Re: After 6 days, still no transfer from yahoogroups
A fellow named Ken with a steam group posted yesterday that his transfer began at 6 days, 9 hours, so you should be on the cusp. Let us know when yours is complete for one more milestone.
David
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Re: Groups.io logos, nomenclature, etc.
There is no comparison as far as I'm concerned.
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My group was approved in about 10 minutes so unless there is some other issue you should get it soon.
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Hey Everyone,
Now that my group is approved, I am trying to add members. This is a new group and I am not transferring from Yahoo, but adding members one at a time. I sent an invitation to a team member and to a test email. Neither went through and it has been over 24 hours, I also went back and checked the box to resend the invite, but still nothing. Am I doing something wrong or does it take multiple days to invite a single new member?
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Re: Is there a way to run my Yahoo group and groups.io simultaneously
#transfer
I have left one of my yahoo groups open, and the odd person still posts there. ?In fact, if I have a lot of picture type jokes, I send it to the yahoo group instead of incurring excess mb¡¯s on .io. There is no interaction between the .io group and the yahoo one, both have the same name.
Cherrill A hundred years from now, it will not matter the sort of house I??lived in,?what my bank account was, or the car I drove? .... but the world may be?different, because I was important in the life of the animals and the creatures?on this earth.??
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There shouldn't be any problem using both sites.? Please remember that once the transfer is done, new messages on the YG won't be copied to the group.
Duane
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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io
Jim,
? I've been saving the unsubscribe notices/e-mails and after a month may just send a follow-up notice in case they did exactly what you said.
ken
"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row
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On 2018-02-20 07:35, Jim Betz wrote:
Ken/all,
? Another possible explanation is that they see the invite from groups.io
? ? ? ? ?===> and treat it as spam.
If you don't read the invite it's easy to reach the "what's this?" state
and follow it with a conditioned response to "just delete" (opt out).??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:07 am, Shal Farley wrote:
LOL, I know this isn't you, but the mental image of you drumming your fingertips reminded me of it:
Haha just seeing this now! ? -- J
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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io
On 2/20/2018 12:20 AM, J_Catlady wrote: These are probably people who didn't even remember they were in the group and, when given an explicit opportunity, were reminded of it and made a clean break. It's very unlikely that they quit because of the move. I know first hand that members in one group I belong to quit because of the move. They thought they had been added to a new group, that they did not request be added to, not related to the yahoo group they belong to. They said this in email messages in the yahoo group (before it was shut down). Again, this gets to the ability to unsubscribe to the IO group with lightening speed in the welcoming message that I mentioned in a message days ago and just now again in a response within the past half hour. Stan [excess quote trimmed by moderator]
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You don't have to use hashtags at all.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote: Hi,
? The only negative I find about is the introduction of the hashtags !??
But then, I'm an old man with all the baggage that goes with that.
? Groups.io is?
? ? ? Always there
? ? ? Easy to use
? ? ? Easy to manage (nothing to do!)
? ? ? Better than YG was on its best day ...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.
P.S. If you are still on the fence about moving from YG ... Just Do It!
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Re: Is there a way to run my Yahoo group and groups.io simultaneously
#transfer
There shouldn't be any problem using both sites.? Please remember that once the transfer is done, new messages on the YG won't be copied to the Groups.io group. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Receiving gifs, jpgs and creations in emails -html
I have no idea if this will help you but here goes.? I just started my group on Sunday so I'm new also and don't want to waste your time.
Somewhere in the settings (might be photos) is an option to change the size of the attachments. I had to set mine as 'keep original size'.
Our group exchanges Incredimail Stationery and also gifs and pngs etc and the stationery was coming through with the images much smaller than they should have been.
I went in and looked around.? I set that to 'keep original size' and it worked.
Not sure if this will help or not.
Loopy
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:21 am, Ruthie Levi wrote:
? i have gotten spoiled by the very fast replies to my queries! & trust me, some of my questions have been quite mundane & obvious
Me, too. I meant to add a comment like that to my own "testimonial." Mark always responds politely and immediately to my "bug reports" (sic) explaining, when it turns out that I've done something stupid and there's no bug, things like "Hi, J, I see that you unmoderated that person this morning, which might explain why their message didn't go through pending" or whatever. I can't count how many times I've had to write back, "Thanks, Mark! D'oh!" ? -- J
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Hi,
? The only negative I find about groups.io is the introduction of the hashtags !??
But then, I'm an old man with all the baggage that goes with that.
? Groups.io is?
? ? ? Always there
? ? ? Easy to use
? ? ? Easy to manage (nothing to do!)
? ? ? Better than YG was on its best day ...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.
P.S. If you are still on the fence about moving from YG ... Just Do It!
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:21 am, Ruthie Levi wrote:
i think at 5000 we shud throw a virtual party here!
I agree! And speaking of which, it is a testament to Mark *the person* that he and his product have garnered such strong support among transferees. To all the people here expressing doubt, I think that augers well for the company. ? -- J
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:23 am, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
To the contrary, my experience is that yahoo has responded to problems I have had and members have had. It was only after the neo change that it became more difficult to get help.
