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Re: Privacy

 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 07:59 PM, Sue Hamilton wrote:
One of our members believes his phone number was given to scam artist through Groups.io
Phone number? That's odd. Groups.io does not capture phone numbers at all, unless this person voluntarily provided it somewhere else.
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If this person is putting their phone number in their sig line, they simply need to stop doing it. That's just asking for trouble, no matter where you send your emails.
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Regards,
Bruce
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P.S. At one time, GMF Moderators were removing such contact info during moderation, but it became such a common occurrence that we kinda got sick of it and gave up.
Re: Privacy

 

Adding, Phone numbers are not contained in user profiles, unless the user voluntarily adds it as "other data"

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On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 9:17?PM Larry Finch <finches@...> wrote:
As an owner you can go to Preferences, Settings, Member List Visibility. It should be set to Owners and Authorized others, not to Members.

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On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 8:00?PM Sue Hamilton via <shamilton6=[email protected]> wrote:
One of our members believes his phone number was given to scam artist through Groups.io ?I have yet to receive more details about this, but interested in knowing how I should set up my group to insure no one, excepted approved members, can get in and see our roster.



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Re: Privacy

 

As an owner you can go to Preferences, Settings, Member List Visibility. It should be set to Owners and Authorized others, not to Members.

L

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 8:00?PM Sue Hamilton via <shamilton6=[email protected]> wrote:
One of our members believes his phone number was given to scam artist through Groups.io ?I have yet to receive more details about this, but interested in knowing how I should set up my group to insure no one, excepted approved members, can get in and see our roster.



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Privacy

 

One of our members believes his phone number was given to scam artist through Groups.io ?I have yet to receive more details about this, but interested in knowing how I should set up my group to insure no one, excepted approved members, can get in and see our roster.
Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

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Not so fast.... The first actual use by my cell phone company sending it an email gets me that same error as before... gmail decorates the from address with +caf_

and groups.io rejects it:

510 5.1.1 Your email address, mhcgfx1b9j+caf_=p7j3q9k5=groups.io@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

This never happens with any of my other groups.io groups with gmail forwards! And none of the other groups allow anyone but members to send email to the group AND there are no "aliases" that other posters have talked about.

when I (I'm a group member) send an email to the forwarded gmail (mhcgfx1b9j@...) it gets processed correctly and there are no aliases and the group settings are still "members only can send".

Why is this STILL broken?

I'm back at Witt's End again!

rich

On 10/9/24 2:44 PM, Rich Painter wrote:

Mr Wedge,

that fixed it! thanks for your insightful solution!

regards

rich

On 10/9/24 12:52 PM, Andy Wedge via groups.io wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 08:51 PM, Rich Painter wrote:

What happens next is groups.io rejects the gmail-sent confirmation email reporting one of the following two errors:

1. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, mhcgfx1b9j+caf_=p7j3q9k5=groups.io@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

or

2. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, forwarding-noreply@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

I've just set up email forwarding from a test gmail account I have to Groups.io and it works fine. I suspect the reason that Groups.io is rejecting the confirmation email is because you have not set Allow Nonmembers to Post in your Message Policies.
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As you can see, if you don't have this, messages will be rejected.? When this is set, the confirmation message will be held in the pending message queue where you can view it and click on the confirmation link.? Once that is done, you need to go back to the Gmail account and enable the forwarding. You can also delete the confirmation message from the pending queue.
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Regards
Andy
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Re: How do I DELETE a Sub-Group and all of its parts?

 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 11:25 AM, Lynda Kane wrote:
I only have Pending; Members; Activity; Membership and Preferences.' ???? ther eis settings tab under my account name ,but that only refers to my personal settings. Where is 'settings' please ??
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Expand Prefences and you will see it.
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Also where is it possible to change the group's image on the group home page?
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Admin > Preferences > Cover photo.
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Regards
Andy?
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Re: How do I DELETE a Sub-Group and all of its parts?

