Here's the thing. I did not give anyone the name of the new site. The email that Groups.io sent out had the name,

"Hello,

Thank you for your interest in the??group at Groups.io. If you did not request or do not want to join?main@...ups.io, please ignore this message.

If you only want to send and receive messages from?main@...ups.io, reply to this email to confirm your email address and activate your membership.

In any event, only some of my 150 members received that email.

Very strange

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On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

NEW: For restricted premium/enterprise groups, approving a Not
Confirmed pending member now automatically confirms that account as
well.

Wait. Wasn't this already true?

Yes and I could have sworn it was in effect before. It seems to have gone away. I also wonder whether there haven't been some significant changes to confirm in general.?
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? OK!

? ? ?Every thing is fine and the 'block' cleared up!? No idea what happened or why!?

Thanks for helping!

Rod

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Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

CHANGE: Improvements to the wording of the spam unsub email and
moderator notification.

Hopefully this will help reduce the overall confusion. See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam and
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/15036408

NEW: For restricted premium/enterprise groups, approving a Not
Confirmed pending member now automatically confirms that account as
well.

Wait. Wasn't this already true?



Comments about these others are also welcome:

NEW: Enterprise groups can customize the HTML on the login page as
well as on the send login link page.
CHANGE: Two factor protected accounts can now use Email Me A Login
Link.
CHANGE: When editing a wiki page, don't submit the edit on enter in
the reason text field.
CHANGE: When trying to change your email address, if you enter in your
existing email address, it will now display an error (previously it
was silently ignored).
NEW: You can now edit the moderator notes of past member records.
NEW: Display the name of the owner of each photo album.
NEW: New View Members moderator privilege.
CHANGE: If a group's Members Visible setting is Owners only, it used
to be that we allowed moderators with one of the member change
privileges (approve pending members, ban, etc) to also access the
Members list. But now, if Members Visible is set to Owners, only
owners can access the members list, regardless of whether moderators
have those privileges.
CHANGE: Don't create activity log entries for bouncing or unbouncing
someone in banned groups.
CHANGE: Title and description no longer required for Link database
columns.
CHANGE: Wording changes on Group Settings page for group/message
visibility.
NEW: For enterprise groups, add a link back to Groups.io under the
account dropdown in the upper right.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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? ?The Yahoo group for the SONY receiver, the ICF-2010 was having problems with Yahoo so I started a new one with group.io in December. All went well till just recently and I am still a member but no longer have administration control with the group. I did not originate the SONY Yahoo group, that was done by a fellow back in 1999. Him and I worked on the groups.io and that switch over was fairly smooth. I also lost membership with this group and had to re-join....
? Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks Rod Wallberg aka poikaa

Valerie,

More robust platforms offer the option for a moderator to remove a
post from one topic and put it under another without having to change
attribution etc. Is this a feature I am just missing, or something to
consider as an enhancement?

The feature exists, but as it stands it is far from facile or trouble-free.

What you have to do is split the misplaced message out of the topic it landed in (unless it is already stand-alone, or unless the rest of that topic should go with), and then merge that topic (the misplaced message) with the topic it should have been in.

These (in need of some TLC) instructions are linked from the home page of our (GMF's) wiki:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Split-Threads
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads

The trouble comes in if the topic in question is still active. That is, specifically, if someone replies by email to the (formerly) misplaced messages. Those replies will (most likely) have the wrong Subject text and become new topics of their own. Requiring further merge efforts. And replies to those replies, and so on.

If the group is fully (or mostly) moderated you can head (some of) that off by putting the correct subject on the replies while they are in the pending list. But not every group runs that way, nor are moderators always that attentive.

There have been some rumblings in beta about needed improvements, but I don't know if that's likely in the near term.

Shal


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Wanda,

Can we use a sub group as a bulletin board for swaps and challenges
for the group? I understand we would have to have all members join
that sub group to see it. We need a way to post swaps and challenges.

