One of the groups I am on is full if innain chatter from, largely, two people.
Is there a way to turn of just these two - I know I can turn off ALL emails, but this rather defeats the object of the group!
Thanks
mike
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All my questions were answered in this discussion group and so I set my email preference to no email. However, I just wanted to follow up on how groups.io is working for my discussion group.
When I made the switch from Yahoo to Groups.io, I received a number of personal messages expressing their gratitude for getting away from Yahoo and one said Groups.io was a good choice. By chance, on the day the transfer was completed, one member had not known yet it had been (I just learned it myself and had not yet sent a message to everyone informing them of it) and said he was unsubscribing from Yahoo because of the difficulty of creating and losing messages. Recently, one member said it is so much better than Yahoo. There are a few things I have noticed after the transfer. One is that there are more discussion messages than there used to be. I think this is because the turn around time is much better than in Yahoo and so members can actually carry on a conversation instead of waiting hours or a day for a message to go through. The other thing I have noticed is that members who had not participated for a long time are now participating.
Stan
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Re: Changing times on calendars
The problem with time change has on,y shown up on Sundays. I was able to change the time on a Tuesday event. Not sure why that was the case...
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
In response to Bruce & Paul...
I can see your point about "Special Notices". However, it has been our (as in our Group) experience that it has been sending out a special notice that has caused the problem! It is suspected that the members concerned may have been set to "special notices only", so normal traffic didn't get sent to them. Then along comes a special message and the MSP immediately says "spam!" and deletes them.
In your specific cases what would happen if your "special notice" sent out as a rescue mission was itself marked as spam? Would the MSP finish up getting annoyed because 2 spams had been found and the feedback loop had seemed to have done nothing?
With setting to "no email" then you can still email the individual concerned by sending them a direct one. Also can you send an email to one specific member as a Special Notice? I don't know but I suspect perhaps not; you would finish up sending it to everyone on Special Notices.
At the time I am typing this I am awaiting a poll I set up being passed by GMF Management; if I can do an edit to it after it is released then I can add another question, but I honestly think relying on special notices may cause more problems than it solves. Don't forget that if a member is set to "no mail" while they are still a member you as an owner or moderator can set it back to something else yourself; if they have been dismembered you can't. There are other ways of contacting them than by using a special notice.
And I use the term "dismember" because it is so obviously the wrong word. :)
Regards,
Chris
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Re: Unwanted duplicates sent.
Back up the truck and pull the emergency brake. Same Thread:? /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/16637346#6731Less reading here:? ? /g/GroupManagersForum/message/6758
I got a better tech rep at 1+1 that understood the problem better than their others. Thanks to suggestions from Shal, 1+1 (general support) and I did a deep dive together and found that the "Quick Reply" button at 1+1 WEBmail (the one next to "reply all") is awful when working or dealing with Groups. TheGroup.IO site for sure. (In full.) 1+1 WEB-mail "Quick Reply" runs off and does all sorts of bizarre things. A BCC triggers all sorts of stuff even harder to believe. (Not getting into that now.) I was shown a more hidden way to start a "reply" that actually brings up a "center of screen dialog box" with questions and additional selections. The odd thing is? --- THAT dialog box defaults to "reply all" and asks if you really meant to do that. (Really<???>) Default is incorrect (IMHO) two times in a row? Thanks again to Shal, we were searching for the the non-existent setting of How to reply -- default. (No setting...) "You can't make this stuff up" I have not tested ANY of that yet... Rick
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
On Saturday, March 31, 2018, 9:44:27 AM EDT, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:Much earlier in this thread I (and I think another) floated the idea of any membership cancellations because of spam reporting being replaced by? a forced change to "no emails / web only" access. One member here raised the point that his group did not allow "no emails", which might well be a valid objection. However, having thought about it a bit more, surely an enforced use of "web only" simply has to be better than being unceremoniously removed from membership completely.
Would there be a concensus in favour of this? If one emerges then I will place it as a suggestion on beta.
