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Re: messages between individuals

J_Catlady
 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:32 am, Shal Farley wrote:
Deb, the OP, asked for an on-site means to _direct_ message from member to member - privacy was not mentioned, and in her follow up she said that idea behind the request was to have a record of the side conversation.
The OP may have requested and meant this, but Shal, do you know of any other situation where "DM" is not synonymous with "PM" - or, to put it in the terms above, where moderators have and can access record of these conversations? I don't know of any. Facebook, Twitter, DM or PM, these messages are private.

I think the OP's request is unusual in the sense that it rarely exists, AFAIK, and as far as other users know, and I'd be surprised if Mark would even consider implementing it, if it includes the means for moderators to see these messages. I think no user would expect that a record of their DM's, or PMs, or whatever they'd end up being called (regardless of whether the word "private" is explicitly used) would be available to moderators. And I think it should not be available.
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Re: how to copy fotos from Yahoo Group to my server

 

As you hover over each picture with your mouse a download link will pop up.

Bruce


Re: Migration questions

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:16 am, Michael Buckley wrote:

Can a group be private and unseen by the community generally, thus only available by invitation.

Yes. Got to Admin->Settings->Privacy and select "not listed in directory, private archives. Under Spam Control select "Restricted Membership." Be sure to save your changes.

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If so what happens if a new "owner" tries to use the same group name?


I believe they will get an error message stating that name is unavailable or previously used. Someone who has actually experienced it could tell you for sure...but they way groups.io sets up URLs and list addresses such duplicate names would cause all kinds of collisions.

Bruce


Re: messages between individuals

 

Deb,

The thought behind my request was that it would be good for us to have
a record of the side conversations in IO.
What kind of record are you imagining?

One thing would be to have an entry in the group's activity log that gives the basic metadata of the message: who and when, and maybe the Subject line. Notably, the existing Private reply mechanism does not do even that: no activity log entry is created.

A much more comprehensive thing would be to have a message list somewhere that includes the content of the messages.

Shal


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Re: messages between individuals

 

Duane, markus,

In that case, a chat could work. If you have a record, I don't see
how it could be considered a Private Message though.
That pesky word "private" again.

Note that Deb, the OP, asked for an on-site means to _direct_ message from member to member - privacy was not mentioned, and in her follow up she said that idea behind the request was to have a record of the side conversation. So complete privacy is explicitly not desired in her use case.

In fact, given her goal none of the existing mechanisms are suitable - except maybe for chat. Direct emails are recorded nowhere except by the individuals involved, and the Private reply feature in Groups.io does not create a record of what was said.

Shal


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Re: Integration with Google Calendar #calendar

 

OK the Sync Just Happened.

So it does work. . One Happy Camper :)


Re: Integration with Google Calendar #calendar

 

Mine has not updated yet and it has been 24 hours.?
Only the initial content was synchronized any changes afterward has yet to replicate.
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I pinged the google support forums to see what they have to say. I will post an update once they reply.

If anyone has other ideas please let me know
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Re: messages between individuals

J_Catlady
 

Yes, I agree. There shouldn¡¯t be records.

On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:45 AM, markus baur <baur@...> wrote:

isnt it the point for going direct email to avoid this records?

the whole point of private messages would be lost they they apprear in the (public) record ..

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Re: Moving photos from one album to another

Carl J¨®n Denbow
 

Let me add one more vote to having this high on the Todo List.? Moving photos from one album to another by the administrator would be very helpful!?


how to copy fotos from Yahoo Group to my server

 

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I want to save a few of the fotos from the Yahoo-Group. Is there a way to copy them individually and upload them on my own server?

Victoria

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Re: messages between individuals

 

isnt it the point for going direct email to avoid this records?

the whole point of private messages would be lost they they apprear in the (public) record ..

servus

markus

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Debra Claffey <debra@... <mailto:debra@...>> wrote:
Thank you for the replies. Yes, we have been emailing directly. The
thought behind my request was that it would be good for us to have a
record of the side conversations in IO.
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Re: Calender

 

I think it's important to note the difference between "Reminders" and "Notifications".? ?In general, I find the "Add Reminder" button to be by far the most flexible method, as Shal suggested.?
Note that the "Send Invite to Group" if checked will send an iCal Invitation immediately upon posting your event.? While this can be helpful, it's also possible that you will receive a bunch of invitation acceptance notices, since it's not simply a notification, it's an Invite.? (I'm actually not sure where any such acceptance notices would go.)
On the other hand, the "Send Notice to Group when Event Happens" button will send a notice (if I understand correctly) at the time and day that the event occurs.? In our case, it's much to late to notify or even remind anyone who cares to participate.? So I generally don't see much use for this one unless someone is just down the hall and needs to be awakened to join a meeting that's just begun.
So we just do a little arithmetic and use the "Reminders" feature to send a calendar reminder at an appropriate lead time before the event, as Shal has suggested.

