


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Help interpreing a system message "because a message to them was marked as spam"

 


Hello,

I'm having trouble interpreting what the attached system message means.

Does it mean

a) This subscriber believed a message sent to him, from my groups.io list, was spam, reported it and thus the Groups.IO system removed him ?

or

b) Someone reported a message HE sent to the group as spam and thus he was removed?

In either case, as the owner of the group where do I see the message in question to ensure it was an accurate assessment ?

Thank you, Peter
Owner

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Subscriber has left?[email protected]
From: "[email protected]?Notification" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, June 22, 2018 6:35 am
To:?cprail1@...

Hello,

This is to notify you that [redacted] has been unsubscribed from your group?[email protected]because a message to them was marked as spam. Note that this may have been done by their email service provider, not by the individual member personally.

To turn off this notification, log into??and edit your subscription.

Thank you for choosing Groups.io groups.

Cheers,

The Groups.io Team


[personal address redacted by moderator]
Re: Groups.io having issues with Tin.it #bouncedemails

 

Jean
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I have a member saying he cannot send to the address. He has an Italian extension.
Would there be any know issues or workarounds?

?Have a look in your group's Activity log for bounced messages corresponding to his attempted posts. You may find that he was sending from a non-subscribed address or that there was something else amiss.

If nothing there, have him CC you (at a non-group address) on his next attempt to post. If a copy arrives at your inbox but not at the group, you can double-check that he spelled the group's posting address correctly (and again that he was sending from a subscribed address).

Shal
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Groups.io having issues with Tin.it #bouncedemails

 

I have a member saying he cannot send to the groups.io address. He has an Italian tin.io extension.
Would there be any know issues or workarounds?
Re: No Member Edits for Posts/Reply's

 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 02:30 pm, Dennis Cherry wrote:
edit an their posts
Something to keep in mind is that every time you save an edit, a new message is sent.? Only owners have the option of saving it without sending.

Duane
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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

On 6/22/2018 4:20 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I don't know why you would see it as instantaneous. I would expect that the notice to the (former) member and the notice to you about their unsubscription are sent at the same time. But one might expect some minutes to elapse for the member to receive and respond to the notice, which must happen before you are sent a notice of their resubscription.
Shal
Two of my list members had this happen recently. One member took eight minutes to respond and the other one took four minutes.

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Re: No Member Edits for Posts/Reply's

 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 02:30 pm, Dennis Cherry wrote:
i notice that Groups.io has no option for members to edit an their posts.? Some forums allow editing all the time others allow 1-2 hours to edit a post.

Another option would be to allow 1-2 edits per post.

Having Dyslexia and OCD that makes my life easier for me to edit my posts/Reply's
Go to Admin->Settings->Message Policies. UNcheck the box labelled "Disable Editing Posts." Be sure to click the blue "Update Group" button afterward.

To actually perform the edit, open the affected message online. Click the More menu at the bottom (just to the right of the "Like" button) and select "Edit Message" from the popup.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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No Member Edits for Posts/Reply's

 

i notice that Groups.io has no option for members to edit an their posts.? Some forums allow editing all the time others allow 1-2 hours to edit a post.

Another option would be to allow 1-2 edits per post.

Having Dyslexia and OCD that makes my life easier for me to edit my posts/Reply's

Just a though.
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