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Re: Accessing group website from email links

 

Only the parts that are publicly accessible.? That pretty much limits it to messages, calendar, or the Wiki, if they're set up to be public.? Don't forget that as long as you don't log out, you can quickly go to a page for 30 days (per device) until it will ask you to log in.

Duane
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Re: Photo Albums - Searching and Sorting

 

Hi Duane,

Many thanks for that link. It does give me a good feeling that I can see everything is being tracked. This is like a breath of fresh air compared with the werid way that Yahoo! dealt with issues for Groups by allowing users to vote on them and then provide no actual support.

Regards

John Russell

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Accessing group website from email links

 

Is it possible to access a group's website features from links that are included in the bodies of email messages, without manually logging in?

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Re: Messages marked at SPAM #issue

 

He'd need to check with his ISP to see what, if anything, they'll do.? As Rachel mentioned, marking them as Not Spam or moving them to the Inbox may eventually stop it, but that depends on what the ISP has set up.

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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

 

Thank you so much - this worked awesomely! ?
I had a hunch you guys would come through with a solution much faster than I would.

What I did was use find/replace to change ¡°Display Name¡± to ¡°First Name¡±, ¡°Last Name¡±?
then I had to add in another field to the header line to account for the additional field in the csv

Here is the blow by blow:
Download the membership list (it listed the csv data on the web page I was using)
either save to a file OR select all & copy/paste to a text file (both ways worked)
cut out the header data line of the csv & save it somewhere (like in another text file)
use find/replace to change all spaces to comma quote comma (,¡±,)?
go get that header line and paste it back in
edit the header to add in the new field (I changed Display Name to First Name and added ,¡°Last Name¡±, )
save the file
in Numbers (excell) I just opened the csv file and it worked

I¡¯m just giddy over this - our group is a quilt group. I¡¯m 60 & one of the youngest, they have been razzing me for months about my sign in sheets sorted by first name - boy will they be surprised at our next meeting!!


Re: Messages marked at SPAM #issue

 

i think a member is only removed when they delete the spam messages from the spam folder.
If he moves the spam messages into his inbox and then deletes them he should be fine.

He should also be able to click the "not spam" link in his email to stop this from happening.

I had this happen to a member with an AOL email address who is on two of my groups.

Rachel


Messages marked at SPAM #issue

 

One member repeatedly has groups.io?messages marked as spam. He's aware the problem must stem from his ISP, but is there any way to whitelist him here so he's not continuously removed? It's happened at least a dozen times so far....


Re: A Transferred Attachment

 

Thank you, Shal, for explaining this. With viruses still spread in email attachments, none of my public lists allow attachments. And for simplicity I have resisted HTML vigorously. (The colors and fonts people choose are horrendous.) A few years ago I relented on HTML for about 2 weeks because there were so many people who wanted to format their messages.

Suddenly ¡°attachments¡± appeared. I couldn¡¯t figure out how people had gotten them attached. Huge pictures, etc. I dropped the HTML and got no arguments, but I¡¯ve never understood what happened.

The same thing is true in Apple Mail. I often search messages for an attachment and suddenly, not all messages with ¡°attachments¡± are marked with the paperclip. It¡¯s now undependable.

Sharon
Sharon -
I too had similar concerns about HTML. I have one group with a number of older members who have their default screen displays set to certain fonts and sizes, and screen colors set to their preferences for readability. On the other side of the coin, members are now used to having photos accompany discussions as Facebook does. I have been a big advocate of groups.io's plain text messages, but still allowing attachments. It lets everyone keep their own preferred views and still share photos, And as you explain, it keeps out a lot of undesirable stuff.

The other thing I was an advocate for was letting individual users set their own maximum size limits for accepting attachments. Some users are still on dialup, while others have very fast connections, so users can set things for themselves, and see a link instead if they prefer.

I think you'll find a lot of unique features here on groups.io because of Mark's desire to work with users to make things better. That synergy makes groups.io so much more user friendly than other platforms. I think this is why new users say it's so much better here, but can't quite describe why.

