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Hello everyone,

I have been a group owner on Groups.IO for over three years and this was a two day event

or so and this was the first time this has happened since I created my group in October 2014.?

Would you like a list of the frequent and severe problems I have had in Yahoo Groups including

losing everything in my original group a year after it was formed, seeing the size of messages

drastically reduced and losing 90% of the groups I had subscribed to in another Yahoo crisis.

One can do what they want, but occurances like the Norton issue are part of the internet and

in my world Yahoo Groups has become vastly inferior and a major source of very serious issues

in many ways in contrast to Groups.IO. Stick with Yahoo Groups and you should get burned

somehow sooner and later.? Also, I have not seen that anyone suffered harm to their Groups.IO

lists during the short period this Norton event happened as opposed to losing lists and memberships

on Yahoo Groups in my case.? Also the Groups.IO problem was caused by outside companies in this

Groups.IO case, but Yahoo problems are almost always issues with its own operations and this now

extends into the Verizon ownership era. How many employees does Yahoo have in comparison with

the very small and very effective staff of Groups.IO which can be counted on one finger of one hand?

Also one Saturday evening, Groups.IO went down.? I emailed the owner.
In around two hours the problem was fixed.? I received an apology as did owners lists and the owner

that day was on his last day of vacation in Paris, France.? Do you know of any Yahoo stories like that one??

During my group owner life, Yahoo Groups has been down for up to days at a time quite a few times and

each time there is a discussion as to whether or not the service has come to an end elsewhere.

Groups is no longer listed on the main Yahoo page, it has now been demoted to listing under the MORE link.

I do not think that the mass migration of Groups from Yahoo to Groups.IO has been caused due to Yahoo

being a superior service that will last for many years to come.? Neither would Yahoo transfer for your group,

all of your Groups.IO content to Yahoo if you wanted to make that change, but the one man band here in

Groups.IO does that in about one week caused by huge demand for this help.

Everyone have a good weekend.


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Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@...

Dave -
Just a comment regarding messages with hashtags. When I transferred over my largest group I found a number of messages with hashtags. That group had never used hashtags. BUT there were several members who used the number sign in subject lines such as "Old #9", which groups.io interpreted as hashtags. Note that hashtags go at the end of a subject so the subject lines were also garbled. I searched for them and found probably a dozen messages with the problem. I was able to edit the subject line to change "#" to "no.", "number" or similar and the problem went away along with making those subject lines comprehensible again. I just toss this out as experience for others who may run into this.

Dano

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 06:30 pm, Lola Radnoti wrote:

you should not have to save a document you already uploaded

If you have a default application set up in your browser for specific file types, the application should open with the file loaded.? About the only file types I can think of that usually don't need to be specifically set up are TXT and PDF.? Nearly anything else will require you to download so you can open it in the application of your choice on your computer.

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Hi,
? I use Norton (Symantec Endpoint Protection 14.0) and have no problems.
My email client is usually Thunderbird.? My ISP for email is small and not
one of?the "main stream" - they use readily available email spam services
that tend to be a bit behind the big names.

? I am guessing that the real problem is the email services that allow
their users to report spam/undesirable emails ... and accept it as a
legitimate report 'the first time' (i.e. without any sanity check).
? To paraphrase an old adage ...

? ?One man's spam is another man's useful emails ...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jim B.

Figured out the answer -- to all my questions. The group is still transferring 18 years of posts, which is allowing lots of photos, files, display settings, etc., to get linked to their proper members. The latest post in the activity log ias number 113554, and it's dated April, '14, so we've got a ways to go. We thought the transfer was complete 3 days ago and it's not.

Thanks for all the input on this. Got me thinking in the right direction.

Dave

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I have always refused to use Norton because it takes over control of your computer.? Everyone who I have come in contact with using Norton have ditched it.? There are plenty of other Anti-virus, Firewall programs out there that do the job just as well if not better without trying to take control.? I only had it for a few minutes because the person uploading a program for me didn't pay attention and didn't uncheck the box asking if you wanted Norton to be installed.

The first time I tried to do something Norton didn't like it tried to block me so I killed it and went back to my previous trusty program and didn't look back.

I have had many systems since but SOPHOS and Avast appear, to me at least the best at the moment.? There are free and paid versions of course of both.

That's my "newbie's" penny's worth, new to this group but not computers, etc.

Cheers. Lola.

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 09:50 am, Harlan Steinle wrote:

It ALWAYS stays at the initial 1921 number.

I just checked and it now shows 1920.? Maybe you were just lucky enough to get one every time someone dropped out?? Have you looked at the Members page to see what it says?

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That's what I needed Dano---MANY thanks.
Harlan

Hello, I am new to Groups.io and have tried to transfer our group from Yahoo with no luck.? I have been trying to upload files to the "Files" section of Groups.io and find that it will upload but when the link is clicked it attempts to go to my computer to locate the file??? How can I get the file to remain on the Server, in other words copy it to the Server from which other members of the group can access?

I did ask the Groups.io support but they referred me to this group.? I did raise this question here a week or so ago but have not found a response.

Your assistance, suggestions (be nice) would be appreciated:).? Thank you.? Lola Radnoti, from "enjoyMichaelStrongStampsgroup".

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 01:44 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:

group access

If it's Group Access, technically no one owns it.? It might say who created it, but that wouldn't really make any difference if others are adding/deleting photos.

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Did you try clearing the cache on your browser?

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:46 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:

One bit of spam shows in one group and the antivirus sites flagged the entire
domain.

It's even not spam. The message is still there:
/g/OHRegionB/message/1538
The phishing warning was a pure false alarm.