Is the link to prompt new members for a sassword not working?
This from one of my members:
Hi Anne,
Thanks for doing this! I tried to do this, as suggested:
- When you visit??for the first time, you will be prompted by a link that will ask you to set up a password.? This will allow you to view the message archives online, regardless of your email address.
But when I clicked on the link, I wasn't prompted to do anything. Do I need to login/sign up as an individual to access Freecycle via this new platform?
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Do subgroups require hashtags if main group does?
#hashtags
At least, that seems to be the case in a sub group I created. Is there a way around that?
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I just got a response from the individual. He never saw a '+subscribe'. Yet, the correct email address that contains the '+subscribe' is in the original message (I looked in Sent Mail) I sent him to try subscribing. I don't know what happened. This is an example of where I should have verified everything with him first before I posted this to the group. He is a very astute person and I cannot imagine how he did this.
Stan
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On 2/16/2018 11:06 AM, J_Catlady wrote: The bounce messages says his email to [your group]@groups.io <> was rejected, not [your group][email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. I would find it extremely hard to believe that he sent it to the +subscribe address yet the bounce refers to the group address. I'd almost say it's impossible.
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Re: Hiding Subscriber Email Address?
Ken, Is anyone familiar with a setting within the admin or subscriber
settings for a subscriber to hide their return Email address. Groups.io has no equivalent to the Y!Groups option: Hide Email: |_| Allow members to hide their email address from the group which allows members to hide their email and IP addresses. My initial reaction is to suggest setting up an alternate web based
email account (you can have multiple Google accounts) and using that
email for groups.io or other social media. That's probably his/her best option. Choosing Gmail will hide their IP address so long as they post via the Gmail web interface. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:06 am, Barbara Byers wrote:
if someone is still sending emails to the original group name, so Arizona-Astronomers@...?will that email still go through to the main group?
Yes, either address will go to the main group. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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The bounce messages says his email to [your group]@ was rejected, not ?[your group]+ [email protected]. I would find it extremely hard to believe that he sent it to the +subscribe address yet the bounce refers to the group address. I'd almost say it's impossible.
That's what it looks like, but in my message to him I copied the subscribe address and rechecked my original message to him to make sure I had it correct (I did a ctrl+C in the group web site and so did not type it letter by letter). It's worth checking this out with him. He is astute enough not to delete the '+subscribe' part of the message, but maybe his email software did it somehow.
Stan
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Just asking a dumb question about the naming of the groups, once you create a subgroup - is there a reason the name of the original group has to change when you create a subgroup?? In the example below, the email addy becomes [email protected]?(before he changed the name) from [email protected]?when a subgroup is created.? My question would be, does that have to happen?? Another related question, if someone is still sending emails to the original group name, so Arizona-Astronomers@...?will that email still go through to the main group?
It seems like another way to be confusing if I have JUST told my members the email address for the group is one thing, and then it changes once you create a subgroup.
Sorry to be so confused.
Barb B
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On 2018-02-16 12:08 PM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
p.s., it occurred to me that IO might be treating the main group as a subgroup. I had previously changed [email protected] to [email protected] and it is listed in the group site as the main group. Could IO be getting confused about this? Stan [excess quote trimmed by moderator]
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Re: Hiding Subscriber Email Address?
There's not currently a way to hide it in posts that go out by email.? There has been some discussion on beta@ about having anonymous groups where this would be possible, but nothing has been done yet.? It's no worse than the way YG is. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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That's what it looks like, but in my message to him I copied the subscribe address and rechecked my original message to him to make sure I had it correct (I did a ctrl+C in the group web site and so did not type it letter by letter). It's worth checking this out with him. He is astute enough not to delete the '+subscribe' part of the message, but maybe his email software did it somehow.
Stan
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On 2/16/2018 10:21 AM, J_Catlady wrote: Looks like the member sent the email to the group itself, not the +subscribe address.
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Hiding Subscriber Email Address?
Is anyone familiar with a setting within the admin or subscriber settings for a subscriber to hide their return Email address.? I had this question raised by a new subscriber who felt groups.io software was compromising their privacy.?