I do wish that there was a way to pre-set the calendar settings to a default for a group, such as automatically displaying the Week rather than the Month; having a default Reminder lead time, etc.? That was one of the good features of Yahoo - far outweighed by their constant meddling and outages!

Regards, Bill (A relatively new user/owner - just migrated our 165 member group from Yahoo last month, so still learning)


Re: messages between individuals

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 07:58 am, Debra Claffey wrote:
have a record of the side conversations

?In that case, a chat could work.? If you have a record, I don't see how it could be considered a Private Message though.

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Re: Is there another way to start a poll?

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 07:57 am, Marina wrote:
Yes, but wouldn't it be easier and useful to have a Polls tab on the left menu?
Polls can be an interesting and powerful tool per se, I see them as something different from a Topic.

?It was a separate menu item at one time.? Because it's just a 'special' form of Topic, it was incorporated into that part of the menu.

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Re: messages between individuals

J_Catlady
 

I'm all for this and hope PM happens at some point.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Debra Claffey <debra@...> wrote:
Thank you for the replies. Yes, we have been emailing directly. The thought behind my request was that it would be good for us to have a record of the side conversations in IO.



Re: messages between individuals

Debra Claffey
 

Thank you for the replies. Yes, we have been emailing directly. The thought behind my request was that it would be good for us to have a record of the side conversations in IO.


Re: Is there another way to start a poll?

 

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:13 am, Yona Webb wrote:


Hello Everyone,Don's directions:? [ New Topic > New Poll ] worked!Thank you,
Don!Yona
Yes, but wouldn't it be easier and useful to have a Polls tab on the left menu?
Polls can be an interesting and powerful tool per se, I see them as something different from a Topic.

Marina


Re: Migration questions

Gerald Boutin
 

There would be an error message stating about the name not being available.

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Re: Migration questions

Michael Buckley
 

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Shal

Interesting and helpful

Can a group be private and unseen by the community generally, thus only available by invitation.

If so what happens if a new "owner" tries to use the same group name?


Thanks


Mike


On 12/03/2018 01:53, Shal Farley wrote:

FredJ,

> My question is doIneed to do all off the preliminarysetup as ifIam
> setting up a new group in groups.io orwill all of the set-up info
> (Owner, mediators, standard greeting letters, etc) are will of the
> set-up info comeacrossas well?

You need to set up your Groups.io group.

None of the group settings are copied from the Yahoo Group. Nor is the cover image, description, or other home page info.

When you start the transfer process you'll be given a form that asks for the Yahoo Group name, has a drop-list for selecting the target Groups.io group, and a list of checkboxes for what content to copy. Email attachments and Calendar events are two types of content that are excluded from that list.

Some notes about the Membership list - each member's Delivery selection (Individual, digest, etc.) and Posting Privilege (group default, Moderated, Not Moderated, etc.) will be copied along with their Join Date and email address.

One important exception: any email address that is already present in your Groups.io group will not be copied, nor will its subscription info. That means, for example, that if you use the same email address in your owner role in both groups, your "Join" date won't be copied from the Y!Group. If that's important to you then you should promote an alternate email address to owner of the Groups.io group and unsubscribe your primary address prior to starting the transfer.

Myself I didn't bother to be concerned about my join date, nor did any of the Y!Group moderators who I had invited to join the Groups.io group and become familiar with it before we initiated the transfer. We spent a couple weeks exploring the Groups.io group and how its settings work before transferring over the Yahoo Group. Of particular interest are the Member Notices - those play roughly the same role as the scheduled files in Yahoo Groups (notices for Pending, Welcome, Removed, Left etc.).

Your Y!Group co-owners and moderators will copy over as ordinary members. You will need to promote them and set their moderator permissions anew in the Groups.io group.

Another exception is email addresses listed as "Bouncing" in the Y!Group - they will not be copied. It is possible (likely with a group that large) that Yahoo Groups will have made mistakes in determining the Bouncing status of some email addresses. Some of those listed as "Bouncing" might actually be fine. You can invite them to the Groups.io group after the transfer if you are concerned about that.

Also, some of the email addresses not listed by Y!Groups as "Bouncing" will turn out to be bad. Those will promptly become bouncing in the Groups.io group. There's no pressing need to worry about those, the Groups.io's bounce tracking will identify them and set their status accordingly.

Shal




Re: messages between individuals

 

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But these are mailing lists, so one could simply email the person.

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On Mar 11, 2018, at 7:37 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 07:09 pm, Duane wrote:
It's not private or one-on-one though.
In other words, it bears no resemblance whatsoever to a PM. ;p?
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