Re: 2 hour and 11 minute gap in messages yesterday in our group. 42 message numbers missing
This group is publically archived and the number string in the archives for this group appears to be unbroken there so you can use the arhcives to catch up on any posts you missed /g/GroupManagersForum/messages?p=ID,0,,20,1,542,580 Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Bob Bellizzi wrote: Has anyone else experienced a gap like this yesterday or any other time?
Or, can someone give me a possible explanation?
None of our moderators delete messages unless they communicate to the 'senior' moderators first.
Yesterday was a very active day on that board. ?Could the system be counting Drafts that were not completed?
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Hello, yes you can. It is directly under privacy. And for me, it is a pop-up menu. If you are using Windows, it will be a combo box. The reason why it as a pop-up menu for me, is I am using a Mac.
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On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Ary < udxf@...> wrote:
Hi all, When I set up a new group with a publicly viewable?archive, can I revert it later on to a private archive? Ary ?
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Re: 2 hour and 11 minute gap in messages yesterday in our group. 42 message numbers missing
Shal, A member brought it to my attention. ?Found nothing unusual. ?Mark indicated it can happen under some circumstances that the number sequence jumps bot I didn't bother him to elucidate further. ?He did state that outstanding Drafts had no effect. Just one of those unusual artifacts sometimes found in real time software. Bob
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Hi all, When I set up a new group with a publicly viewable?archive, can I revert it later on to a private archive? Ary ?
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Re: 2 hour and 11 minute gap in messages yesterday in our group. 42 message numbers missing
Bob, Has anyone else experienced a gap like this yesterday or any other
time? I haven't noticed a gap, but I haven't gone looking either. Are there any clues in the group's activity logs? Yesterday was a very active day on that board. Could the system be
counting Drafts that were not completed? That could be. If you want to test it in a low-traffic environment without disturbing a "real" group, you're welcome to try making some posts and drafts in my test group. Shal /g/shalstest
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2 hour and 11 minute gap in messages yesterday in our group. 42 message numbers missing
Has anyone else experienced a gap like this yesterday or any other time? Or, can someone give me a possible explanation? None of our moderators delete messages unless they communicate to the 'senior' moderators first. Yesterday was a very active day on that board. ?Could the system be counting Drafts that were not completed?
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Re: Procedure for submitting/approval of Wiki item
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 04:20 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
I think it has been suggested in beta@ that wiki moderation might also be a
good thing.
There's currently a check box at the bottom of a Wiki page when editing for "Only moderators can edit this page." I don't think anyone else would see it. I've set that on a few pages, such as my Group Guidelines. I would like to see Wiki changes moderated though. It was on the Trello list the last time I looked. Duane
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
And to that I also say, sort of :-). Because if there is no delay, there's no information. There's no reliable access to the information.
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On Jul 26, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
J,
Every member of every Grouos.io group knows by the 'M' badge in their
groups list if they're on moderated status. Correct.
They do not know who *else* is on moderated status. Including the info
in the headers would reveal that to them. Sort of.
Joseph's method (looking for a delay) will work just as well on someone else's message as on on your own if you have it in individual mail and can examine the Received: header fields.
A member can't use View Source on the web to do that (alas, or thank goodness, depending on your point of view).
Shal
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Mike, I've had to moderate members because of all this attached junk. Does
anyone know where it comes from and how to stop it? It comes from a long-standing bug Yahoo Mail. If you're seeing this in a Groups.io group, and especially in a reply to a Groups.io message, that's an interesting new tidbit of information. Is your group set to "Plain Text Only"? Shal
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
J, Every member of every Grouos.io group knows by the 'M' badge in their
groups list if they're on moderated status. Correct. They do not know who *else* is on moderated status. Including the info
in the headers would reveal that to them. Sort of. Joseph's method (looking for a delay) will work just as well on someone else's message as on on your own if you have it in individual mail and can examine the Received: header fields. A member can't use View Source on the web to do that (alas, or thank goodness, depending on your point of view). Shal
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 05:53 pm, Bob Bellizzi wrote: The only people who see the groups lists are Moderators and Owners Everyone has access to their own list of groups, members and moderators alike. In that list, every unmoderated group in which the member is moderated in will have an "M" next to it.
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
Everything is moderated here, and that¡¯s fine. I use an Outlook email client and all I have to do is look at the time sent and time received to see if there is an ordinary delay or an unusual delay. Wouldn¡¯t matter which list. ? Some list members use a web mail reader, some use a desktop client. ? Scott Bonacker CPA ¨C McCullough and Associates LLC ¨C Springfield, MO ?
