Switching from yahoo to io
I am the admin for a relatively small (120 users) EMAIL only yahoo group for my Bicycle Club. ?Yahoo has been fine except for one situation. Our rides are on Thursdays mornings and the trail master will cancel the ride via the group email on bad weather occasions. ?Obviously timing of the message needs to be immediate and for whatever reason these cancellations (we have had only 3 this year) have arrived in everyone's inbox exactly 30 minutes late. ?We haven't noticed this with other messages that are not time sensitive... so that is strange. ?
Anyway, long story short, I am shopping for a potential alternative to yahoo groups since emails coming late defeats one of the very main purposes for our group. ?I want to pick one that is going to be around and hopefully be supported for some time. ?Also, I don't really need a lot of the bells and whistles. ?Is io too much for an email only group? I did read that transferring is easy and that is extremely appealing to me given my user base (they aren't too computer savvy).
Thanks in advance for any suggestions and information.? Steph
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Hi I just had to do a search for editing the subject of a post and especially for making a post a sticky. I had done this before but it was a month or so ago. The key - you have to choose Topic View. ?I wanted to add in a hashtag to a post, unstick one post and make another sticky.?It only takes a few seconds, but the hunt for the right place took much longer! Editing a message You must have permissions to do this - e.g. owner or moderator. In Messages, change to Topic View. An arrow with a drop down menu appears just on the bottom right on the signature and date line. There are links to: Close Topic Edit Subject Make Sticky Start Merge Delete Topic
I was wondering whether you or I could just add it to the wiki of this site. Duane did the last edit of a section on "merge".? Merge
Having it in the GMF wiki does mean that owners / moderators would have to belong to this group to get this help. I was also wondering generally about a strategy for writing up such tips and making them available. Cheers, Frances
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Re: A tale of the wiki and deleting a subgroup
I'm getting this message two days after you posted it, and two days after you'd already posted the message to beta. J
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Re: A tale of the wiki and deleting a subgroup
jeffp, Hmmm. The difference between GMF and Beta is a bit less than clear to
me. Help? beta is an official group (founded and run by Mark Fletcher, the founder and developer of Groups.io itself). It is the place to suggest features and improvements to the product during its beta test phase. [email protected] is the email address (not a group) for bug reports and other support requests. GMF and Group_Help are user-to-user help groups, founded and run by Groups.io users. Here we can offer each other advice and opinions based on our experience using Groups.io and managing groups. Absent a support staff for Groups.io Mark has asked that general questions about using Groups.io be directed to user-to-user help groups like those two. /g/beta/message/10525 We can also act as a sounding board to help vet and refine suggestions before suggesting them on beta, and help you decide if something you've encountered is a misunderstanding, a bug, or should be considered as a feature request. Shal /g/Group_Help/g/GroupManagersForum
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Re: A tale of the wiki and deleting a subgroup
Hmmm. The difference between GMF and Beta is a bit less than clear to me. Help? But I will post it there. Thanks! --jeffp
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:20 am, J_catlady wrote: Jeff,
I think you should post this in beta.
BTW, long ago, even before hearing about these issues, I decided never to use subgroups (or at least, not until they were more robust) because of other problems. I don't even remember what they were. My conclusion was that they weren't usable yet, at least for us.
J
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
I don't know why IO Groups has the problem, but Yahoo has frequently (but
not consistently) had exactly the same problem with calendar event notices being
off by one hour during daylight savings time.? It isn't specifically a
problem of failing to account for DST, but I have only seen the problem on Yahoo
during DST, but even then it doesn't happen every time.
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Is the problem that most people use their local time (which
would mean Eastern **daylight** time for me)?
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
Upon further investigation, this looks like something related to Microsoft Outlook/Windows configuration. I sent the same IO event that I had issues with to a colleague and the event shows the correct time and gets put into her Outlook calendar at the right time. Same time zone settings in Windows as myself. I also opened up the event invite in webmail and clicked on "Add to calendar" to add the event to the calendar integrated into my webmail system (Strato Communicator). The events gets saved at the correct time. So for some unknown reason, when I open up the same event within Microsoft Outlook, the .ics file shifts by 1 hour. Weird!!
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
But the system should be able to figure that out. Whatever the local settings are, IO seems to be sending out an .ics file with a time that differs from the one actually created. When I open up the .ics file, the time zone shows correct but the event is 1 hour out.
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
? ? Is the problem that most people use their local time (which would mean Eastern **daylight** time for me)? ?
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
Thanks Laurence. Unfortunately, changing the local PC time zone does not help. I changed it to UTC and have the same problem. I also tried changing my PC time Eastern Time (New York). I changed the time zone for the IO calendar to Eastern and get the same issue. The meeting invite says 10:00AM New York time but the .ics file says 11:00AM. I think you are right; the software writers forget to account for daylight saving!! Odd that this problem doesn't seem to have been reported previously on this discussion board though.....
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
Eldin Rammell <feedback@...> wrote: I'm new to IO so maybe I'm missing something. I'm located in the UK and
have my profile set to my current time zone (UTC). My pc is also set to
UTC time zone.