Dano


Re: Site Updates - How Does He Do It! #testimonials

 

Just my thoughts here -
Having moved several groups (and yes, I go back even to 1-List, before egroups :>P? ) -
the "backlog" that is happening now is much more because of the major issues in YG - and that's not anything that Mark can control (though he's working his butt off to accommodate it).
One group I moved was a year ago, and I've not seen much "hit" on support from Mark even with this Yahoo crunch. Another group I moved (I'm the web master of this chapter of an organization, so the decision of when to move was not mine; they did get scared enough last fall to begin the search and decision process and we were well into it when Yahoo started the death spiral last month. I'd scheduled the move with Mark several weeks earlier; then we felt that we needed to go sooner in order to get out intact. I asked him about moving it up, and we were out within 2 days.

While I'm sure that the Yahoo debacle is taking its toll on things, neither am I seeing a major negative impact other than being personally worried about Mark.
Ginny


On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:36 am, Barb M wrote:
If we move here to escape the ridiculous amount of down time at Yahoo Groups, will we run into the same thing as groups.io growth explodes? (BTW, I'm old enough to have used egroups way back when.... even then we were sad when Yahoo took it over.)


Re: New Member message when joining a group

 

You can make your own in the Member Notices. That's what I have done in all of my groups. System sends it out when there is a request to join; I don't act on the request unless and until they reply to it.
Ginny


Re: Minor Question

 

Shal,

On 2/17/2018 1:36 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
Stan,

Also, when I was exploring what all the options were for the uploaded
cover image (by right clicking on the mouse) one of the options I
clicked on wiped out the customized Windows background color.
Oops.

As far as I know Groups.io never overrides the right-mouse menu, so whatever menu you saw there was provided by SeaMonkey or your operating system. So nearly anything's possible at that point.
When I right clicked I had seen a set of choices I had never seen before and so it seemed to me these were choice provided by groups.io. From what you are saying they are not. If I get the ambition I can create a test group, do a right click and then get a screen print to display what they are.
Stan


Re: A Transferred Attachment

 

On Feb 17, 2018, at 4:26 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Speculation on my part, but maybe it wasn't an attachment.

cid: - a traditional attached image file
http: - a "remote" image hosted somewhere on the internet
data: - an inline image file
Thank you, Shal, for explaining this. With viruses still spread in email attachments, none of my public lists allow attachments. And for simplicity I have resisted HTML vigorously. (The colors and fonts people choose are horrendous.) A few years ago I relented on HTML for about 2 weeks because there were so many people who wanted to format their messages.

Suddenly ¡°attachments¡± appeared. I couldn¡¯t figure out how people had gotten them attached. Huge pictures, etc. I dropped the HTML and got no arguments, but I¡¯ve never understood what happened.

The same thing is true in Apple Mail. I often search messages for an attachment and suddenly, not all messages with ¡°attachments¡± are marked with the paperclip. It¡¯s now undependable.

Sharon
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Wikispaces Refugees #wiki #wikispaces

 

Given the impending shutdown of Wikispaces.com and the paucity of info and discussion about migrating a Wikispaces wiki to another site, IvI' created the group as a potentially helpful forum for Wikispaces Organizers.


Re: A Transferred Attachment

 

Don,

I've read many posts that state attachments are the one thing that is
not included in the transfer of a group from YG, but I found one in
our recently transferred group's Emailed Photos album.
Cool! I've been wondering about this.

Clicking on the blue Messages button under the picture, took me to a
2012 post associated with the picture. If one attachment made the
transfer I wonder why all the attachments can't?
Speculation on my part, but maybe it wasn't an attachment.

You don't say what you mean by "associated with", but if the photo was an image inline in the HTML message body there are at least three forms it could take:

cid: - a traditional attached image file
http: - a "remote" image hosted somewhere on the internet
data: - an inline image file

If you can still access that message in the Y!Group it came from, looking at the View Source there may tell you what type this was. You'd be looking for something of the form <img src="cid:....">

"cid" means content identifier, and that's used when the image file is located in an attachment to the message. This type of image I would expect not to have been copied over, because it is an attachment.