My initial reaction is to suggest setting up an alternate web based email account (you can have multiple Google accounts) and using that email for groups.io or other social media.
Ken Adams
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Looks like the member sent the email to the group itself, not the +subscribe address.
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...> wrote: I asked one member of the yahoo group to try joining the IO group to see what happens (yesterday I sent a message to [email protected] to move the members to the new group but this has not been done yet). I asked him to send an email to join using the following address
Arizona-Astronomers+subscribe@Arizona-Astronomers.groups.io
The message below is what he got. He couldn't join. He said his confirmation email was rejected. Does anyone know what could have happened?
Stan
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Subject:? ? ? ? email issue
Date:? ?Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:43:09 -0700
From:? ?
To:? ? ?Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...>
Stan,
My confirmation email was rejected. Tried forwarding it but your server rejected it for the .eml attachment. See below:
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
? Arizona-Astronomers@Arizona-Astronomers.groups.io
? ? host [173.255.221.194]
? ? SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
? ? 510 5.1.1 Your email address,[I deleted this email address for confidentiality]? is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email toArizona-Astronomers+subscribe@....io, or visithttps://
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p.s., it occurred to me that IO might be treating the main group as a subgroup. I had previously changed [email protected] to [email protected] and it is listed in the group site as the main group. Could IO be getting confused about this? Stan
On 2/16/2018 9:58 AM, Stan Gorodenski wrote: I asked one member of the yahoo group to try joining the IO group to see what happens (yesterday I sent a message to [email protected] to move the members to the new group but this has not been done yet). I asked him to send an email to join using the following address
[email protected]
The message below is what he got. He couldn't join. He said his confirmation email was rejected. Does anyone know what could have happened?
Stan
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Subject: email issue
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:43:09 -0700
From:
To: Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...>
Stan,
My confirmation email was rejected. Tried forwarding it but your server rejected it for the .eml attachment. See below:
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
[email protected]
host lb02.groups.io [173.255.221.194]
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
510 5.1.1 Your email address,[I deleted this email address for confidentiality] is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email [email protected], or visit
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I asked one member of the yahoo group to try joining the IO group to see what happens (yesterday I sent a message to [email protected] to move the members to the new group but this has not been done yet). I asked him to send an email to join using the following address [email protected]The message below is what he got. He couldn't join. He said his confirmation email was rejected. Does anyone know what could have happened? Stan
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: email issue Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:43:09 -0700 From: To: Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...> Stan, My confirmation email was rejected. Tried forwarding it but your server rejected it for the .eml attachment. See below: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [email protected] host lb02.groups.io [173.255.221.194] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 510 5.1.1 Your email address,[I deleted this email address for confidentiality] is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email [email protected], or visit
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I primarily use SeaMonkey as my internet browser. I have the most recent version but sometimes it does not display a web site correctly and I have to go to using FireFox.
When I created the new IO group I did it in SeaMonkey. I uploaded am image to take the place of the default Elephants image. It displayed in SeaMonkey. Then I did some more fiddling around with the settings and deleted it. When I re-uploaded it again, it would not display in SeaMonkey. I now have to go to FireFox to see it as well as all the images I uploaded for the subgroups I created. What did I do that caused it not to display in SeaMonkey? As an aside, how can I make a cover image the same size as the Elephants image?
Also, when I was exploring what all the options were for the uploaded cover image (by right clicking on the mouse) one of the options I clicked on wiped out the customized Windows background color. It reverted to the yukky gloomy default Windows background color. I had to go back and recreate the color I like. It also wiped out the custom cursors for the mouse. I had to go back and recreate them. I was surprised that IO would modify my Windows settings for features that are not part of the IO group. Does anyone know what happened here?
Stan
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Re: New Member message when joining a group
On Friday, February 16, 2018, 10:47:01 AM EST, Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...> wrote:
Since we are on the subject, in YG's I get a message that pops up that a?
member wants to join. Then I can approve or disapproving their joining.
If I approve, then they go through one or more messages before I take
them out of moderation status. If I know who they are, I can take them
out of moderation immediately after I approved their joining the group.
