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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:46 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:

It took almost exactly a week, but none of the files came over.

Just some follow-up and clarification on this. It appears that the files area of the associated group is completely down on Yahoo. It was not the fault of the transfer agent that the files did not come over.

Bruce?
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Patty,

The following description below is from the Help pages. This explains the process for merging two accounts.

Regarding file transfers, you could try again and maybe Yahoo will be more cooperative. Use the same transfer process, but only select Files. If that doesn't help, then you'll probably have to do a manual download / upload of the files you really want to keep.

To change your email address, log into Groups.io. Then look for the dropdown in the top right corner of the page, which will be either your name or email address. Click that and then click Account.

On the edit profile page, you can change your email address. Once you do so, you will receive a new confirmation email. Once you reply to that, you will be all set.

If the email address you wish to change to is already a registered member on Groups.io, a page will come up explaining the account merge process and verifying that you would like to merge your accounts.

> Gerald

Hi,
? No one has replied to this question at all.? I'm guessing it got missed.? I'd still
like to hear from any one about whether your group(s) have had trouble with
users who are using GoDaddy domains and are getting bounced because of
it.
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Yvette, I was able to add a description to an uploaded photo, but not to an emailed photo. The description was visible in the uploaded photo.?

Frances
Toronto

Well, both my large and active lists have been transferred, it was pretty fast.? Sadly, NONE of our Files transferred over.? Not sure why, most likely due to Yahoo Groups broken stuff.? But, my question is this:? We have a few list members that already had a Groups.IO account (from other Yahoo Groups they were part of, and were transferred over).? So, it looks like they may have two Groups.IO accounts.? Am I understanding that your Groups.IO ID is your email?? And, how can you combine your two Groups.IO accounts, or is that possible??? One list member is saying she cannot sign into our new list with her "current password".? I don't think it has anything to do with her password, I think it is because she used two different emails???
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Patty S.

Thanks all for the responses. I thought there wouldn't be a way but thought I would check.

Just wondering as well why there is an area to add a description of the attached photo when we are approving a post and that description doesn't show up anywhere in the Emailed photos album?? What is the purpose of the description then?
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Yvette in Ontario

I understand the issue of hijacking, but this effort is being done with the approval of the list owner who has been locked out of Yahoo for some reason.? He has tried numerous email logon's and can't get in.? As I said, he is the only owner and since he can't get in, he can't make anyone else moderator or owner.?? He also has some health issues.?? So far, I haven't even set up the new group on groups.io, preferring to ask questions first to make sure the direction we are going is correct.? I assume "Mark" is the head of Groups.io??? We may have to work harder on the issue of restoring the owner's log in ability.?

As I understand it, the messages can only be uploaded if they are in mbox format. Unfortunately, this is not one of the PGOffline export options. Even if possible, I think Mark would be reluctant to do this, as someone could hijack someone else's group this way. I'm not suggesting that's what you are doing, but it is a legitimate concern.

Good luck,
Bruce?
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 04:32 pm, Yvette Money wrote:

Yvette in Ontario

Hi,
The folder is a record of an event that happened. That is, an object was emailed.
If you were (to be allowed) to change that- it is no longer an accurate 'record' as it was not in fact 'emailed' that way.
Perfectly logical to me.

If you wish to use the photo, you need to (IMU) make a copy and file elsewhere as appropriate. Delete the original.
Its also possible to delete the album. Ask me how I know___
regards dave

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 04:32 pm, Yvette Money wrote:

Is there a way to rename the photos in the emailed photo album?

The Emailed Photos album is not like other photo albums...it is simply a repository for the pictures. The associated message serves to identify it.?

Go to Admin->Upgrade and click on the link that says View Attachments. Here you can view all the messages with attachments in a different way and access them by size or date.

If you open one of the messages, click on the More menu at bottom right and select "Edit Message." Here all the attachments to that message will be listed and you can delete (but not rename) them if you wish.

Note that if you do delete the attachment, it is considered a message edit and a notice will be sent to the person who originally posted it, even if you click "Save without Sending."

I hope something in there helps.

Regards,
Bruce
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 03:55 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:51 am, TASA DSavage wrote:

But there are a few group members who need to be anonymous but still need to be able to view the profiles of everyone else.

I think I understand that. What I'm struggling to understand is how punishing those who don't serves to fix the underlying problem.

Bruce

P.S. By the way, you could make those members Moderators. Moderators can see all the member profiles.?
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I am struggling to see any useful purpose in the Directory for normal members.

