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Re: Freezing a Topic but Allowing Reply To Sender

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 02:19 PM, Ken Adams wrote:
Currently if I freeze a topic after reviewing the initial message and finding a sales message, the reply to sender option is no longer available. I don't want to have to require the original sender to include their email address in the message.?
Things can be changed after the fact by editing Topic Properties, but this does not affect header lines in the original post, which has already gone out as emails. Too little, too late.
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What I've done for such single-post announcements is create a hashtag with the Reply-to setting of "Reply Only to Sender." When used, the reply-to line in the message header is correct and the topic is immediately locked; attempts to reply to the group - inadvertent or otherwise - get bounced. As a side benefit, the hashtag allows those who aren't interested in For Sale items to mute them from their mail delivery entirely.
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The key point here is "when used"...many people simply won't apply the hashtag. You can enforce it during moderation, but if you have neither the time nor inclination to do that then you may be out of luck.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Freezing a Topic but Allowing Reply To Sender

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 01:19 PM, Ken Adams wrote:
Is what I want already available in the current group settings
Sort of.? You can change the setting of a topic (NOT message) to Reply To Sender without locking it.? Keep in mind that whatever settings you use on the group, it won't totally prevent folks from getting around it.? Some seem to take pleasure in making things more difficult for moderators.? There has been discussion about having a classified section for a group, but there's been no action taken in several years.
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You could create a hashtag, say #ForSale, that should be used when offering things, but they'd need to start a new topic with it instead of using it in a reply.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Re: Freezing a Topic but Allowing Reply To Sender

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 02:19 PM, Ken Adams wrote:
Currently if I freeze a topic after reviewing the initial message and finding a sales message, the reply to sender option is no longer available. I don't want to have to require the original sender to include their email address in the message.?
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What about moderating posts rather than locking the topic? Set up a canned reply in Notices, Rejected Message and ask the sender to reply directly to the other member. (You can set up a variety of replies for rejected messages.)
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Frances
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Freezing a Topic but Allowing Reply To Sender

 

I am considering allowing limited personal sales by subscribers of my groups subject related personal completed models, surplus kits or model parts with the enforced condition that the members must only reply to sender and complete their transactions outside of Groups.io. Currently if I freeze a topic after reviewing the initial message and finding a sales message, the reply to sender option is no longer available. I don't want to have to require the original sender to include their email address in the message.?
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Is what I want already available in the current group settings or will this require a software modification. I could not find how to accomplish this process described in the documentation.?
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Ken Adams
Plastic Freight Car Builders (PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io)
Owner and Moderator
Re: Different email address in invitation

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 11:25 AM, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
I already have a groups.io account and am owner of one group. I want to set up a new group with a different email address in the invitation, ie not my groups.io account email address.
Any Owner (or a Moderator with proper permissions) can send an invitation. The email address appearing in that invitation depends on who sent it, not who owns the group. If you want a different email address to appear, you will have to subscribe that address to the group, give it the proper permissions, and be logged into that account when you send it.

So potential new members would use the alternative email address to accept the invite.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Please provide a clear statement of what you hope to achieve.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Removing a member

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 11:25 AM, Cal wrote:
What about when there's no Removed member notice, but I fill in the reason for removal??
The reason is written to the Activity Log.
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Bruce
Different email address in invitation

 

Hi,
I already have a groups.io account and am owner of one group. I want to set up a new group with a different email address in the invitation, ie not my groups.io account email address. So potential new members would use the alternative email address to accept the invite.
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Is this possible? If so how?
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Thanks
Re: Removing a member

 

What about when there's no Removed member notice, but I fill in the reason for removal??

From: "Bruce Bowman via groups.io" <bowman46118@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 6:48:40 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Removing a member
On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 11:46 PM, Cal wrote:
Can I remove a member without them being notified?? AFAICT, the manual doesn't cover this.
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From the Owners Manual...
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Removed Member notice

This notice can be sent automatically when a moderator removes a member from the group. To be sent automatically, the notice must be the active notice (set to Active Message). If no Removed Member notice is set to Active Message, none will be sent.