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From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] How to know if a member is moderated? [was: Duplicate Threads - Subject changed and excess quotes trimmed by moderator] Members can still figure out whether on their unmoderated status or not. Especially if you have your account set to receive off copies of messages. It's obvious whenever you know when you sent the message and then the message and then later posted. So nothing can be hidden by that and Lexmark decides to remove the functionality of receiving your own coffee of post. ? ? I think you'd have to look in logs for whether a message was approved by a moderator. This information is not currently included in the header, because that would cause it to be available to all members. Whether of not to include it was the basis of a very recent discussion in beta, with Mark deciding to forego putting that info in the header due to strong feelings by some moderators about not letting all members know which members' messages are moderated and which are not (I.e., who in the group is on moderation and who is not in an unmoderated group).
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
Just proved my point. ?At least 5 minutes and my previous reply to this thread hasn't appeared.
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
The only people who see the groups lists are Moderators and Owners. ?It's a point we might forget because we are so used to having it. I have a couple of psuedonyms with different or no privileges I use to check these things. With one of those I logged in and cannot see the members list for one of the groups I own and also manage.
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Re: Procedure for submitting/approval of Wiki item
Bob,
?Twice I've added a new
page but it isn't showing up in the Wiki at all.
I see two new pages you've added to GMF's wiki:
"
A step by step on how to get online at groups.io the first time"
and
"
Step by step process to get online at groups.io with additional basic
navigation". Both are listed in the "Pages" list
(button at the bottom of the wiki home page.
GMF has a customized wiki Home page; items do not get added to it
automatically (unlike the default wiki page, which is just an Index that
basically duplicates the Pages list). When a group has a page named
"Home" that page replaces the default Index. This allows
customization but also means that one must manually edit the Home page to
add any page links to it.
So, as I said to Janice (in another thread), When you think the topic is
ready to be "published" you can add a link to it on the wiki
home page, or ask me to do that for you. Meanwhile, you can get back to
your page through the "Pages" drop-list.
?I'm probably on the
Moderated list since I notice a delay in my postings
?and that possibly prevents my new Wiki page from
showing.
Nope. Message moderation has nothing to do with Wiki pages. I think it
has been suggested in beta@ that wiki moderation might also be a good
thing. I have requested notification of wiki page updates or creation,
and wait eagerly for the "notifications overhaul" which I hope
will implement that.
By the way, GMF@ is 100% moderated, even my own posts. But that's a
different topic if you care to discuss it.
?How do I make one of our
groups' Wiki public?
In the "Features" section of your group's Settings page (at the
bottom) there's a control for the Wiki. In GMF I have it set to
"Public can view, Subscribers can view and edit". That's the
most permissive setting, the rest are more restrictive.
Shal
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Every member of every group knows by the 'M' badge in their groups list if they're on moderated status. They do not know who *else* is on moderated status. Including the info in the headers would reveal that to them.
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On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Joseph Hudson < jhud7789@...> wrote: [was: Duplicate Threads - Subject changed and excess quotes trimmed by moderator] Members can still figure out whether on their unmoderated status or not. Especially if you have your account set to receive off copies of messages. It's obvious whenever you know when you sent the message and then the message and then later posted. So nothing can be hidden by that and Lexmark decides to remove the functionality of receiving your own coffee of post.
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Re: Help items for general use
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I've had to moderate members because of all this attached junk. ?Does anyone know where it comes from and how to stop it??
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Re: Procedure for submitting/approval of Wiki item
Both of your pages were created, yesterday and today. They won't show on the main page unless you insert links for them. Right now, you can find them by going to the Pages button at the bottom and selecting them from the list. They're named:
Step by step process to get online at groups.io with additional basic navigation (from yesterday)
A step by step on how to get online at groups.io the first time
On your group, you go to the Settings page. At the very bottom, you can set the Wiki options. On here, it's set to "Public can view, Subscribers can view and edit"
Duane
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Re: How to know if a member is moderated
[was: Duplicate Threads - Subject changed and excess quotes trimmed by moderator] Members can still figure out whether on their unmoderated status or not. Especially if you have your account set to receive off copies of messages. It's obvious whenever you know when you sent the message and then the message and then later posted. So nothing can be hidden by that and Lexmark decides to remove the functionality of receiving your own coffee of post.
Joseph Hudson Email I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook Twitter ?
FaceTime/iMessage
I think you'd have to look in logs for whether a message was approved by a moderator. This information is not currently included in the header, because that would cause it to be available to all members. Whether of not to include it was the basis of a very recent discussion in beta, with Mark deciding to forego putting that info in the header due to strong feelings by some moderators about not letting all members know which members' messages are moderated and which are not (I.e., who in the group is on moderation and who is not in an unmoderated group).
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Procedure for submitting/approval of Wiki item
Twice I've added a new page but it isn't showing up in the Wiki at all I may be ignorant but following all of the advice I made both attempts to no avail. I'm probably on the Moderated list since I notice a delay in my postings and that possibly prevents my new Wiki page from showing.
So I need to ask one more question. How do I make one of our groups' Wiki public?
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Shal Farley
Duane