Does IO work the same way? Specifically:
1. Does a message pop up that someone wants to join or does the
owner/moderator have to go to a specific place to find out if anyone
wants to join, and
2. Can the owner/moderator see any comments the person may have written
in the email message to join? Based on the the comments in the Beta
group discussion I would assume the answer to this is no.
Hi Stan, Yes to number 1 and there is no little note like on Yahoo Groups. So your assumption on number 2 is correct. Paul, Ohio, USA
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Re: Wiki - Status Badges on the Members List
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:47 am, Walter Underwood wrote:
The red ¡°B¡± for bouncing is one of the few features that is not accessible to color-blind admins. Maybe change that to an ¡°X¡±? I know at least one person with monochrome vision, and those would two colors of grey background.
That would be a good suggestion to make on beta@.? I know Mark is always interested in improvements for accessibility.
The ¡°NuM¡± definition should explain the number after it.
That's explained in the detailed information below that section under Override: new user moderated
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Frances said?? < Are you sending an email or posting from your
group site? If email, are you sending to the correct address?> I am sending an email from my email program, and yes it had the
correct address.
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Shal said < Could it be in the group's Pending
list?>
Emails are not moderated
in my group because all members are known to me.
Norm said < This
is similar to what happened to me. Except I was asked to moderate the post. I
did moderate it, but it did not show up for days.
I went over my email
settings and changed my personal settings to default. They had been set to
override. Since then, two messages that I wrote before the change are still in
the ether. I'm going to unite the problem unless it happens
again.>
That
particular email never showed up, it is 27 hours
now.
My personal email setting is Default.
I re-sent it and it appeared a few minutes later, and
other emails from me to my group have all turned up in a timely manner.
It turns out though that I never received another email
that someone else sent to the group, I saw it on the homepage messages... so it
is quite possible there is a problem with my Windows Live Mail.
I am having a LOT of problems at the moment because my
neighbour had a satellite broadband dish installed last week, and it seems to
over-ride MY wireless network. While I am detecting her signal in my Network
Connections list, it is impossible for me to do ANYTHING on the internet
successfully... web pages take more than a minute to load...
trying to download my emails times out at 5 minutes without being able to
download anything... if I am watching something on YouTube, it has to buffer
about every 40 seconds... downloads and uploads stop in the middle.
Once her network disappears from
the list, everything returns to normal... so I guess that my delayed mail
could have been caused by this, I was trying to send it while her
connection was visible.
?
Thanks for the suggestions...
Win
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Re: Wiki - Status Badges on the Members List
The red ¡°B¡± for bouncing is one of the few features that is not accessible to color-blind admins. Maybe change that to an ¡°X¡±? I know at least one person with monochrome vision, and those would two colors of grey background.
Also, my browser shows a stray bit of color following the blue box on the definition for ¡°Owner¡±.
The ¡°NuM¡± definition should explain the number after it.
Otherwise, looks great. Very helpful.
wunder Walter Underwood wunder@...http://observer.wunderwood.org/??(my?blog)
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On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Shal Farley < shals2nd@...> wrote:
Hi Nancy, Ok, I've substantially fleshed it in, and changed its title to Status Badges on the Members List. I've also added a link to it in the Best Practices for Group Management section of the wiki home page. Everyone is encouraged to proof-read it to be sure I haven't messed up the descriptions or forgotten something of importance. It would be great if it were checked for consistency in fact and terminology with the Help page and with messages about these badges both here in GMF and in beta. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: New Member message when joining a group
Since we are on the subject, in YG's I get a message that pops up that a member wants to join. Then I can approve or disapproving their joining. If I approve, then they go through one or more messages before I take them out of moderation status. If I know who they are, I can take them out of moderation immediately after I approved their joining the group. Does IO work the same way? Specifically:
1. Does a message pop up that someone wants to join or does the owner/moderator have to go to a specific place to find out if anyone wants to join, and
2. Can the owner/moderator see any comments the person may have written in the email message to join? Based on the the comments in the Beta group discussion I would assume the answer to this is no.
Stan
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On 2/16/2018 7:14 AM, Duane wrote: It's not currently available, but is on the TODO list,
It was brought up again on beta@ a couple of days ago because of the many questions about it here, so Mark is certainly aware of the importance to some people. A simplified version may be added,
Duane
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