"http" means a web file - the image isn't attached to the message but is instead loaded from some web server somewhere. This type of image I would expect to come through fine, but not end up in the Emailed Photos Album - I'd be amused to know if it did.

"data" means that the file is encoded right there, inline in the HTML of the message body. This is the case I think might be in your message. In which case if you look at the view source you'll see a large (or large-ish) block of base64 encoded data in the message body. Because this was not an attached file, but data in the message body itself I would expect it to copy over intact.

Looking at the View Source at Groups.io might not answer the question. I think images get special treatment when posted or transferred in and that would likely invalidate the evidence.

Shal


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A Transferred Attachment

 

I've read many posts that state attachments are the one thing that is not included in the transfer of a group from YG, but I found one in our recently transferred group's Emailed Photos album. Clicking on the blue Messages button under the picture, took me to a 2012 post associated with the picture. If one attachment made the transfer I wonder why all the attachments can't?

Don


Re: saving updates to calendar

 

Bob,

If I enter a recurring calendar event, then go back and edit it and
use the UPDATE ALL option, only the event I am updating gets updated.
Is it fixed now? There were or are apparently some problems with recurring events...


If you're still having a problem with it you may want to report the specifics in your own message to [email protected]

Shal


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Re: Minor Question

 

Stan,

When I re-uploaded it again, it would not display in SeaMonkey. I now
have to go to FireFox to see it as well as all the images I uploaded
for the subgroups I created. What did I do that caused it not to
display in SeaMonkey?
I've never used SeaMonkey, so I really don't have a clue, but could the page simply need to be refreshed?

Or might you have somehow blocked SeaMonkey from loading images from AWS (Amazon Web Services) - the "cloud" service Groups.io uses for photo and file storage? The cover image on GMF comes from an address that begins:
...
So you would want to check that servers in the domain amazonaws.com aren't blocked.

Diagnostic question: in SeaMonkey do you see GMF's cover photo, or that of any other Groups.io group? If not, you've probably blocked AWS.

As an aside, how can I make a cover image the same size as the
Elephants image?
Use a photo editing tool to crop it to a 3:1 aspect ratio, and make sure it is saved at 900 x 300 resolution or larger.

Also, when I was exploring what all the options were for the uploaded
cover image (by right clicking on the mouse) one of the options I
clicked on wiped out the customized Windows background color.
Oops.

As far as I know Groups.io never overrides the right-mouse menu, so whatever menu you saw there was provided by SeaMonkey or your operating system. So nearly anything's possible at that point. Best to keep the finger-guards on when playing with power tools.

That menu may well have provided the means to block images from Amazon...

Shal
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Re: Is the link to prompt new members for a sassword not working?

 

Anne,

When you visit groups.io for the first time, you will be prompted by a
link that will ask you to set up a password.
One of the factors that is often left unsaid is how the person got to groups.io. If they just typed in that address, or followed a plain link to Groups.io nothing special happens. There's just a page describing the service and links in the upper right to Log In or Sign Up.

Clicking through a link in an email notice from Groups.io is different. Those messages that arrive because you were transferred in, Invited, asked for an email log in, or you sent a +Subscribe command, etc. often have special links. Such links often have landing pages tailored to the purpose of the notification.

But to answer the member's question:

Do I need to login/sign up as an individual to access Freecycle via
this new platform?
To access members-only content of the group, yes. To just receive and post messages by email no (but then there would have been no need for you to click on a link either).

Shal


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Re: Question about pricing differences

 

Looks like those are two different plans with differing storage.? Sometimes Mark will make changes to things, but grandfather in existing groups, too.

Duane
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Re: Photo Albums - Searching and Sorting

 

Only Mark knows what the priority is on projects and he usually doesn't say anything (on beta@) until he's ready to try something out.? There are items that may be implemented shown on the TODO list, such as

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