Good news!? This has been fixed per the latest Site Updates, "BUGFIX: Database table searches could return results from other tables in the same group."
Duane
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Re: All Posts Need Approval
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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 10:10 pm, Tammi McKinley, CPM wrote:
So every new member is moderated? There¡¯s no way to remove that? ?Thanks so much.?
No, that's not true in every group. I was answering the OP. His group is set to "new users moderated." You can have that set in your group or not. You do have to set at least one of the three "spam control" settings to yes: eithe restricted group, or new users moderated, all users moderated, or announcement-only group. But you can choose which one(s) you want. ? -- J
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Re: All Posts Need Approval
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So every new member is moderated? There¡¯s no way to remove that? ?Thanks so much.?
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Re: Numbering of Transferred Messages
It may be that no one has noticed this happen yet. So much is new to all. Terry
On Friday, February 9, 2018 5:49 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:
I never got an answer to this. Should I send it to another list? Sharon > On Feb 8, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sharon Villines < sharon@...> wrote: > > When messages are transferred, they appear to have the same dates but to have the numbers changed. Right? Any reason why? > > If two lists are combined, what happens to the numbers. Are messages always sorted by date so the number doesn¡¯t matter? We would like to combine 2 large lists and a couple of smaller lists. > > Sharon > ---- > Sharon Villines, Washington DC > > "Save Our Planet. It's the only one with chocolate." > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Editing or updating files transferred from YahooGroups
There is no online editor for files, you have to download to edit.? Then you have to delete the existing file before uploading the changed file unless you change the file name.? Duplicate file names aren't allowed.? It will look like it's uploading, then give an error message.? There are changes planned according to the TODO list, but no time frame.
I suspect those files with the weird content were some that couldn't be copied due to a Y! error.? Only Mark would know for sure.
Duane
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Editing or updating files transferred from YahooGroups
1,892 (!) files from our old YahooGroup were transferred yesterday.? Unfortunately, we cannot edit any of them.? We can update the file's (short) text description, but cannot find a way to edit the body of the file itself.?? The vast majority of the files are plain text. 1) Is there any way to edit the text of a file in group.io, and 2) If not able to directly edit a file, is there a way to replace the document with a newer version upload, so that instead of creating a new file and deleting the old, you can simply update the existing file? Further, in some of the bodies of the plain text files we see only a line like this below, no plain text at all.? Can anyone advise?? I couldn't find an answer in the Help pages or FAQ. Thank you, --Paula
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Re: Way off topic, I think
Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:36:51 -0800, "Anne =^..^=" <anne.hardman@...>, wrote: I got this response from a member of one of my groups when I announced the switch to groups.io .? " Do you know that Group.io is a domain from Indian Ocean?? Aren't there any USA or Canada or England supported domains that we can use?"
I haven't a clue how to answer that.
Anne Tell the person to put groups.io into Google and to tell you what s/he finds. Arno
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
Thanks for the suggestion to change the Welcome letter to be specific for current members who are being transferred, then update it later for new members when they join.
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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 10:03 am, SP4149 wrote:
What I didn't do and should have; was change the Welcome letter to reflect the transfer rather than what it had been telling new members that they were moderated and needed to explain why they wanted to join the group.? Only about 5-10% who hadn't been paying attention were confused by the Welcome letter, but it could have been avoided.? After the transfer, post an updated Welcome letter for new members who weren't from the old YG list.
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Re: Numbering of Transferred Messages
I never got an answer to this. Should I send it to another list?
Sharon
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On Feb 8, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:
When messages are transferred, they appear to have the same dates but to have the numbers changed. Right? Any reason why?
If two lists are combined, what happens to the numbers. Are messages always sorted by date so the number doesn¡¯t matter? We would like to combine 2 large lists and a couple of smaller lists.
Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington DC
"Save Our Planet. It's the only one with chocolate."
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Re: Way off topic, I think
Well, perhaps they may be interested in Mark Fletcher, the man behind Groups.io.
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and his "old pretentious" page!?
If they have ever used Bloglines (I have) for RSS feeds, they have used another product from Mark.
And he developed ONElist that eventually turned into YahooGroups!
Frances
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Re: Way off topic, I think
I'd send them a couple of links and let them figure it out...
Duane
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Re: Way off topic, I think
Well simply research it on Google and give her an answer.
On 9 February 2018 at 15:36, Anne =^..^= <anne.hardman@...> wrote: I got this response from a member of one of my groups when I announced the switch to .? "Do you know that Group.io is a domain from Indian Ocean?? Aren't there any USA or Canada or England supported domains that we can use?"
I haven't a clue how to answer that.
Anne
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I got this response from a member of one of my groups when I announced the switch to groups.io .? "Do you know that Group.io is a domain from Indian Ocean?? Aren't there any USA or Canada or England supported domains that we can use?"
I haven't a clue how to answer that.
Anne
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12 years ago the owner of our group went AWOL after appointing me a moderator with virtually no powers. (Cannot change the welcome message. Someone here had suggested to changethe Yahoo welcome message to send them to the IO group.)
After a few eMails ,Mark transferred everything over without any problems.
