Richard, In one of my groups I have about 220 bouncers who all have the 'no
email' option.
This seems rather odd to me. If they don't have posts delivered via
email at all, what does it mean for them to be bouncing? The bounce handling in Groups.io covers more than just message posts. It also covers Welcome and other sorts of notices and email from the system (as well as messages in groups other than yours!). If you open the membership page for one of those members (click on the member's row in the table, anywhere but the checkbox) then select the "Email Delivery History" tab it may tell you which message, and why it bounced. Shal
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Thanks Shal, ? Looking at I see lots of bounced messages on January twenty ninth , for about ten hours beginning at 2am. Only that day, never seen those before. Maybe the system was swamped by spam? Shutdown by admins for maintenance? ? I do have PGOffline backups up through four days ago, and since then in an Outlook client, so all is not lost. Scott Bonacker CPA – McCullough and Associates LLC – Springfield, MO (thanks for answering about YG in a non-YG forum, but at the moment this is the only one that is working) ?
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From: Shal Farley
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Second fail in YahooGroups ? Scott, Nothing distributed from Yahoo Groups since 8:14pm CST on 1-29-2018 as far as I can tell.
Yesterday a member of YGMF complained that no email was going through her groups, but that posting via the site still worked. I replied by email, received the pending notice by email, and approved by email and that all worked. However, there's been no activity since. So...
Hm... A test post by email hasn't come through yet, but it is only a few minutes so far.
Notably the web interface seems to be responding much more quickly than had been the case.
Shal
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Norman, This members claims she's been added (to MediaPro) four times. I
haven't added her. The group's Activity log should have something to say about this. Click on the Moderator Activity tab and look for any relevant actions around the time of that forwarded message. If the person was added by a moderator of your group there should be an entry that says so. Nor have I seen any of her four requests to be removed. Check your own subscription, and make sure you've elected to receive all Owner emails. Shal
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This members claims she's been added (to MediaPro) four times. I haven't added her. Nor have I seen any of her four requests to be removed. Any idea what's happening here...?
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Please STOP adding me.
I have requested removal 4 times alone today :((?
Jacqui [redacted]
[redacted]?
www.[redacted].com?
On Jan 30, 2018, at 3:30 PM,? [email protected]?Moderators < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello Jacqui [redacted],
You have been added by the moderators to their??group?
The address to send an email to the groups is?[email protected].
If this was a mistake, please click on the following link and you will be immediately removed:
Remove Me!
Cheers,
The??Team
[personal information redacted by moderator for privacy]
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Not that I'm aware of.? That's the whole reason for using a group site.? Otherwise you could just use groups set up within an email client.
Duane
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Hi Shal,
I posted to Y!GMF yesterday & it never got approved, I'm guessing it never made it to the approval stage. One of my groups had a moderated message which I approved, it never was posted and doesn't show up in conversations.
I wish Verizon/Yahoo would quit "Fixing" things, it is difficult to handle the rejection,
Paul, Ohio, USA
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 4:28:13 PM EST, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Scott, ????
Nothing distributed from Yahoo Groups since 8:14pm CST on 1-29-2018 as far as I can tell.
Yesterday a member of Y!GMF complained that no email was going through her groups, but that posting via the site still worked. I replied by email, received the pending notice by email, and approved by email and that all worked. However, there's been no activity since. So... Hm... A test post by email hasn't come through yet, but it is only a few minutes so far. Notably the web interface seems to be responding much more quickly than had been the case. Shal
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Re: Increase my chance of "Files" transfer success?
#transfer
Hi Ken, Yes, I've downloaded 5 groups using PG Offline. It took some effort to get all of the files because I had to go back and check to see what I missed because of Verizon/Yahoo being so inconsistent when opening the files. When I go to Files to look, I often have to double click the File to get it to open or even to see the files. I'm sure PG Offline has the difficulty. Messages take time because Verizon/Yahoo will kick you out for a few hours. I found that a way around this is to use a VPN and change your IP address. Still took a couple of days to get a group the messages from a group with 40,000+.
Still, I'm glad I did this because Verizon/Yahoo is very bad. I've approved messages that never get emailed to the members and I've posted messages to one of the groups that never show up on the group list. People applying for membership don't get on the list and if they do, the owners don't get notified.
In the end, PG Offline has been well worth the price. I urge you to not delay, it would not surprise me to find Verizon/Yahoo has crashed
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 7:10:17 PM EST, SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:
Anyone try -? PG Offline - Download Yahoo Groups, Messages, Files and
Photos.
KEN
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Thank you Shal... I need to read more carefully. <:-|
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Tim,
Ken, thanks, but no, I used the groups.io /_INVITE_/ function - it has
nothing to do with YG. There's your problem.
You're supposed to Invite the transfer agent to your Y!Group. It doesn't need to be a member of your Groups.io group. But it does need moderator privilege in your Y!Group.
Shal
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#transfer
Anyone try - PG Offline - Download Yahoo Groups, Messages, Files and Photos. KEN "It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success." STEINBECK - CANNERY ROW On 2018-01-30 15:17, greyolddave wrote: Files for my two groups did not "transfer" I had to manually download
them to my hard drive and then upload them into my new groups.io
groups.
I did find that most attemps at download failed with a white screen.
What DID WORK was to right click on each file name (NOT Left Click)
then choose "save link as" and then set it down into a prepared folder
on my drive. That worked every time. Tedious but it worked/
Uploading worked quite well between my hard drive folders with all our
file up into the groups.io group.
