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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?

 

Chats are like temporary subgroups.? Most folks use them as an IRC for a discussion that doesn't need to be on the group.? Anything posted there isn't sent out as an email.? Only one of my groups has them enabled because that's the only one that has a use for them.

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Two Levels of moderation

 

In the main group one can set it up so that a new member is moderated for x number of messages. In my situation I chose the 2 message option. For a subgroup, the Settings also have an option for moderating new members. I again chose 2 messages. My question is this:
If I have it set up so that a new member has to be moderated for the first two messages in the main group, and the same for a subgroup,
1) does a member have to pass the subgroup new member criteria even though the member passed the main group criteria,
2) or is it the case that a member has to pass the subgroup criteria only if the member never submitted two messages to the main group to pass the main group criteria?
Stan


Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

 

I think the easiest way would be to use a simple text editor that has a Replace function to do it manually.? (I'm not familiar with Mac, but Windows has Notepad that will do it.)? Open the file with the text editor, delete the first line, use the Replace function as you said to replace all of the spaces with the "," and save the file.? Then load it into a spreadsheet and do your sorting/printing.

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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?

 

p.s., also in Settings one option for Chats is 'Chats is disabled'. If Chats are the same as messages, why would an option exist to disable it since messages are the basis of discussions and a discussion is the basis for the existence of groups.io? I must be missing something here.
Stan

On 2/15/2018 8:58 PM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
In the link you provided
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group
the table lists Chats as a Feature and has a check mark for each of the three columns (Basic, Premium, and Enterprise). If Chats are the same as Messages and messages have no space limit (as stated at the end of the table) then instead of a check mark for Chats it should say 'Unlimited' like they do for some of the other features. So, by my way of thinking, either Chats are different than messages, or check marks were mistakenly entered for Chats instead of saying they are 'Unlimited'.
Stan


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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases

 

If you're loading information into the database, then you'll need to set Edit Rows to Members for them to be able to change it, but they will be able to edit any row.? They can only edit rows they've entered with the 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner' choice.? I think you may have an in-between situation that isn't fully covered.

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Site Updates - How Does He Do It! #testimonials

 

I was looking through just 'some' of the Site Updates Mark reports on, and I don't know how he finds enough hours in a day to keep this site running. Between fixing Bugs, Changes,?SYSADMIN, New, Internals, Security, Beta, and anything else involved in keeping Groups.io running, not including all the Transfers of groups to here, makes me glad I'm retired! From what I've read, it appears he does this all by himself too. If Mark is making any money doing this, he surely deserves it.

Don


applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

 

applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

Mac user here.

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I manage a 100+ member group.? We have monthly meetings and I use the members ¡°download¡± option to generate a sign in sheet for the meetings. ?

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We require members to use their real first and last names as their Display Name.? The problem is, this is one field and when I load the csv file into numbers it puts the first and last name in one field.? I can then only sort by first name.? This is causing chaos at our sign in tables!!!

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Here is a sample of the csv file?(I've bolded what I want to change)

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"Email","Display Name","Username","Joined","Status(0=Normal,1=Pending,2=Banned)","Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)","Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Digest,2=Special,3=None)","Message Selection(0=All,1=Follow Only,2=Follow Only And First)","Auto Follow Replies","Mod Status(0=None,1=Moderator,2=Owner)","User Status(0=Not Confirmed,1=Confirmed,2=Inactive,3=Bouncing,4=Bounced)"

"xxx@...¡±,¡±Jane Doe¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1

"xxx@...¡±,¡±Rodger Rabbit¡±,¡±±·¾±²µ³ó³Ù°¿·É±ô²õ","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,2,1

"xxx@...","Thomas Jefferson¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/10/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1

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If I can get the csv file to look like this, I can sort by last name in numbers:

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"Email","Display Name","Username","Joined","Status(0=Normal,1=Pending,2=Banned)","Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)","Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Digest,2=Special,3=None)","Message Selection(0=All,1=Follow Only,2=Follow Only And First)","Auto Follow Replies","Mod Status(0=None,1=Moderator,2=Owner)","User Status(0=Not Confirmed,1=Confirmed,2=Inactive,3=Bouncing,4=Bounced)"

"xxx@...¡±,¡±´³²¹²Ô±ð¡±,¡±¶Ù´Ç±ð¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1

"xxx@...¡±,¡±¸é´Ç»å²µ±ð°ù¡±,¡±¸é²¹²ú²ú¾±t¡±,¡±±·¾±²µ³ó³Ù°¿·É±ô²õ","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,2,1

"xxx@...","°Õ³ó´Ç³¾²¹²õ¡±,¡±´³±ð´Ú´Ú±ð°ù²õ´Ç²Ô¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/10/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1

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I know how to fix this.? Write a script to do the following:

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ignore the first row.

for every subsequent row change all spaces to ¡°,¡±? .

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BUT, I¡¯ve never written a script!? I¡¯ve poked around and figured our it will be in AppleScript using the Script Editor.? I¡¯ve found some tutorials (did an easy one) and think with time (lot¡¯s of time!) I could work it out BUT if someone has already done this could you share your code with me?

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Regards, Gina


Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?

 

In the link you provided
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group
the table lists Chats as a Feature and has a check mark for each of the three columns (Basic, Premium, and Enterprise). If Chats are the same as Messages and messages have no space limit (as stated at the end of the table) then instead of a check mark for Chats it should say 'Unlimited' like they do for some of the other features. So, by my way of thinking, either Chats are different than messages, or check marks were mistakenly entered for Chats instead of saying they are 'Unlimited'.
Stan

On 2/15/2018 8:26 PM, Duane wrote:
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 07:00 pm, Stan Gorodenski wrote:

I see messages themselves are not counted toward the storage
limit, but it appears Chats are.