 

Also trying to delete a subgroup. But under 'Admin' I only have Pending; Members; Activity; Membership and Preferences.' ???? ther eis settings tab under my account name ,but that only refers to my personal settings. Where is 'settings' please ??
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Also where is it possible to change the group's image on the group home page?
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Many thanks,
Lynda
Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

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Mr Wedge,

that fixed it! thanks for your insightful solution!

regards

rich

On 10/9/24 12:52 PM, Andy Wedge via groups.io wrote:

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 08:51 PM, Rich Painter wrote:

What happens next is groups.io rejects the gmail-sent confirmation email reporting one of the following two errors:

1. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, mhcgfx1b9j+caf_=p7j3q9k5=groups.io@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

or

2. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, forwarding-noreply@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

I've just set up email forwarding from a test gmail account I have to Groups.io and it works fine. I suspect the reason that Groups.io is rejecting the confirmation email is because you have not set Allow Nonmembers to Post in your Message Policies.
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As you can see, if you don't have this, messages will be rejected.? When this is set, the confirmation message will be held in the pending message queue where you can view it and click on the confirmation link.? Once that is done, you need to go back to the Gmail account and enable the forwarding. You can also delete the confirmation message from the pending queue.
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Regards
Andy
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Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

Hi Rich

Forgive me if I misunderstand you but you seem to be berating those in this group who are just trying to help you

This is not a support group of groups.io but rather group owners just like you who are experienced using groups.io

See the groups home page
</g/GroupManagersForum>

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 09/10/2024 18:08, Rich Painter via groups.io wrote:
ok i will try that....
but what I dont understand is that NOW (Condition 2 of my original post:
Re: Strange Behaviour

 

On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 03:22 PM, Bill WT0DX wrote:
When one of the moderators in those groups sends an email message to multiple groups, including these two groups, I never receive the email message in the two groups.? When I go to their respective webpages it's there.? I do receive the email message from the other groups that I'm not an owner of.? This has happened on a consistent basis.
In each group, click open Subscription>Settings and make sure Email Delivery is set to Individual Messages.
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Here in GMF, you're set to Daily Summary. This reflects only new topics. If your Moderators send a message to an existing topic, you will receive nothing.
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If all that seems okay, look at your own Email Delivery History and report back what you find. You'll find that at Subscription>Delivery History.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce
Strange Behaviour

 

I am an owner of two ham radio Groups.io groups.? When one of the moderators in those groups sends an email message to multiple groups, including these two groups, I never receive the email message in the two groups.? When I go to their respective webpages it's there.? I do receive the email message from the other groups that I'm not an owner of.? This has happened on a consistent basis.
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Any ideas what is going on?
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Bill WT0DX
Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

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OK

I will do this later today after dr appointment! This sounds very promising!

thanks

rich

On 10/9/24 12:52 PM, Andy Wedge via groups.io wrote:

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 08:51 PM, Rich Painter wrote:

What happens next is groups.io rejects the gmail-sent confirmation email reporting one of the following two errors:

1. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, mhcgfx1b9j+caf_=p7j3q9k5=groups.io@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

or

2. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, forwarding-noreply@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

I've just set up email forwarding from a test gmail account I have to Groups.io and it works fine. I suspect the reason that Groups.io is rejecting the confirmation email is because you have not set Allow Nonmembers to Post in your Message Policies.
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As you can see, if you don't have this, messages will be rejected.? When this is set, the confirmation message will be held in the pending message queue where you can view it and click on the confirmation link.? Once that is done, you need to go back to the Gmail account and enable the forwarding. You can also delete the confirmation message from the pending queue.
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Regards
Andy
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Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 08:51 PM, Rich Painter wrote:

What happens next is groups.io rejects the gmail-sent confirmation email reporting one of the following two errors:

1. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, mhcgfx1b9j+caf_=p7j3q9k5=groups.io@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

or

2. 510 5.1.1 Your email address, forwarding-noreply@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5

I've just set up email forwarding from a test gmail account I have to Groups.io and it works fine. I suspect the reason that Groups.io is rejecting the confirmation email is because you have not set Allow Nonmembers to Post in your Message Policies.
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As you can see, if you don't have this, messages will be rejected.? When this is set, the confirmation message will be held in the pending message queue where you can view it and click on the confirmation link.? Once that is done, you need to go back to the Gmail account and enable the forwarding. You can also delete the confirmation message from the pending queue.
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Regards
Andy
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Re: Joined group but still can't get it

 

Hello

Yes, that seems to be the problem.
I think I can work out what to do now.
Thanks
Re: Joined group but still can't get it

 

Have you perhaps managed to join that group using a different email address so that you have two accounts on groups.io?

Malcolm.

