Re: TA-members list messages cluttered

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Hi Christos
The first member to complain about this problem said it had been going on for about a month, so before Mark made the change mentioned on the Beta group.

I've asked the members who are getting corrupted messages for some background to see if there is a common point, as well as senders of messages that gets corrupted.? If it throws up anything I'll share.
Steve M

Re: TA-members list messages cluttered

#44535

Interesting this popped-up again, we had another instance of it recently, /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/some_subscribers_have_issue/100278090, and Outlook (routing at least?) seems to also be involved there.

I wonder if the change Mark did here in the headers,  may had been intermittently causing this.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: TA-members list messages cluttered

CHRISTINE SHUTTLEWORTH

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Steve M. wrote:

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>I have also been made aware that some people on a list I moderate are having the same problem - an example is below, hopefully with personal info hidden.? The actual message is in bold.

Yes, this is exactly the sort of thing I have been getting.

Christine

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Re: TA-members list messages cluttered

CHRISTINE SHUTTLEWORTH

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Thanks, Duane. I’m new to this group and appreciate all tips and suggestions.

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Just to clarify, so far I’ve received two messages in the format in question, from different senders.

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Christine

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 05:38 AM, CHRISTINE SHUTTLEWORTH wrote:

Recently I have found some messages from the TA-members list arriving in my inbox with full internet headers and other unwanted garbage included.

I'd suspect it's the email program of the person that sent the message.? You'll need to get more information to be certain.? You could post some of it here, but be sure to remove anything that may identify a specific individual.

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Re: TA-members list messages cluttered

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I have also been made aware that some people on a list I moderate are having the same problem - an example is below, hopefully with personal info hidden.? The actual message is in bold.

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Hi,

We have quite a list of aircraft (Cessna, Piper etc) of which we lack the c=
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Re: TA-members list messages cluttered

#44531

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 05:38 AM, CHRISTINE SHUTTLEWORTH wrote:

Recently I have found some messages from the TA-members list arriving in my inbox with full internet headers and other unwanted garbage included.

I'd suspect it's the email program of the person that sent the message.? You'll need to get more information to be certain.? You could post some of it here, but be sure to remove anything that may identify a specific individual.

Duane
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TA-members list messages cluttered

CHRISTINE SHUTTLEWORTH

#44530

Recently I have found some messages from the TA-members list arriving in my inbox with full internet headers and other unwanted garbage included. Other messages from the same list have been arriving as normal.

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Have others had this experience, and what can be done about it?

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Thanks, Christine

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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44528

Two most common ones, internet provider don't like it ,OR, the person receiving, assume spam and mark as such,?

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On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 6:02 PM Bruce Bowman <bowman46118@...> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 06:11 PM, Califdan wrote:

...if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.
I agree it appears odd on the surface, but in fact it makes total sense. By marking a legitimate mailing list message as spam, you've essentially told Yahoo that you don't want receive any more "messages like this." Yahoo in turn informs , who dutifully complies with the request and removes you.

See??for more details.

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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44527

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 06:11 PM, Califdan wrote:

...if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.

I agree it appears odd on the surface, but in fact it makes total sense. By marking a legitimate mailing list message as spam, you've essentially told Yahoo that you don't want receive any more "messages like this." Yahoo in turn informs groups.io, who dutifully complies with the request and removes you.

See??for more details.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44526

Califdan,

The last line in Christos' note is the most important because if the non-spam is just moved to in box, the email system will continue to mark any other emails as spam until it is "Taught" that they are not spam. This may take a few iterations depending on how many were marked as spam.

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On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 06:12:30 PM EDT, Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:

The majority of online email providers (including Yahoo) have the Delete and Spam/Junk button right next to each other so it's easy for someone to accidentally hit the latter when they meant to just delete the message.? So make sure to tell that person to check their spam/junk folder and if they see a message from groups.io there to mark it as not-spam/junk.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44525

Thanks all for your guaidance.??

I did, in fact look that the Onwers Manual, as well as the Members Manual, but the sections on handling spam didn't answer my quesitons.

thanks again

Dan

Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44524

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 05:11 PM, Califdan wrote:

if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.

Yes, but that's the way many email services are set up.? Some, I think Yahoo is one, even tell members to mark things as spam if it's from a list they don't want to be on any more.

Duane
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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44523

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The majority of online email providers (including Yahoo) have the Delete and Spam/Junk button right next to each other so it's easy for someone to accidentally hit the latter when they meant to just delete the message.? So make sure to tell that person to check their spam/junk folder and if they see a message from groups.io there to mark it as not-spam/junk.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44522

Califdan,

The person who reported it as spam may not know that their email client marked it as spam and the marking as spam may not have been in software in their PC.?

Their ISP may have been the culprit here and will need to be the one to remove the filter which marked it as spam. (I also do not see anything spam-like if the message.)?

Duane is spot on with; "Lots of detailed information can be found in the?Owners Manual?and?Members Manual."

Put

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On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 04:56:14 PM EDT, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 03:43 PM, Califdan wrote:

I'm very confused here.? Who posted the culprit message?? Who reported it as SPAM?? and who was removed from the group.?

Someone (you) posted the message, the person that received it marked it as spam, and they were removed from the group.? (Note that they marked it as spam, not that it necessarily was.)? They would have received a followup email letting them know and there's a link in it to resume membership.? If they did that before you looked, they'd still show as a member.? All covered in the site FAQ.

Duane
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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44521

Thanks Duane.? ?

Sorry to be poorly informed, but if I understand you correctly, if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.

Dan

Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44520

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 03:56 PM, Duane wrote:

Someone (you) posted the message

Sorry, it was Sanja that posted it.

Duane
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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

#44519

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 03:43 PM, Califdan wrote:

I'm very confused here.? Who posted the culprit message?? Who reported it as SPAM?? and who was removed from the group.?

Someone (you) posted the message, the person that received it marked it as spam, and they were removed from the group.? (Note that they marked it as spam, not that it necessarily was.)? They would have received a followup email letting them know and there's a link in it to resume membership.? If they did that before you looked, they'd still show as a member.? All covered in the site FAQ.

Duane
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Member removed due to SPAM

#44518

Hi,? I recieved an email that a member of my group was removed from the group due to SPAM.? However, the email I got referenced? a message with title "hello and Introduction" which is my welciome message to new members.?
Here's the email I got....

This is to notify you that wolfganggries@... has been unsubscribed from your group [email protected] because message Hello and introduction! was marked as spam. Note that this may have been done by their email service provider, not by the individual member personally. They've been given a link that lets them quickly resubscribe, in case this was an error.

If you have any questions, please visit our help center.

When I checked the "activity" in the group,? I see is this......

When I look at message #1788, (below) there is noting SPAM like in it and the Poster is not the person mentioned in the emial I got.

I'm very confused here.? Who posted the culprit message?? Who reported it as SPAM?? and who was removed from the group.?

the "Wolfgang...." email does not show up in my members list
"Sanja Kelly" still shows up as a member

Re: Thread Reply: @ sign being replaced by an = sign

#44517

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:34 PM, Memo Saenz wrote:

I have had a few members' email addresses have the "@" sign replaced by an "=" sign.

That's normal for anyone with an email address on a service that uses DMARC.? It also adds "via groups.io" as you can see.? Using the normal reply button in the email avoids this because the Reply-To: header has the real email address.

Duane
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