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Bouncing of email subscription and message approval messages

Tom Hilton
 

Hi
as the owner of several user groups, that I maintain using email, is is quite annoying
to get bounced email just because a user or message was already approved.
When you have multiple owners or admins, it is quite possible that one of
them already approved a message or user request, without the other?
owners or admins knowledge.

How about just accepting the email and killing it instead of bouncing it.

Tom H
Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

Dan Hartford
 

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I¡¯m confused (not unusual at my age).?

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Is there a Beta (as in pre-production testing) System or was this outage on the production system?? If the latter, why was the outage notice posted in a Beta Group and not sent to this group (maybe even as a special notice)??

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If this outage only affected a Beta system (and not the released production system) I¡¯m not sure what all the hoopla is about as Beta systems by definition are pre-production and exist for testing and bug fixing so it should not be surprising that they are more volatile than production.?

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So, what am I missing here?

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Dan

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Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

Unfortunately, Page banners don't get to email only members.
While I didn't bother to inform my menbers (because, after yahoo's weeks and months of issues, a couple hours' outage is a blip)?
I think a global email or notice to all moderators & owners would have been a good idea.

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Re: Direct add not complete after 4 days

 

Thank You. Still not there so I will try again
Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 08:50 am, Duane wrote:
In addition to the other replies, there was a notice at the top of every page early this morning that the downtime was coming up.
Indeed there was, but from a poll on "my" Group it is only a minority of users who use the web interface "regularly"; the majority (78%) never use the web interface or only do so "occasionally". If this is typical across all groups then the greater majority would have had no warning of the break in service. In some respects it becomes a case of leading the horse to water but being unable to force it to drink...

Chris
Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

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I didn¡¯t even know there was a site closure for maintenance, let alone a notice it was going to be done. I have experienced a couple site closures in the past (which is to be expected from time to time), but it didn¡¯t really bother me because I had other things I could do. The good thing is Groups.io is not buggy like YG was/is, which was much more frustrating to me, and the reason I moved our group.

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Don

FOGgers Owner and Moderator

Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

Chris,

Can I suggest a request on the beta group, suggesting that planned downtime be given publicity beyond the very limited number of beta habitu¨¦s?

You may suggest it, but unless someone actually posts to beta (or support) about it, no one employed by Groups.io will know about it.

Even if it had been published on this Group then there is absolutely no certainty that every Group Owner would have known about it; even 849 members must be a lot less than the total number of Owners.

When I looked just now there were 6777 listed groups, plus an unknown number of unlisted ones.

Not to mention apparently over 2.25 million users.
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Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:49 am, Steve wrote:
it is unacceptable not to have well publicized advance notice when groups.io will be down for maintenance.

You need to also consider that "maintenance" can include unscheduled downtime, such as equipment failure.

In addition to the other replies, there was a notice at the top of every page early this morning that the downtime was coming up.

Duane
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Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

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Hi All,

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From time to time all computer systems require updates. I for one want to thank Mark for a quick and speedy update. When I consider the weeks of downtime and lost messages of Yahoo Groups, this was a blessing!

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Ken

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Re: Direct add not complete after 4 days

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:47 am, Marlean Tucker wrote:
Monday I did a direct add to our group ?( nbtpchoir ) and received confirmation that it was approved and individuals would be notified. However there are still no individual members added. Does it normally take this long?
Go to Admin->Members to ensure they aren't there yet. Direct Add does exactly what it says...it adds a member directly to the group. There is no subscriber activity needed and you won't receive further notifications (unless that address starts bouncing or something).

If they aren't there yet, try again; be sure each email address is correct and on a separate line.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:49 am, Steve wrote:
I sure hope there was a good reason earlier this morning, it is unacceptable not to have well publicized advance notice when groups.io will be down for maintenance.
Shal has provided the "correct" answer; I am curious to know if you if you run a free or paid - for Group. If paid - for then I can see your point. I don't know how many groups Groups.io supports but I would have thought that a notification could have been sent to all Group Owners.

I knew about it from the beta group and as a result posted a warning this morning at 0630 (UK time) (automated, via our Calendar) so that our members (a free Group BTW) would have a few hours' notice. However, the beta group has (at the time of writing) 456 members, which is less than 0.1% of those who are listed for "updates".

Can I suggest a request on the beta group, suggesting that planned downtime be given publicity beyond the very limited number of beta habitu¨¦s? Even if it had been published on this Group then there is absolutely no certainty that every Group Owner would have known about it; even 849 members must be a lot less than the total number of Owners.

Chris
Re: transfer from yahoo groups - time frame? #transfer

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:51 am, dash wrote:

I have been waiting since April 11th for a couple of my groups to transfer.? I think I did everything.... io invited to old group and made moderator..... all done.... so now just waiting.? dash

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Did you complete Step 4 of the instructions??

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If you don't tell him that you're ready, nothing will happen.

Bruce
Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

It was announced in the beta group on April 15 (25 days ago).

Bruce

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Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

Steve,

I sure hope there was a good reason earlier this morning, it is unacceptable not to have well publicized advance notice when will be down for maintenance.

Here's the reason (and the advance notice):


Arguably it should also have appeared here:

and maybe here:
/g/updates

Shal


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Transfer Algorithm

Glenn Glazer
 

Since I just transferred a group with some Yahoo! induced hiccups, I thought I would write down the steps as they make sense to me.? Perhaps this will be helpful others.

1. Start the first transfer request.
2. Note what Yahoo! didn't provide groups.io with to transfer, such as files or photos or databases or whatever.? If nothing, stop.
3. Go to /yahootransfer and in the lower right corner, it says "In Process".?
4. Select the appropriate group from the drop down to the right of "In Process".
5. Delete the current request if required.
6. Fill out the form requesting a new transfer and only check the boxes for what was missing in 2.
7. Wait for the transfer to complete.
8. Go to 2.

In other words, keep deleting the current request and re-requesting until you get everything you need.

Best,

Glenn


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Re: transfer from yahoo groups - time frame? #transfer

 

I have been waiting since April 11th for a couple of my groups to transfer.? I think I did everything.... io invited to old group and made moderator..... all done.... so now just waiting.? dash

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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 8:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] transfer from yahoo groups - time frame? #transfer

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How long does transfer from yahoo groups take right now?

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I put one in over a week ago (invited [email protected]), never got a ping back that transfer@ had subscribed.

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Thank you.

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Down for Maintenance Notice

 

I sure hope there was a good reason earlier this morning, it is unacceptable not to have well publicized advance notice when groups.io will be down for maintenance.
Re: DISABLING THE MUTING OF THREADS

 

I should also note that muting only applies to email delivery. Messages will still appear on the site.

Not entirely clear on why you would want to do this. Even if you could force a subscriber to be sent all the emails, there's no way to prove that they were even received, much less read.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: DISABLING THE MUTING OF THREADS

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 03:51 am, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
I have just created my first group and wish to be able to switch off a
member's ability to mute a topic as this is not desirable for this private
group. Is it possible to do this, please?
To my knowledge this is not possible; but if you don't tell anyone what this feature means, few people will bother to look into it on their own initiative.

Bruce
Re: Access to subgroups

Arno Martens
 

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 02:57 pm, A and M Parker wrote:

I own a restricted group with private archives. This group has a subgroup
which has public archives, no moderation and an open membership.
Could you set up the other way around, make a public group and a restricted subgroup?
(If GIO lets one do that.)
Arno
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