On 09 October 2024 18:18:42 (+01:00), SafeTex via groups.io wrote:

Hello GMF

I'm pretty sure that I joined a new group on GroupsIO as I have the confirmation email (see extract below)
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But when I click on the link, I end up on their home page and at the bottom, there is the +Join This Group blue button. Also, this group has not been added to the My Groups list, so I can't find a way into it to read posts or start a new topic myself.

Is this me missing something simple or a bug?

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Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

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ok i will try that....

but what I dont understand is that NOW (Condition 2 of my original post: 510 5.1.1 Your email address, forwarding-noreply@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/p7j3q9k5)
groups.io is complaining that the gmail-sent email to confirm mom's new membership is not related to her email but rather forwarding-noreply@....

What you are saying is to log into my mom's groups.io and create an alias of forwarding-noreply@....

That just doesn't seem right either. What alias will I use for another, new group member that I want to forward their gmail to the group? It will report the SAME forwarding-noreply@......

Based on these facts how does ANYONE trying to forward a gmail to a groups.io work at all?

No one has addressed these facts. No one has addressed the fact that I have gmail forwards to some of my other groups that were created long ago do NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM and no aliases and they work fine!

Something bad has happened at gmail and or groups.io that has broken this and no one has addressed this.

Long ago I moved all my goggle groups to groups.io and many had gmail forwards and NONE of them had this problem. Why can't someone explain why this is broken now and how to fix it. I dont have any "alias" for any of all these I setup long ago....

thanks for trying.

regards

rich

On 10/9/24 9:02 AM, Christos Psarras via groups.io wrote:


On 2024-10-09 00:34, Rich Painter via groups.io wrote:
I dont think that will work because the actual gmail is NOTmhcgfx1b9j+caf_ so when the groups.io add confirmation goes out to mhcgfx1b9j+caf_ that doesnt exist!

True -if added to the group as a separate account-, but if you had a paid*** group you could direct-add her so no confirmation email would be sent out. (*** or setup an integration as Bruce mentioned)

But the alias part is no worry, there are no confirmation emails sent to an alias since it's not a regular account but just a nickname, so no group emails or whatnot will ever go to that alias. Aliases just allow someone to post something from a different email address but when posted it looks like it came from the main address, not the alias. All group messages (if this account was setup to receive them) would go to the main address, not the alias.


I dont know how to create an alias. I did some searching but didnt find it.

That info would be in the User manual, not the Owner manual, it's in here. You need to be logged in as her, go to the upper right of screen where the account settings are, all the way down click on Aliases, add the address and save.

Cheers,
Christos
Re: Joined group but still can't get it

 

Yes, I see the link takes you to main page. It does seem odd.?
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Have you tried the other button on that page - Log In if you are already a member. That doesn't seem to show if you are already logged into Groups.io ?(or at least for me). I tried with a private window and then I see that button.
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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Re: Is this worthy of worry? The Future of .io Websites Is Uncertain

 

Despite the article at the attached link n the OP's post, if anything like what's suggested in the article should come to pass, I'm betting that Mark Fletcher is aware of that and likely already has a plan in place for such an eventuality.

Just my 2? worth . . .

Paul M
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Joined group but still can't get it

 

Hello GMF

I'm pretty sure that I joined a new group on GroupsIO as I have the confirmation email (see extract below)
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But when I click on the link, I end up on their home page and at the bottom, there is the +Join This Group blue button. Also, this group has not been added to the My Groups list, so I can't find a way into it to read posts or start a new topic myself.

Is this me missing something simple or a bug?

Thanks
Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

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On 2024-10-09 00:34, Rich Painter via groups.io wrote:
I dont think that will work because the actual gmail is NOTmhcgfx1b9j+caf_ so when the groups.io add confirmation goes out to mhcgfx1b9j+caf_ that doesnt exist!

True -if added to the group as a separate account-, but if you had a paid*** group you could direct-add her so no confirmation email would be sent out. (*** or setup an integration as Bruce mentioned)

But the alias part is no worry, there are no confirmation emails sent to an alias since it's not a regular account but just a nickname, so no group emails or whatnot will ever go to that alias. Aliases just allow someone to post something from a different email address but when posted it looks like it came from the main address, not the alias. All group messages (if this account was setup to receive them) would go to the main address, not the alias.


I dont know how to create an alias. I did some searching but didnt find it.

That info would be in the User manual, not the Owner manual, it's in here. You need to be logged in as her, go to the upper right of screen where the account settings are, all the way down click on Aliases, add the address and save.

Cheers,
Christos
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