Chats are no different than messages. I don't see anything saying otherwise?

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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases

 

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Duane,

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Thanks a lot for that information. I made those changes, and we¡¯ll dee how that works. If it doesn¡¯t work right, I can always reload my backup to the dbase.

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Don

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 5:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Who Can View And Modify Databases

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On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 04:33 pm, Don wrote:

Add Rows= Moderator and table owner, Edit Rows=Members

Looks like you're nearly there.? I think you'll want to change that to Add Rows=Members so each member can fill in a row (or more).? Then you'll change Edit Rows to 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner'.? That would allow each member to change their row(s), but no others.? Allowing Members to edit rows will allow them to edit any row, not just theirs.

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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 07:00 pm, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
I see messages themselves are not counted toward the storage limit, but it appears Chats are.

Chats are no different than messages.? I don't see anything saying otherwise?

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Re: Wiki - Status Badges on the Members List

 
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Nancy,

i added a ¡°colored box after members name¡± to wiki. Could someone
complete/correct the actions needed for me?
Ok, I've started to fill it in a bit. I'll post again, and link to it from the home page when I've completed a first pass at it.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

Firefox has a new feature, you can grab screen captures in the browser without needing other tools - makes it convenient to copy graphics from one page, like those badges in the members list, then paste them directly into the Wiki page.

I'll bet you can use it when composing messages (on site) too.

Shal


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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?

 

Duane,
Thanks for the link. I see messages themselves are not counted toward the storage limit, but it appears Chats are. What is the difference between a Chat and a message?
Stan

On 2/15/2018 4:00 PM, Duane wrote:
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

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Re: Messages not always emailed #issue

 

Norm,

I created a message to my trial group. The first time I posted
it, the message showed up in my site message list, but did not
go out as an email.
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Thanks. It was not in spam. I was also asked to allow it and the
sender first.
I'm confused by this. You were asked by your email service? If your email service asked you to allow the message and sender then it must have actually been sent out by Groups.io.

Shal


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Re: Can't invite

 

Stan,

I attempted to invite [email protected] to a yahoo discussion group,
but I get a message that says "Sorry, an error occurred while loading
the content."
To combat the uncertainty over whether the invitation was actually sent or not, the transfer agent started sending an acknowledgement to the Y!group's -owner address. Given the backlog, the acknowledgement may arrive days ahead of the transfer agent accepting the invitation.


I believe "content" is the [email protected] email address I entered
in the dialogue box to invite members.
I think actually that error message usually refers to the content of the scrolling area of the page. In the case of an Invite it would likely have been the results list that it couldn't load, which would ordinarily replace the fill-in forms.

Will [email protected] respond to a personal email message to join?
Not yet, but it is being considered. See Mark's reply I cited above.

Shal


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spoofing

Marvin Hunkin
 

Hi. The group owner is over 18, in his early 30s. okay, see if one of the admins, could block his static or dynamic ip address.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Will past it on.

Thanks.???????????????



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Re: re delayed message

 

Your message to this group came so there must be something odd about your group setup or your email.?

Are you sending an email or posting from your group site? If email, are you sending to the correct address?

Very puzzling.?

Frances


re delayed message

 

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I sent a message to my group 12 hours ago, it has not yet appeared on the web site nor in my In Box.
I thought that once I was away from Yahoo, delayed messages would be a thing of the past... lol..
How can I find out what caused the delay... other private emails I sent at the same time were delivered... and there has been new messages (from other people) in the message list since? sent mine.
Win


Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 04:33 pm, Don wrote:
Add Rows= Moderator and table owner, Edit Rows=Members
Looks like you're nearly there.? I think you'll want to change that to Add Rows=Members so each member can fill in a row (or more).? Then you'll change Edit Rows to 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner'.? That would allow each member to change their row(s), but no others.? Allowing Members to edit rows will allow them to edit any row, not just theirs.

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Re: spoofing

 

Marvin,

Or is locked down moderated status the way to go.

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The potential for mischief, and worse, by way of spoofing is one of the stated reasons that Y!GMF has always had a 100% moderation policy.

On the other hand, spoofing someone else's address has become more difficult, and rarer, in the last 10-15 years or so as most email services have tightened up their policies regarding sending messages with an alternate From address. But a person intent on mischief most likely can still find a way.

I don't know to what extent Groups.io's incoming message process is locked down against spoofed messages, but I don't think I've seen any myself in any of my group's Pending or Messages. There are techniques to cut down on spoofing (such as SPF and/or DKIM authentication) but the more of that Groups.io does the more it runs the risk of rejecting legitimate members' messages.
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This is cyber bullying.

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Whenever minors are involved the group's moderators need to be particularly vigilant about message content. If a moderator him/herself is a minor that's a difficult position, as then he/she is generally exposed to whatever comes the group's way. Same as the minor's email address.

Shal


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Re: re wiki

 

great so some of things want to bring over from group i can put in there and save on storage that very good news as ive got a lot of files would like to bring and may i say i LOVE all the help get here
jackiep

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...> wrote:

Hi

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I think it is like a webpage where you can put information that can be useful to the group, it is like a website in itself.

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Regards

Adrien

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Skype with me on adriencollins06

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From: [email protected] [mailto:GroupManagersForum@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jackie Preval via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 February 2018 22:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] re wiki

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if you set up a wiki page to store something does that mean it then doesnt take space up on group so keeps your storage down, may sound silly but wasnt sure what wiki was for
jackiep




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