This happens to us when someone writes in Word then pastes the message into an email. Huge long documents.
It seems to be something coded in Word that other things interpret differently.
It's in the underground somewhere.
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Sharon, I didn?t know that. Pasted from word directly into the message field and then edit it with "justify" seems to slim it up again. But what an awkward procedure!
Victoria

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 08:15 pm, Jim Betz wrote:

I was really hoping that there
was some kind of Required introduction capability that occurs
during the request for membership process - in order to weed out
the spammers as early as possible.? In this particular case that
would be easy ... because it would be difficult for any spammer
to fake his interest in the topic this group is about.

Surely the use of "Pending Subscription" messages deals with this. A Group I moderate has this set up and it seems to work. (FWIW we used to do this "manually" which was a real chore - Pending Subscription has dispensed with the work.)

Quite a few applications arrive with no follow - up to the Pending Subscription request. We either wait until they time out and vanish of their own accord or delete them ourselves. Curiously, when we get applications that are followed up by a response, that response usually turns up within 24 or 48 hours; any longer and the likelihood of a response turning up drops to almost zero. Sometimes we repeat the Pending Subscription message but still get no response. Were they spammers? I have no idea.

Our group (just over 2900) has most members fully moderated; only a trusted few beome free to post without moderation delays. Any attempt at spamming would be spotted pretty quickly, followed equally quickly by the ruthless application of the ban hammer.

Chris

On Apr 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Then, as you noted, we have the scenarios where the original message may or may not contain a lot of colors, links, etc...or just plain text. To test all these combinations would take 7 x 5 x 2 = 70 different trials, minimum. [snip] A further complication -- as if we needed one -- is that many email clients can be configured to strip out HTML, even if the original message contains it.

Exactly the problem. Thank you for the calculations.

With so many options, they all become moot because if used they cancel each other out. Inside a company system where things can be controlled — legislated by the system — then everyone is the same but the company has a range of options to choose from.

In a free from environment it’s rather like chasing one’s tail to figure out why Alicia’s links are suddenly becoming long text strings of numbers. In the past I’ve just insisted on plain text in emails, but it’s getting hard. Everyone wants HTML, except the 25% who don’t.

I find all the colors in HTML email to be so discordant.

I guess the only option is to check none of the boxes and see what happens.

Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington, DC
"As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row." The Covert Comic

On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

The originally formatted line spacings inside the text double and triple so the text becomes unnaturally long. When received as e-mail, the texts stay formatted as originally created. I haven?t found out why so far.

This happens to us when someone writes in Word then pastes the message into an email. Huge long documents.

It seems to be something coded in Word that other things interpret differently.

It's in the underground somewhere.

Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington DC
"We're only the light bulbs, and our job is just to remain screwed in.” Bishop Desmond Tutu

Okay, the problem then is with the table settings, not the group settings.

Open the table that's giving you problems, then click "Edit Table" at the top of the page. At that point you can change permissions for who can view, edit, add rows, etc.

Bruce

One just-discovered clue that tells me something is "broken" with my current database:? Our group has two databases, one an old archive, and the other our current database.? I find that rank-and-file members can "add another row" to the old archive database but not to the current database.? I think I'll ask Support for help!

Milt

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Thanks, Bruce.? What you said makes sense, but I tried both settings and neither produces the green box.? Here's what I see when I log in using a member's? (not moderator's) login.

I'm attaching the setting and the yadda-yadda-yadda beneath the database.

Perhaps I have another setting somewhere in the wrong position???

You're only a couple of weeks ahead of me on the timeline, but light years ahead of me in understanding how to make Groups.io features work.? It's a great new platform but my learning curve is still close to straight up!

Again, my thanks for your help!

Milt

Barb

In a sense you're right in thinking it logical to return to the original name. But...

The problem is the reverse of that with which Pete opened this topic: he feared that the [email protected] address would stop working, when the sub-group was created, and the old, 'main' group address became [email protected] - as Shal reassured him, the old address keeps working, becoming an alias to the new. But when the sub-group(s) go, the [email protected] goes, and stops working - if well established, this will be a real problem.?

Jeremy
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PS I have raised this on beta, see

Hi Bruce and Robert,
Yes, categories similar to what Yahoo uses for groups but just a single level instead of the multi level heirachy they attempted to set up. ?There is more detail in the thread in the “beta” group with some additional discussion.?

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Regards, Al / NN4ZZ
al (at) NN4ZZ (dot) com

Hi,
? Thanks for your answers.? It appears that all of the spam protection is
already being done for this particular group.? It is not possible to have
a group - which literally has thousands of members - to be fully
moderated.
? Hopefully we will catch any potential spammers during the 'first 2
messages are moderated' phase.? I was really hoping that there
was some kind of Required introduction capability that occurs
during the request for membership process - in order to weed out
the spammers as early as possible.? In this particular case that
would be easy ... because it would be difficult for any spammer
to fake his interest in the topic this group is about.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - thanks again ... Jim B.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.

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I overlooked the poll in the message, but it is very easy to go to the webpage for this group and still vote.? I just did it.

/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/automatic_deletion_of_members/16655646

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Barb

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On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 05:27 pm, Marti Garner Gmail wrote:

Our group is photo heavy and when people reply to messages with photos in them we get multiples of the same photos.? Is there a way to select several messages and delete them?

You can delete entire topics and entire photo albums; but if you want to keep the first post and its image, to the best of my knowledge you have to delete the remainder one by one.?

Fortunately, most of my group members have the good sense to send photos as attachments instead of embedded images, but a configuration option to convert one to the other would be a very nice thing to have.

Bruce

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Jeremy, if you've deleted all the subgroups, isn't it just going back to the original name ([email protected]) logical?? That is what the name was before you added subgroup(s).? Not sure why that would be a problem?
Barb

I believe what Al's looking for is something to supplement the Public group directory search engine...sort of like the categories you see on the front page of Craigslist.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

I've often asked myself this same question. As you mentioned, there are three settings in the group management area:

- Force HTML emails
- Normalize HTML emails
- Plain text only

Oddly enough, it is possible to check any combination of these three boxes and save without an error. If that is done, I don't know which setting[s] take precedence. It would take a minimum of seven different trials to find out.

Then in the subscriber settings, we have the following:

- Individual emails
- Full-featured digest
- Plain digest
- Daily Summary

And there's one final option not here but relevant...viewing the messages on the web with no email delivery at all...for a total of five. Some of these will contain hyperlinks, some not.?

Then, as you noted, we have the scenarios where the original message may or may not contain a lot of colors, links, etc...or just plain text. To test all these combinations would take 7 x 5 x 2 = 70 different trials, minimum. I don't know anybody who has done this.

Other settings in your group will change the footer content and what hyperlinks appear therein.?A further complication -- as if we needed one -- is that many email clients can be configured to strip out HTML, even if the original message contains it.

It might be nice to have a "sister group" to GMF where we can try out some of these features and address these questions once and for all (I suspect Mark already has one set up). But even if we did, the answer would no doubt be complicated and unlikely to truly satisfy to your group members.?

I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't.

Bruce