Cheers
David Crotty [excess quote trimmed by moderator]
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#transfer
Files for my two groups did not "transfer" I had to manually download them to my hard drive and then upload them into my new groups.io groups.
I did find that most attemps at download failed with a white screen.
What DID WORK was to right click on each file name (NOT Left Click) then choose "save link as" and then set it down into a prepared folder on my drive.? That worked every time. Tedious but it worked/
Uploading worked quite well between my hard drive folders with all our file up into the groups.io group.
Cheers
David Crotty
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 03:03 pm, Don McKee wrote:
Assuming that the groups transfer process gets going again, I'm curious if there's anything that I can do to maximize the possibility that our "Files" repository makes the trip.? I saw at least one post suggesting that putting all of the files in the top level (i.e. directly in "Files") was the way to go. We make use of lots of sub-folders (sometimes several levels deep), so moving our files around could prove to be painful if it isn't likely to help.? Can anyone who knows better than I do offer any words of wisdom?
Also, does anyone know if a "do-over" of the "Files" transfer can be attempted later if the original attempt fails?
-Don
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I don’t understand the advantage of the Directory either. ? Don
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Hi there,
I own a group that does not require the use of an archive.? We use the group to each others email clients, which in turn, allow individual users to save posts or threads as they see fit.? Is there a way to turn the archive facility off?
Thanks,
--Mark
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#transfer
Assuming that the groups transfer process gets going again, I'm curious if there's anything that I can do to maximize the possibility that our "Files" repository makes the trip.? I saw at least one post suggesting that putting all of the files in the top level (i.e. directly in "Files") was the way to go. We make use of lots of sub-folders (sometimes several levels deep), so moving our files around could prove to be painful if it isn't likely to help.? Can anyone who knows better than I do offer any words of wisdom?
Also, does anyone know if a "do-over" of the "Files" transfer can be attempted later if the original attempt fails?
-Don
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In one of my groups I have about 220 bouncers who all have the 'no email' option.
This seems rather odd to me. If they don't have posts delivered via email at all, what does it mean for them to be bouncing?
Richard
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Thanks for the follow-up.
I will reinforce the message with Mark with the understanding that there are other priorities at the moment.
As far as our group is concerned, I would like for regular subscribers to be able to edit and close a chat that they have opened, should they be given the permission to
do so. (I would prefer that deleting be under moderator/owner’s ?control, but since subscribers can delete their posts, the same would presumably apply to chats).
Found the post on Beta.
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Steve D.
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From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]]
On Behalf Of Ginny T.
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Closing chats - moderators? #Discussion
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Mark got back to me on this... as you can image he's rather crunched. Here's how it works:
The statement about who can OPEN chats is correct - it is only opening a chat.
In order for a moderator to be able to perform any other management functions on a chat that has been opened, that moderator must also have been given "Edit Archives" permission. If that is granted, then a chat may be closed, reopened or deleted. Otherwise,
an owner must manage an open chat.
Mark did also include in his note back to me that "perhaps I should change this"....
I replied that I believed that it would be a good and welcomed change. In many groups chats serve entirely different purposes than email posts. Many groups do not allow editing of archives for reasons ranging from courtesy to legal. Having to allow that editing
in order for a moderator to manage a chat is not something that works in many groups.
I think - hope - that Mark sees this (he was very open in our posts) - but some support about it might be helpful (once he's out from under the Yahoo mess, which could be a while...). There is a post in Beta about it...
Ginny T
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Patty In the past Mark helped with this, transferring over groups, could be worth asking? ? Or simply creat a ggroup and give the new sub link to your yahoo group and let the members sub themselves? Just a thought sugar ? "Heaven is full of answers to prayers for which no one ever bothered to ask. :
? Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:
? Bless you, Sugar Lopez ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patti via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Second fail in YahooGroups? I'm having the same problem. I do not have the time to transfer the groups due to my husband being ill - was hoping to do it this summer, but may have to find the time now. On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 3:59:28 PM EST, Scott Bonacker <lister@...> wrote: Nothing distributed from Yahoo Groups since 8:14pm CST on 1-29-2018 as far as I can tell. Normally I would have close to 100 messages by now from my groups. ? There was an outage last week as well. At that time I notified several members of the available replacement on groups.io. ? Makes me wonder .... ? ? ?
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Scott, so far as I can tell, nothing from Yahoo Groups is being distributed via Email, nor posted to a Groups webpage of Conversations.? For some normally quite busy groups, since even earlier than 8pm CST yesterday.?
I don't think it's anything to do with you notifying about replacements at Groups.Io.? Over the weekend, the escalating, widening errors and failures and nonsense that I was seeing mirrored *exactly *the pattern which immediately preceded each of the last two major outages.? It makes me worried about trying to execute a transfer to Groups.io when so many aspects of any YG are consistently inaccessible.
Early yesterday I alerted Verizon/Oath/Pizza Hut/Toys R Us Concierge Care about the return of that pattern of escalating, widening errors and failures...? and later got a reply saying oh no, it's all good, they'd already fixed those problems last week - and I should try clearing out my cache.
No sooner had I read that reply this morning then I noticed Groups is once again "tits up."?
Next, "the engineers" will be suggesting I reboot my modem, or upgrade to Windows '95.? -simon
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I found the setting so all is working.
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Announcements are when the group cant send letters only the owner.
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Duane
Tim O'Connor
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Don Grass
Don McKee
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