Regards,
Chris
I think I replied to your earlier inquiry because I don't allow "No Mail" as an option because I always want to be able to communicate to the members. I suggested setting them to "Special Notices Only" with a note to the Member & the Group Owner(s). Owners will be able to communicate directly with the offending member to correct the problem and not have to worry about them being spammed out.
Paul, Ohio, USA
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 06:44 am, Chris Jones wrote:
Although automatic dismemberment is not an everyday occurrence I will keep a watch out for any.
I like that..."automatic dismemberment." Reminds me of spontaneous human combustion. :-)
Much earlier in this thread I (and I think another) floated the idea of any membership cancellations because of spam reporting being replaced by? a forced change to "no emails / web only" access. One member here raised the point that his group did not allow "no emails", which might well be a valid objection. However, having thought about it a bit more, surely an enforced use of "web only" simply has to be better than being unceremoniously removed from membership completely.
I'm the one who mentioned this. As long as in groups such as mine the member was placed on Special Notices instead of No Email, I would be okay with this means of handling "removed for spam." Please give a lot of thought, though, as to whether this is the best way to deal with that rare person who might be actually spamming. Bruce
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Re: Subscriber setting for atttachments
Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Shal and Bruce.? Just what I needed!? You guys are terrific.
Milt
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
On Saturday, March 31, 2018, 7:07:18 AM EDT, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@...> wrote:
> I think it should be on the list because they live by Yahoo's policies.
> Also, btinternet, a British provider who used Yahoo services but has
> split off should probably be included. I don't remember if any of my
> group members who use btinternet have "Spammed Out."
BT still use Yahoo for some (most?) customers. The change to Critical Path
was stopped before completion. The BT Yahoo email service is as unreliable
as it ever was.
Thanks,That explains why some BT members of my Yahoo group were still able to access the Files, Photos, Links etc and some were not. Paul, Ohio, USA
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:24 am, Paul Ohio USA wrote:
I don't remember if any of my group members who use btinternet have "Spammed Out."
And neither do I, unfortunately. Being a UK based group there are quite a few of them ( us actually; I use btinternet as well) Although automatic dismemberment is not an everyday occurrence I will keep a watch out for any. My BT mail did migrate to another supplier so with an uncertain proportion of subscribers on each of the providers getting anything statistically meaningful is not going to be easy. Much earlier in this thread I (and I think another) floated the idea of any membership cancellations because of spam reporting being replaced by? a forced change to "no emails / web only" access. One member here raised the point that his group did not allow "no emails", which might well be a valid objection. However, having thought about it a bit more, surely an enforced use of "web only" simply has to be better than being unceremoniously removed from membership completely. Would there be a concensus in favour of this? If one emerges then I will place it as a suggestion on beta. Regards, Chris
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Re: Changing times on calendars
Did you ever figure out what was going on?? I've looked at some events that were scheduled before the time change.? It looks to me like they all have the same clock time, but the GMT offset changed to an hour earlier.? The calendar times can get confusing because each person can select the time zone they want to use.? I also noticed that when setting up a new event now, it shows the wrong offset in the Timezone box on the event page.? I'll send in a note to support about that. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Number of Groups.io Members
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 09:13 am, toki wrote:
Which makes 25
March 2018 the day that the two million mark is reached
It looks like it actually happened on 29 March.? Latest I've seen is 2,017,244.? Lena's information for finding the 'group number' may allow someone else to update on that.? Visible only shows 5748. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
Paul Ohio USA <pwberndt@...> wrote: I think it should be on the list because they live by Yahoo's policies.
Also, btinternet, a British provider who used Yahoo services but has
split off should probably be included. I don't remember if any of my
group members who use btinternet have "Spammed Out." BT still use Yahoo for some (most?) customers. The change to Critical Path was stopped before completion. The BT Yahoo email service is as unreliable as it ever was. -- rgds LAurence <>< ... Meaningless tagline attached to pointless message.