After going through the hoops to create an account to see what all of the fuss is about, I cannot see any beneficial purpose for the Directory for ordinary members. First off, only 200 of the 1,000 members of this group show up at all. As Shal mentioned, one cannot obtain actual email addresses, although it is possible to send a direct email to a listed member. But I can already do that by doing a private reply to an existing post.

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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 03:55 pm, Dale Smith wrote:

I have read a few of the posts, but it sounds like no one has written about transferring a Yahoo group using a downloaded PG Offline database.?

I also downloaded a group in this manner once, not in order to transfer it, but for my own "safekeeping" in case Yahoo completely crashed and burned. Eventually I was able to coerce the owners of that same group to make me a co-owner and perform an actual transfer...again, as a backup if nothing else. The originating Yahoo group still exists and remains mildly [and sporadically] active.

As I understand it, the messages can only be uploaded if they are in mbox format. Unfortunately, this is not one of the PGOffline export options. Even if possible, I think Mark would be reluctant to do this, as someone could hijack someone else's group this way. I'm not suggesting that's what you are doing, but it is a legitimate concern.

Good luck,
Bruce?
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Is there a way to rename the photos in the emailed photo album?? I am an owner on my group but the album doesn't allow me to edit the photos.

I tried editing a photo when I was approving a test message with a photo attached and even though I found a section labelled "Image Options" and was able to add a description of the photo there, the description didn't show up in the emailed photos album.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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Yvette in Ontario

I have read a few of the posts, but it sounds like no one has written about transferring a Yahoo group using a downloaded PG Offline database.? Is this possible and has anyone done this?? The group we want to transfer has no available owner to start a standard transfer from groups.io.? He has been locked out and can't get in.? ?He is moderating by virtue of getting email messages for moderated posts.? I have downloaded all the messages, attachments, photos, and files via PG Offline.? ?Any thoughts?

Dale Smith

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 01:20 pm, Steven Stine wrote:

Everything is pre-configured for the invitation to go out (any way to override? ... am I missing something here??).

The Direct Add email is not an invitation. It is a notice that they've already been added to the group.

I don't think this email can be overridden. There are legal reasons why a person joining a group must be notified and given the opportunity to opt out.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:51 am, TASA DSavage wrote:

But there are a few group members who need to be anonymous but still need to be able to view the profiles of everyone else.

I think I understand that. What I'm struggling to understand is how punishing those who don't serves to fix the underlying problem.

Bruce

P.S. By the way, you could make those members Moderators. Moderators can see all the member profiles.?
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Deb,

But there are a few group members who need to be anonymous but still
need to be able to view the profiles of everyone else.

What is it they need to see that they don't want to show?

A profile can be effectively anonymous - containing only the member's
Display Name. In particular the member's email address is not available through their profile.

So I'm not sure what the concern is.

Shal


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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:51 am, TASA DSavage wrote:

But there are a few group members who need to be anonymous but still need to be able to view the profiles of everyone else.

Sorry; I think that (in the absence of a fuller explanation) the above is simply unreasonable. Obviously (?) it may be a function of what your group's "business" is, but I cannot see why they should have the right to be "anonymous" while being able to view those who agree to make their profile public. Furthermore, if you have members who "need" to be anonymous, then that would apply to others with the same "need". Why should someone with a hidden profile be able to view the details of someone else with a hidden profile?

You could, of course, make them all moderators who have sight of all profiles, hidden or otherwise. Perhaps clarification of the word "need" might help.

Chris

Bruce, thanks. I do realize that subscribers can choose their display name and make their profile private. The problem is that, if a subscriber makes their own profile unavailable to other group members, then they themselves are also blocked from seeing anyone else's profile. Which is a problem for our group. Most group members will want their profiles to be viewable. But there are a few group members who need to be anonymous but still need to be able to view the profiles of everyone else.

Deb

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:22 pm, TASA DSavage wrote:

In any case, I will just disable the directory feature for now. And invite the few individuals who need to remain anonymous to register with a new gmail address and to use an alias as their screen name.

Getting a new email address is extreme, and totally unnecessary. Subscribers do not appear in the Directory unless they opt in.?

See Subscription->Group Profile->Edit Group Profile. On this page subscribers can change their Display Name (or "alias", if you prefer) and modify their profile privacy as desired.?

Please note that the Member's list and the Directory are not the same thing.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Directory-and-Members-List

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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