You don't know that my timeframe was the same as yours. But if you're happy in Yahoo, no need to move! ? -- J
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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io
Ken/all,
? Another possible explanation is that they see the invite from groups.io
? ? ? ? ?===> and treat it as spam.
If you don't read the invite it's easy to reach the "what's this?" state
and follow it with a conditioned response to "just delete" (opt out).??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.
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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io
Don,
This is something I have also thought about. I wonder how many actual members I have due to members that are already gone (new email address) and not taking the time to unsubscribe, or dying (this happened in my group to an individual I personally knew). I sort of cringe at what my actual membership may be. I might actually be 30%, like yours, of the membership stated in YG's.
Stan
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On 2/20/2018 12:07 AM, Don wrote:
I experienced many people leaving our group too, but I knew that was going to happen. About ever four years I would purge the group to get the true number of members in the group, as I¡¯ve found out our membership numbers get falsely inflated over time. People come and go all the time, and a lot leave without unsubscribing. The last time I purged the group I started with about 280 members, and by the time the purge was done we had about 85 real members. By the end of February I¡¯ll know the true number of members we have, and I¡¯m guessing we¡¯ll end up with around 85 again. In another 3 to 4 years I¡¯ll do it all over again.
Don
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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io
Maybe this is related to the confusion, that I mentioned in a previous post, of members mistakenly thinking they had been added to a new group they did not request a subscription to. As I also mentioned, it is too easy in the welcome message to unsubscribe (just click on the highlighted word or words). I had earlier suggested removing this ability, but apparently this suggestion has been rejected. On thinking about this some more, I remember that some people might be reluctant to be part of a group they know nothing about - their email address might be used for commercial purposes, for example. However, at this point they are already part of the group. So, instead of making it so easy to unsubscribe at lightening speed, why not
a) make it clearer that they are being transferred from the yahoo group (maybe even name it) and to either contact the owner of the IO group to be removed (and the welcoming message could contain the email address of the owner), or
b) instead of this link in the welcoming message to instantaneously unsubscribe, just provide a link to the new group web site. They can then scroll down the the page and find the email address to unsubscribe.
Again, they are already in the group when they get the welcome message. So what would be the problem of them taking a little more time to unsubscribe? By having to take a little more extra time to unsubscribe, they might finally understand the situation, or if the welcoming message is modified according to option 'a', then the owner could more better explain what happened. The suggestion has been made that an email message could be sent out informing the members of the yahoo group about the transfer and to not unsubscribe (unless they really want to). I had already done this for the small group I am waiting to be transferred. However, first, remember that since this is yahoo and we know about all the problems yahoo is experiencing, maybe not all members will get the message. Second, since the transfer is taking a week, two weeks, maybe even a month or months, I'd bet that some of the members in my larger group I want to transfer to IO will have forgotten the message informing them of the transfer and informing them not to unsubscribe.
Stan
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On 2/19/2018 11:43 PM, SP4149 wrote:
Within seconds of getting the rush that your group has finally, successfully transferred, you start getting messages from members of the old YG list who have immediately quit the new list (unsubscribed)
This is disappointing, after the frustration of waiting for the transfer to complete, to have old list members quit without even investigating the new list. At this point I will change the YG list to not allow new members or new posts. But there is this impulse to remove these instant unsubscribers from the old YG list as well. Make it a complete sweep on both lists...
*ken*
"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success." *Steinbeck - Cannery Row*
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On 2/20/2018 12:50 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
After the move, everything started to run smoothly. People were finding us more easily than before and we grew more rapidly. And, of course there were all the new and amazing features - some of which, unbelievably, I requested from Mark myself, and he responded and added them! The slightest problem, I email Mark and he responds immediately. This was after the experience in Yahoo groups where nobody responds, ever.
To the contrary, my experience is that yahoo has responded to problems I have had and members have had. It was only after the neo change that it became more difficult to get help. It became harder and harder to find the help screen so I could state my problem and eventually it disappeared. They later created this discussion group where owners can share experiences and resolve problem, I assume, which did not help me much. As it is now, I have no support from yahoo. The other problem I have are disappearing messages and messages being delayed for days before getting them. I think some of this, or maybe all of it, may be a problem with my internet provider, but some of it may be yahoo. I don't know. One member does not like to get messages and so he reads new messages from the group web site and responds from the web site. He continually complains that a lot of times the messages he sends gets lost in never never land. Stan
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a question & a bit of advice
for those who ask about how to handle ur old YG, with regard to new members¡we shut down the ability for new members to join, which causes an email to the ¡°owner¡± email address when the person attempts to apply for membership, so in this way, we still capture the person¡¯s interest & can redirect them to the new IO group. ? at its height, how many YGs were there? IO now has 4653 groups. i enjoy watching the counter go up on new groups created daily. i think at 5000 we shud throw a virtual party here! ? ruthie levi ?
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