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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Removing a member

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 11:46 PM, Cal wrote:
Can I remove a member without them being notified?? AFAICT, the manual doesn't cover this.
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From the Owners Manual...
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Removed Member notice

This notice can be sent automatically when a moderator removes a member from the group. To be sent automatically, the notice must be the active notice (set to Active Message). If no Removed Member notice is set to Active Message, none will be sent.

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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Removing a member

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 11:46 PM, Cal wrote:
Can I remove a member without them being notified?? AFAICT, the manual doesn't cover this.
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The Owners manual says that if you have an active Removed Member notice, the member would automatically get a notice. Nothing that says what happens if there isn't an active notice. I tested and if there is no notice, nothing happens.
Again, it would be nice if the manual said that!
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Frances
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Removing a member

 

Greetings,

I'm the owner of a group that has a set of requirements for membership.? I'm cleaning house, removing members who have failed to meet those requirements.? There's a possibility that one member may try to retaliate when removed.

Can I remove a member without them being notified?? AFAICT, the manual doesn't cover this.


Re: ISP causing emails not to go through?

 

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Carolyn Henry shares,

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¡°I have two members of our group that can't seem to receive emails.? Each are the only members with the address of @frontier.com and @tds.net.? Is there any sort of known issue with either of those?¡±

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Hi Carolyn,

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I have active, non-bouncing members from the frontier domain.

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  1. As Duane has suggested, check the accounts individual activity to see if e-mails are being sent/received to/from the addresses listed.? Are those e-mails being accepted by the ISP/domain?? One of the most often causes of e-mail not being delivered is typos in the e-mail address/log on/password.
  2. Also confirm your two members are trying to receive e-mails with the correct e-mail address.? Having multiple e-mail addresses is common, make sure they¡¯re attempting to use the correct e-mail address to send/receive (sometimes there are little typos).
  3. Were the accounts active when Groups sent out the ¡°Reverify¡± requests about a year ago?? If there¡¯s an ¡°RI¡± icon there, then the account owner never responded to the request and groups no longer sends to that account.? The user should log on to your groups on groups.io for their membership to be verified and removed from the ¡°please reverify¡± request.
  4. Use the membership list to see if they are bouncing by using the bounce filter¡± against the membership list.? If the either/both of the accounts show there, roll your cursor over the red and blue bounce icons.? A more detailed ¡°error message¡± will show up. Read the fine print for clues.? Many are self-explanatory; ¡°Account does not exist¡±, ¡°box full¡±, ¡°Not our customer¡± are all possible reasons your members aren¡¯t getting their mail. Those should be self-explanatory.? Other notices will mention ¡°policy violations¡± or something similar ¨C often they will include a web address where additional information can be found as reasons to why your member¡¯s e-mails aren¡¯t being delivered.? In the case of situations such as this, the individual member will probably have to work with their ISP/mail host to get the block removed.

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This should get you off to a good start on your detective work.

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Please the group know how this plays out.

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Best regards,

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Steve

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Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA
Re: Viewability of subgroup by parent group members

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 07:03 PM, Cal wrote:
(Mainly, I would like posting privileges from parent group members, but not necessarily receiving or access to a subgroup's posts.)
I believe you can already do that (see screenshot).
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Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Viewability of subgroup by parent group members

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 07:03 PM, Cal wrote:
there ought to be a way to allow parent group members have some privileges in the subgroup.? (Mainly, I would like posting privileges from parent group members, but not necessarily receiving or access to a subgroup's posts.)
Any member of the parent group can be made a member of the subgroup. And subscription preferences can be different for the subgroup - all, digest, summary, no mail, etc.
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Frances
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Re: Viewability of subgroup by parent group members

 

I support this, too.? It's one thing to make the whole group private and not be able to change that - but for subgroups, there ought to be a way to allow parent group members have some privileges in the subgroup.? (Mainly, I would like posting privileges from parent group members, but not necessarily receiving or access to a subgroup's posts.)