Mark's personal involvement is amazing.
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Arno
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
I also explain in my group's welcome letter some of the differences between yahoo groups and (for former Y!G members) and how to login, etc.
Lisa,
? Once YG let [email protected]?become a moderator,the process was very smooth.? However I had created the group last July and didn't transfer until this January.? I already had a couple of hundred members who had joined the new group in anticipation of a YG? collapse and a move to ? What I didn't do and should have; was change the Welcome letter to reflect the transfer rather than what it had been telling new members that they were moderated and needed to explain why they wanted to join the group.? Only about 5-10% who hadn't been paying attention were confused by the Welcome letter, but it could have been avoided.? After the transfer, post an updated Welcome letter for new members who weren't from the old YG list.
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
On Feb 9, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Paula <disi@...> wrote:
Lisa, our 19 year old YahooGroup just migrated to Groups.io. I was very nervous about how our members would react to the move (we're mostly older people), but it turned out my anxiety was for naught. It was an almost seamless transition and our members got the hang of things very quickly. I agree. It¡¯s transparent. Instructions will just make it sound scary and difficult. The only thing is explaining the password thing. But don¡¯t bring it up until someone asks. All that information up front will just deaden everyone's mind. Sharon ------ Sharon Villines, Washington, DC "As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row." The Covert Comic
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
Lisa,
? Once YG let [email protected]?become a moderator,the process was very smooth.? However I had created the group last July and didn't transfer until this January.? I already had a couple of hundred members who had joined the new group in anticipation of a YG? collapse and a move to groups.io? What I didn't do and should have; was change the Welcome letter to reflect the transfer rather than what it had been telling new members that they were moderated and needed to explain why they wanted to join the group.? Only about 5-10% who hadn't been paying attention were confused by the Welcome letter, but it could have been avoided.? After the transfer, post an updated Welcome letter for new members who weren't from the old YG list.
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"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row
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On 2018-02-09 07:25, Paula wrote:
Lisa, our 19 year old YahooGroup just migrated to Groups.io.? I was very nervous about how our members would react to the move (we're mostly older people), but it turned out my anxiety was for naught.? It was an almost seamless transition and our members got the hang of things very quickly.
It helped that Yahoo's problems hastened the move; we rely heavily on database tables and files and the fact that we couldn't access them for much of the last month or so helped give them the oomph they needed.? I didn't have anything formal written, just a few posts here and then letting them know what was coming.
--Paula
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On Friday, February 9, 2018, 10:13:35 AM EST, Barb M <barbm68@...> wrote:
"I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact." =============================
May I suggest that you transfer everything that you can and then rebuild by adding or deleteing. That way you will have less work in downloading and transferring. I've read that message transfer & file transfer is spotty when taken from Verizon/Yahoo. You will also have less risk in Verizon/Yahoo getting worse.
Using PG Offline, it took me 2 or 3 tries to get files and even then I had to go back and manually download some. My message count was correct as were my photos & links. Of course YMMV and you will have to do some checking.
A month ago I downloaded a group of 600 members with 40,000+ messages and everything worked perfect, then Verizon/Yahoo's service kicked in and now everything seems to be in limbo, depending on how you hold your mouth. This last refers to a good friend's take on fishing, "Getting a lot of bites depends on how you hold your mouth."?
On Friday, February 9, 2018, 10:13:35 AM EST, Barb M <barbm68@...> wrote:
"I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact."
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
Lisa, our 19 year old YahooGroup just migrated to Groups.io.? I was very nervous about how our members would react to the move (we're mostly older people), but it turned out my anxiety was for naught.? It was an almost seamless transition and our members got the hang of things very quickly.
It helped that Yahoo's problems hastened the move; we rely heavily on database tables and files and the fact that we couldn't access them for much of the last month or so helped give them the oomph they needed.? I didn't have anything formal written, just a few posts here and then letting them know what was coming.
--Paula
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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 07:12 am, <lfranklinp2p@...> wrote:
I am a group manager in yahoo and also a member of this corresponding forum in yahoo.? For all of the reasons that have been discussed, we are considering moving our group to io.? I am wondering if anyone has written information for their old (yahoo) group about how to use groups.io in anticipation of the transfer?? Is that something you would be able to share with me as an example?
We have members of our yahoo group who have been with us for 20 years, so making this scale of change is a BIG DEAL!
Any help appreciated!
Lisa
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Mark has specifically asked not to try to send the invites repeatedly because they're going through although it looks like they're not. He is drowning in them.
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Barb M <barbm68@...> wrote: Have you tried repeatedly?? I do use the Yahoo Invitation process and in the past few weeks, while all the rest of YG has been messed up, that has, too.? It always takes me at least 2 tries to get an invitation out, but they have gone out eventually when I repeated it several times.? The one thing that still has not worked (since Jan 27) is the membership activity log.? I only know people have gotten invites and accepted when they appear on the membership list.? "Files" come and go.? I'm trying to update our content in preparation for transfer and it's not easy when YG isn't functioning very well.? I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact.
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Duane
Tammi McKinley, CPM
Paula
Frances
Anne =^..^=
SP4149