You can set the subgroup's visibility to: "Group listed in parent group, messages viewable by parent group members". That way all members could see them without having to join the subgroup. But they'd need to join the subgroup to receive the posts by email, or to reply to them.

That might be an advantage if most members don't need to post or reply to the swaps or challenges (I'm not sure how those work).

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Hi -- I've managed email lists and forum sites in the past and am wondering whether I am missing a more elegant way to move a post to the appropriate topic?

So far, I've found I can copy the text of the original post to the desired topic and choose not to spam everybody with a resend, and optionally remove the original post.

More robust platforms offer the option for a moderator to remove a post from one topic and put it under another without having to change attribution etc.? Is this a feature I am just missing, or something to consider as an enhancement?

Valerie

Can we use a sub group? as a bulletin board for swaps and challenges for the group?? I understand we would have to have all members join that sub group to see it.? ?We need a way to post swaps and challenges.

Norm,

So I've begun the transfer procedure. But my members are getting an
email that only joins them to the Update Group, not mine.

The phrase "joins them to the Update group" makes me suspect that what they've done is gone to the Groups.io site and used the Sign Up page to create a Groups.io account. The message in question would be the request to confirm their email address.

They didn't need to do this, the transfer agent would have created accounts for them. On the other hand it causes little trouble except possibly some initial confusion on their part (and yours).

I've had a few copy me on their email, and when I use it in incognito
mode, I do not become a member of my own group.

I'm not sure, but that was probably harmless. If they had already used the link in the message then it shouldn't do anything for you. If they hadn't and you confirmed their email address on their behalf maybe something could get confused, but being incognito would likely prevent that.

But the point is that you should not have expected to become a member in your own group merely from that message. To become a member they should wait for the transfer agent to do it, or they would have to use the Join button on the group's page, or its email +subscribe command.

Two members have tried to send messages to the new group, but they are
not members of the group, so they are rejected.

That's one of the pratfalls of announcing the new group name (email address) prior to them receiving the "You have been added" and/or Welcome notice. Either that or they could be posting from a different email address than the one subscribed to your Y!Group.

And yet, one member got on all by himself, having received the same
email.

That implies that he/she found your group's home page and used its Join button (and that your group is not restricted membership, or that you approved their membership). That particular member's membership settings will not be copied from the Yahoo group - delivery choice and posting privilege primarily, but also his/her join date.

Shal


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Don,

It would be nice to see an example of a Sidebar.

Here's an example with a sidebar from a different brand of wiki:


Shal


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Agreed!
You could change your settings to require hashtags?

Frances?

Thanks,.
I do have a restricted group. But sending a message to my members was not expected. There's no transfer done. But I'm getting emails.
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If you just started the transfer, it may not be done, depending on how many members, etc.? If you set up a Welcome message, it will go to the members so they'll know the group is active. The one person that got in may have just joined on the site if you don't have a restricted group.

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Go to Admin > Settings and scroll down to Features.? In the Files section, see what your setting is for Permissions.

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So I've begun the transfer procedure. But my members are getting an email that only joins them to the Update Group, not mine. I've had a few copy me on their email, and when I use it in incognito mode, I do not become a member of my own group. Two members have tried to send messages to the new group, but they are not members of the group, so they are rejected. This could be a long transfer procedure for me.

And yet, one member got on all by himself, having received the same email.

Any ideas welcome.
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Holly,

I started the process of creating a group just this morning. It still
says "archives", not "messages". I saw nothing called "visibility",
possibly because when I wrote this message I hadn't completed the
process of creating the group. I see visibility under settings now,
which of course wasn't available before creating the group.

Yes, oops. I was thinking of the Settings page, I'll poke Mark to make the corresponding wording change in the Group Creation page.

I did a further search in the archives / messages of this list and
found a post of yours from Feb 27 that said private would allow
members, but not non-members, to view files, so that's what I picked.

Note I said "messages". The Visibility control affects only your directory listing and your messages. Files are controlled in the Features section.

Shal


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