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Re: Subscriber setting for atttachments
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Re: Subscriber setting for atttachments
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 06:39 pm, Milt Baker wrote:
Are there other guidelines on attachments we can pass on to members?? Where can I find them?
The system Help and the wiki of this group are pretty silent on this topic, but I just (tangentially) answered this question in another thread. See? /g/GroupManagersForum/message/6736Hope this helps, Bruce
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Re: Subscriber setting for atttachments
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 06:39 pm, Milt Baker wrote:
Specifically, how does a member control the following?
a.? Whether or not to allow attachments
Admin->Settings->Message Formatting->Attachments
b.? How to limit to size of attachments downloaded with digests (or individual messages)
Admin->Settings->Default Sub Settings->Max Attachment Size Be advised that the individual subscriber can override this default (in the Advanced Preferences in their Subscription menu). Bruce
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Subscriber setting for atttachments
I moderate a 750-member group that migrated from Yahoo Groups a month ago.? We've never used attachments but would like to try roll out allowing attachments and we need some help.
Specifically, how does a member control the following?
a.? Whether or not to allow attachments
b.? How to limit to size of attachments downloaded with digests (or individual messages)
I believe I remember seeing subscriber settings for that, but I've?I've looked and looked but cannot find that info.
Are there other guidelines on attachments we can pass on to members?? Where can I find them?
Any help would be very much appreciated!? Many thanks in advance.
Milt Baker, Nordhavn Owners Group
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Re: Unwanted duplicates sent.
I forgot the e-mail might not show.
The last part is @YAHOO.com
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 06:14 pm, RickGlaz wrote:
Thanks for the date, it made it way easier.
Here Is what I see at my "joining account" email.
To see the time, scroll to the right. Or repeated here:?Mar 11 at 5:22 PM
The logs apparently are wrong? Stuff happens?
OR, did I close that in a day and open as another?
I think the first, but could be wrong.
Could a change that quick miss being logged?
I do appreciate your efforts and do not want either of us to look bad or wrong.
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Re: Unwanted duplicates sent.
Thanks for the date, it made it way easier. Here Is what I see at my "joining account" email. To see the time, scroll to the right. Or repeated here:? Mar 11 at 5:22 PMThe logs apparently are wrong? Stuff happens? OR, did I close that in a day and open as another? I think the first, but could be wrong. Could a change that quick miss being logged? I do appreciate your efforts and do not want either of us to look bad or wrong. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Unwanted duplicates sent.
Almost sent this from 1+1 but copy and pasted to .IO to prevent "the problem". I should always just use this here. .IO
I looked at the outgoing headers in the sent box and "there" it does not show a BCC.
It does not show a send to Yahoo either.? not regular, CC or BCC.
I do not look at outgoing headers much and the BCC part is something I might
have never looked for before.
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Bad news is, since the Yahoo post contained the wrong references to locations as
pronouns "it" was basically giving out bad info as a result. So I manually deleted it
from the Group archives.
AND quit that Group at the same time so this could never happen again.
Certain members of the .IO Group get into a feeding frenzy when having to see problems
like this. I got the one off Yahoo Groups as fast as I could, almost.
I would be happy to send that as the copy I Got in my now former Yahoo Groups account
as WEBmail at 1+1WEBmail. That would be what every other member would have gotten
using a local client email program.
IF that is just as good, and is acceptable, just ask. I see your email address using my 1+1.
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According to what I TRIED to do,
The BCC to self should have come within 3-5 seconds of hitting the send/reply button.
A little later, after moderation, BOTH of us would have gotten it. If sent from 1+1 you would
get two... I'm starting to loose track. I'm on my fifth typo search and add...
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I never got the BCC, and there is nothing here that says I sent to Yahoo.
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We need to stop because I am not trying to drive you crazy, but I'm getting there.
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I do accept your advice in the sense that using 1+1 here is not wise for whatever reason.
I no longer want to pursue this on a semi-public forum.
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I do appreciate your efforts but when someone tells you impossible things are
happening they (I) might seem demented.?
Throwing in the towel, Rick? ? Email copy offer above still stands.
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