I seem to recall that in Yahoo groups the invitations expired after some amount of time (30 days?). Do invitations for Groups.io groups expire after a particular amount of time or are they good until canceled? I suspect that most invitations that aren't responded to within a day or so can be assumed to be either lost or deleted, but I have had people respond to an invitation as long as 28 days after it was sent.

Do you resend invitations after they haven't be responded to for a certain amount of time? If so what time period do you think is appropriate? It seems that if there is no response after a few attempts you should just forget about that person. How many tries do you make before giving up?

Jonathan

You have an Identity for your Account (site-wide) and each group.? The way I understand it is if you Edit the one for the site, it will 'trickle down' unless you've changed one of the group identities from it's default (as noted at the top of the Identity page.)

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Mark has said on beta that he has backup in place in case something happens to him.? I can't find it at the moment and he hasn't said any more than that that I'm aware of.? Everything else is up to him.

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Thanks. However, I followed what you did, and when I click on Identity this blasted image of Arnold is still there. I removed it, again. Maybe it will be permanent since I got to it in a different way, the one you mentioned.
Stan

I checked my groups. I can see members changing email addresses, adding alias email addresses, unsubscribing via the web (left), and more. This is through the Member Activity tab in Admin, Activity. There is a search box too.

I am assuming that the member wishes to unsubscribe from your group.?
If it is to stop email but keep being subscribed to the group, your member should use Change Your Subscription command in the email footer.?
I changed a member status in my test group (but online) - and I could see that in the Moderator Activity tab.
Hope this helps!

I tried to see what the member would get when they unsubscribe via email. I was brought to the group - it "knew" me already so I didn't log in. There were several options including changing frequency of emails.

Frances

Hi Stan,

I just tested this and it looked okay to me.
I changed my photo for my test group (a pretty flower!)
I sent a test message and looked online. Fine.
I sent a test message to my moderator’s subgroup for the travel sight. It maintained the photo I had already in place - actually me, not a flower.

I changed the photo of myself this way:
Online in my group, clicked on my name (top right).
Clicked on Account.
Clicked on Identity.
Use the Edit button to change your picture for the group you wish to change.
Attach your photo and update group.

Frances

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Go to ‘upgrade.’?

Some time back when I was creating my discussion group that got transferred, I had the funny idea of attaching an image of myself that was not me. I'm referring to the thumb sized images you see of Mark and Shal when you go to the web to view messages. Since I am so ugly I was going to attach an image of some handsome movie star, like Gregory Peck, but since the images are so small I felt it might be difficult for someone who does not know me to realize it was an image of Gregory Peck, and not me. So, I came up with the idea of attaching an image of someone that could not be mistaken as being me. I searched the internet and came up with an image of Arnold Scwharzzeneger in his younger years with muscles bulging and so on. After playing around with the group settings for awhile, before the group was transferred, I decided this was not a good idea and so I deleted the image. Apparently, I did not click on the button that finalizes it. I discovered it was still there and went back and make sure it was deleted about 4 days ago.

However, in attempting to see if a message I had sent to this group early this morning was approved, I went to the GMF site and looked over the messages. I discovered a message I sent to the group that has this muscle bound image of Arnold. It's pretty funny, and I am sure everyone will get a chuckle over it, and so do I, but it seems this is a feature of the IO system that might be improved. I had never expected this Arnold image to be part of messages in other groups. I had expected it to be only in the group I was creating.
Stan

It was said:
"How many employees does Yahoo have in comparison with the very small and very effective staff of Groups.IO which can be counted on one finger of one hand?"

"Also one Saturday evening, Groups.IO went down. I emailed the owner.
In around two hours the problem was fixed. I received an apology as did owners lists and the owner that day was on his last day of vacation in Paris, France. Do you know of any Yahoo stories like that one?"

It is true that one never gets such a response from Yahoo. However, a staff of only one person developing the IO system does concern me. Someone in this group asked if there were any contingency plans if this person should be unable to carry out the tasks he is doing now. There never was an answer. When I was working in State government I became aware (after applying for a job in the computer programming section, which turned out to be over my head) that this section of state government has a system that documents all programming to ensure the programs do not become black boxes. All this documentation involves other individuals besides one programmer. I think it is a time consuming process, but a necessary one, especially in state government that needs to be sure it provides continuous services to the public. My impression is that this is not being done in IO and everything depends on one individual. My impression is, also, that no one knows and understands the system that has been developed by this one individual, and changes made to correct bugs and other things may be done on the fly. It is like me writing my SPSS programs that no one understands. There is no documentation except the syntax and any comments that I may have put in the program. In a situation like this, it would be very difficult for someone to come in and keep things going should the programmer leave, for whatever reason.

In state government, where I worked, the need to cross train to keep vital functions operating was recognized. I do not see any of this happening with the IO system, but then I am not fully aware of how many other individuals are involved that could take over if this one person leaves. I have brought over one group, one that is not that significant to me. I have another group ready to go. This is an important one to me, but I am very hesitant to bring it over and delete the Yahoo group because there never has been any answer to this one member's question of whether there are any contingency plans to keep IO going. I would feel better if I knew more about the support for IO. Is it really just one person that develops and runs the essential functions of the IO system?
Stan


On 3/3/2018 1:00 AM, David P. Dillard wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have been a group owner on Groups.IO for over three years and this was a two day event

or so and this was the first time this has happened since I created my group in October 2014.
...

[lengthy quote trimmed by moderator]

You might go to Admin->Members and click on the user's name, then on their Activity History to see if anything shows up there.?

Bruce

I agree that the activity log's utility is pretty limited; especially so with regard to private interactions between members and owner/moderators. If you have more than one person performing moderation and subscription functions things can become difficult to keep track of.

I suspect the log started out reflecting the capabilities of the GIO system at a certain point in time...as additional functionality has been added it hasn't kept up. It will someday need an overhaul and I'm pretty sure I saw some posts to that effect in the beta group.

Bruce

I'd use the View Source for the messages to see what the headers have to say.? You can follow through them when it was received at various steps to determine where the delay is coming from.

Just a thought - Was your ZIP a self extracting file?? That could be considered an executable file type.

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The good news is that only members will see them.? The bad news is that there's not currently a way to turn them off.

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Any good mail filter will not necessary rely on the file extension as the sole basis for a trojan alert. Without going into details, it occasionally happens that the zip compression algorithm introduces a sequence of hex characters that looks like executable code. You might have more luck sending the file uncompressed.

Many people's email accounts end up spoofed and/or hijacked. So there is unlikely to be any way to whitelist yourself...otherwise the spammers would all do it.

Bottom line is that we all have to live with the occasional false alarm.

Bruce

Shal has requested this in the beta group...see??ff.

Bruce

This is actually a followup on my previous question about turning off email, but I think it might deserve a new topic.
Is there any documentation on the activity log floating around? When a member complained that she had unsubscribed from email several time, I tried to find log entries to reconstruct her activity. Searching on segments of email address, I didn't find much-- her messages from the beginning of time on Y!, but no activities. No record of joining, or subscription changes, but she came in on the transfer from Y! so probably would not expect an entry for subscribing . Would switching email delivery mode show up in the activity log? Or am I not looking in the right way?
Thanks, Marv

Thank you all.

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