I created an event in an io Calendar and set it to send an invite to all
group members. I received the event in my email and the text of the
invite states the correct time - 4pm. However, when I open the .ics
file, the event is timed for 1 hour ahead (though it says the correct
time zone). When I click on "Copy to my Calendar" in Outlook, the event
gets added to my Outlook calendar at 5pm.... 1 hour ahead. The system is probably getting confused between UTC and BST (the software writers forget that UTC is a time, not a time zone), and is trying to "help" by thinking it should add an hour. I'm assuming that you have both the IO calendar and your PC to BST (UTC+1); try setting them both to UTC (i.e., no summer time change) and see if that works. Remember you will then be working in UTC rather than local time. (My PC is set to UTC all year round). -- rgds LAurence <>< ... Be sure not to start a tagline you can't finis
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Re: Transferring Two Groups into One Group
Sharon Villines wrote:>>Can two Yahoo groups be transferred and combined into one Groups.io? One of my groups had one email address for 2 years and then changed. Both lists have to be searched to find historically important information on policies, etc.<<
I'm not sure of the answer to your actual question, but the way I solved this issue myself, was had the newer Yahoo group transferred to groups.io and then had the older Yahoo group transferred to a subgroup of the main one on groups.io.
I don't allow posting in the "archives only" older subgroup, but anyone can go and join it and get information .
Brenda
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Re: question about deleting a subgroup
Shal Farley wrote:>>That's not at all the answer I would have expected. Or rather, I would have expected that answer for the primary group names, but not the names of subgroups.<<
Shal, when I first created MM Sanctuary and then asked Mark to make me a subgroup to host MM, we had problems and he told me I had to delete it and remake it to fix the problems.
I told him I didn't want to lose the title MM, because that was what it needed to be called, so he assured me that if I deleted the subgroup and recreated it, he would allow me to keep the original name.
So this has been happening for some time.
Brenda
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Calendar Events out by 1 hour
I'm new to IO so maybe I'm missing something. I'm located in the UK and have my profile set to my current time zone (UTC). My pc is also set to UTC time zone. I created an event in an io Calendar and set it to send an invite to all group members. I received the event in my email and the text of the invite states the correct time - 4pm. However, when I open the .ics file, the event is timed for 1 hour ahead (though it says the correct time zone). When I click on "Copy to my Calendar" in Outlook, the event gets added to my Outlook calendar at 5pm.... 1 hour ahead. Maybe I've made a really obvious mistake here but can anyone suggest how to correct this. Obviously, it is important that event invites get put into electronic calendars at the right time!!
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Re: Permissions on Export Table Option?
It doesn't look to me like there's a way to do that. I created a test table and locked it down as much as I could, but as long as my member account could see it, it could be exported.
Duane
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Permissions on Export Table Option?
Where can we set the permissions on who is allowed to export a table/Database? Thank you! Maria
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Re: Changed colors on databases
I'm Ok with the colours but I'm very new to group.io and trialling a members group and sub group - Regarding the database can anybody tell me why coloured columns do not allow type to be black as it's difficult to see white on pastel shades. Also anyone know how to change date format to English ie 27/9/2016 as?opposed to 9/27/2016?
Barry???
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Changed colors on databases
Has anyone else noticed the bizarre change of colors on database columns? ?They are really jarring and I don't like them at all.
Jean
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Re: A tale of the wiki and deleting a subgroup
Jeff,
I think you should post this in beta.
BTW, long ago, even before hearing about these issues, I decided never to use subgroups (or at least, not until they were more robust) because of other problems. I don't even remember what they were. My conclusion was that they weren't usable yet, at least for us.
J
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Jeff Powell <jrpstonecarver@...> wrote: Hi All, Today I have a cautionary tale. As some of you might recall, I looked into subgroups as part of our coming migration, hoping to solve some issues with hot topics and other things in our neighborhood group. Alas they aren't in a state where they help with that for us, because we can't move messages (and threads) between groups easily and keep replies from showing up in the wrong place. So, unless that changes, subgroups are a no go for us. Then I discussed an issue about deleting a subgroup, where Mark told me that deleting a subgroup does not free up the subgroup name for reuse unless you specifically ask for them to free it for you. OK. Such is life. Then we decided to delete the subgroup I'd created as a test. It was confusing our beta testers about what address to send to, among other things. It turns out that subgroup deletion has impacts, let me tell you. I'd created a bunch of pages in the wiki - our group FAQ - and crosslinked them in quite a few places. Imagine my surprise when all those links broke. Looking at them, I discovered that the URLs in use for the links were all invalid because they'd been created while the subgroup existed, but now that it didn't exist anymore the URLs I needed are different. Example: - ?- a URL created when the subgroup existed. (This doesn't work anymore.)
- /g/95033talk/wiki/95033talk-FAQ?- the corrected URL needed after the subgroup was deleted (or before any subgroups are created).
I suggest everyone think LONG and HARD about creating any subgroups if you have links anywhere in your system - in messages or the wiki, at least - because if you do, your first subgroup will break all those links. And if you delete all the subgroups you create, you'll have to fix all those links again. I learned this the hard way. Only about 20 links to fix in my case, that I know of, so far. YMMV. I suggest to the developers that there is something wrong with the existing subgroup scheme in this regard. No one should expect the links in their wiki pages to break if they create their first subgroup, or delete their last one. Similarly with links between messages in the message archive. There has to be a better way for subgroups to work. And while I am on this rant - sorry! - this wiki is very limiting. No images? Real URLs for internal links rather than the much simpler page name schemes used by most wikis? Without wanting to make even more work for myself, is there anything that can be done about that? --jeffp
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