Cal

From: "Christos Psarras" <christos@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 6:01:51 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Viewability of subgroup by parent group members

On 2025-01-19 15:37, Frances via groups.io wrote:
I will report it on Beta - Docs, unless you think I am being overly picky!

Not at all, although I would suggest to tweak your suggestion even further to add some extra example and clarifying/explicit text that should hopefully make the public vs private behavioral connection between a subgroup and a regular group readily apparent.

! Important:? Just like in a regular main group where if its archive is set to private it cannot go back to public anymore, after a subgroup has been created with a public archive it can be set to [partially-private or maybe public-private] (that is, viewable by parent group members and subgroup members) or fully-private (viewable only by subgroup members), but a private archive cannot be anymore changed back to a broader audience such as parent group members or public. All you can change is whether the subgroup is listed in the parent group or not.

Cheers,
Christos
Re: ISP causing emails not to go through?

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 04:09 PM, cmhenry wrote:
I have two members of our group that can't seem to receive emails.
Have you checked their Email Delivery History?? That should tell you if the messages are being sent and if they're being accepted by their provider.? It seems that all email services have problems now and then, though some more than others.
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Duane
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Re: Viewability of subgroup by parent group members

 

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On 2025-01-19 15:37, Frances via groups.io wrote:
I will report it on Beta - Docs, unless you think I am being overly picky!

Not at all, although I would suggest to tweak your suggestion even further to add some extra example and clarifying/explicit text that should hopefully make the public vs private behavioral connection between a subgroup and a regular group readily apparent.

! Important:? Just like in a regular main group where if its archive is set to private it cannot go back to public anymore, after a subgroup has been created with a public archive it can be set to [partially-private or maybe public-private] (that is, viewable by parent group members and subgroup members) or fully-private (viewable only by subgroup members), but a private archive cannot be anymore changed back to a broader audience such as parent group members or public. All you can change is whether the subgroup is listed in the parent group or not.

Cheers,
Christos
ISP causing emails not to go through?

 

I have two members of our group that can't seem to receive emails.? Each are the only members with the address of @frontier.com and @tds.net.? Is there any sort of known issue with either of those?
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Thank you,
Carolyn Henry
Re: Viewability of subgroup by parent group members

 

Please do Frances, the extra clarify may help avoid future questions. Just one thing "to allow access to main groups members" has an extra 's' and I would prefer to talk of visibility rather than access - "to allow visibility to main group members".

best, Malcolm.


On 19 January 2025 20:37:03 (+00:00), Frances wrote:

Duane and Malcolm,
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The Help says: ! Important: ?After a subgroup is created, a public archive can be changed to a private one (that is, viewable only by parent group members or subgroup members), but a private archive cannot be changed to a public one. All you can change is whether the subgroup is listed in the parent group.
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The beta update says the same.
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I think it should say "but a private archive cannot be changed to be viewable by a broader audience. Private archives cannot be changed from subgroup members only to allow access to main groups members and cannot be changed to public archives."
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I will report it on Beta - Docs, unless you think I am being overly picky!
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Frances
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Re: Display Name: moderator cannot edit? #displayname #display-name

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 04:30 PM, Christine B wrote:
We have officers, and I add titles to their display names so they can be well identified. I did just that without problem on the Main group.
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My issue is, none of my changes cascaded to the subgroups, and I don't see an option make a change within the subgroup. I don't even see an option to change my own display name in a subgroup.
It sounds like someone else created the subgroup and is thus its Owner. Add yourself to the subgroup, and make yourself an Owner there, too. Having done that, you should be able to make these changes.
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Regards,
Bruce
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