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"not taking off"

 

From: Chris Jones <chrisjones12@...>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 20:21:48 CET
Looking at the publicly listed groups there seem to be > a lot that simply don't seem to take off, and languish > there with but a handful of members and minimal or no > activity.
This was to be expected. A lot of groups lost significant numbers of subscribers because those did not bother to move to the new groups, and some groups were created "just in case". Sometimes different people created different groups to take over the functions of the same yahoogroup, sometimes the owner of the original group found a place outside groups.io


Some groups will slowly grow, others may be repurposed eventually.

I don't see dormant groups as a problem, especially not if their websites point people to an active one

I don't necessarily see people who lurk as a problem either. If a group has hundreds or thousands of subscribers, over half of them not posting stuff is a good thing.

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo
Re: Not Getting Some E-mails

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 12:35 PM, Ginger Iorizzo wrote:
I suspect the problem may be with Hotmail, but I thought I would ask here in case it is not.
It probably is.? You can check your own email delivery history to see if they were bounced.? If not, they may show up eventually.

Duane
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Re: Not Getting Some E-mails

 

Hi, I was having the same issue a couple days ago but they ended up showing up later. So there might just be a hiccup in the system.

On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Ginger Iorizzo <gingeriorizzo@...> wrote:

Hi,
I suspect the problem may be with Hotmail, but I thought I would ask here in case it is not. Recently two members of my group sent e-mails that I did not receive, although others in the group have gotten them, and I am receiving replies to those e-mails. They are in the Activity Log as being sent, which, of course, makes sense. I am the group owner and I'm set to receive all e-mails, which I do, except for these two recent ones. I have checked my Junk/Spam folders and they are not there. I suspect that Hotmail may be blocking them? One is from an sbcglobal.net account and the other is from a charter.net account.
If it's not Hotmail, is there some other explanation?
Thanks!
Ginger
Not Getting Some E-mails

 

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Hi,
I suspect the problem may be with Hotmail, but I thought I would ask here in case it is not.? Recently two members of my group sent e-mails that I did not receive, although others in the group have gotten them, and I am receiving replies to those e-mails.? They are in the Activity Log as being sent, which, of course, makes sense.? I am the group owner and I'm set to receive all e-mails, which I do, except for these two recent ones.? I have checked my Junk/Spam folders and they are not there.? I suspect that Hotmail may be blocking them? One is from an sbcglobal.net account and the other is from a charter.net account.
If it's not Hotmail, is there some other explanation?
Thanks!
Ginger
Re: Determining active members (and removing the inactive)

 

Thank you for clarifying this, Shal.
Regards,
Marina
Re: Change to options in free basic groups?

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:04 AM, Merle Finch wrote:
Has there been a change to the options for the free groups?
The change was made on August 24, 2020 -

Duane
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Change to options in free basic groups?

 

Just recently, our non-profit organization has experienced a change in creating a free basic group. We no longer have the ability to upload files to our group. Has there been a change to the options for the free groups? We can see a pull-down for "upgrade" and the files option is listed there, but we cannot access it. Thanks for any help you can give.
Re: Email Full

 

Which is why you should not click on a link on an unsolicited email.

If one triggers an email exchange, such as subscribing to a group, then the confirmation is triggered, and if the link in that email looks legit, it might be OK to click (review raw text of email to confirm), though in many cases it is sufficient to respond to the confirmation email.

If an email is unsolicited, unexpected, kinda a surprise thing, do not click.

Duane wrote:

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 08:09 AM, Green Gate Grove wrote:
I recently received a pending email post that basically stated that
my group email was 99.9 full.
It's definitely a phishing email.? There are many clues:
1.? It's from a non-member
2.? There's a typo in the URL
3.? The grammar is terrible
4.? The warning screen isn't for the Groups.io site
5.? There is no webmail on Groups.io
If you hover over the URL shown, a little box should pop up to tell you where it will actually take you.? It can say one thing, but go someplace else, like this https:mygroup.groups.io </g/GroupManagersForum/message/36201>? (This is actually a link to your original message.)
Duane
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Re: Email Full

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 08:09 AM, Green Gate Grove wrote:
I recently received a pending email post that basically stated that my group email was 99.9 full.
It's definitely a phishing email.? There are many clues:
1.? It's from a non-member
2.? There's a typo in the URL
3.? The grammar is terrible
4.? The warning screen isn't for the Groups.io site
5.? There is no webmail on Groups.io

If you hover over the URL shown, a little box should pop up to tell you where it will actually take you.? It can say one thing, but go someplace else, like this https:mygroup.groups.io? (This is actually a link to your original message.)

Duane
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Re: Email Full

 

Is there a summary of stats on a group in one place? It would show things
like number of members, messages, space used for different things, etc...
Right now I find I have to hop around to figure out those things.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
Re: Email Full

 

Apologies I have just reread your post

Ignore my previous as I thought you were talking about your yahoo inbox

My fault for not reading it properly

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 08/01/2021 13:15, Green Gate Grove via groups.io wrote:
I recently received a pending email post that basically stated that my group email was 99.9 full.
I believe this to be a scam of some kind. See attached files to see what I mean.
Has anyone else received this and do we need to check out mailbox for trash?
Re: Question on Subgroup invites

Glenn Glazer
 

I would just like to point out that if someone could be added to a subgroup and not the main group, then it would no longer be a subgroup, it would be some other group with partially overlapping members.

Best,

Glenn
Re: Email Full

 

Whilst it *may* be a phishing mail of a kind it is also possible your online inbox *is* getting near full

Although as I have 1TB of storage I suspect you will too and its unlikely that you have reached that

Do not click any link in the warning email but go online and check your Yahoo mailbox

Go to settings then more settings

Bottom left is the size of storage and the percentage you have reached

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 08/01/2021 13:15, Green Gate Grove via groups.io wrote:
I recently received a pending email post that basically stated that my group email was 99.9 full.
I believe this to be a scam of some kind. See attached files to see what I mean.
Has anyone else received this and do we need to check out mailbox for trash?
Re: Email Full

 

Sounds if your files/email archive storage is full. Find out by logging into GIO (always from your browser's address bar or bookmarks, never ever from a link in a potentially unsolicited email), check storage.

Green Gate Grove via groups.io wrote:

I recently received a pending email post that basically stated that my group email was 99.9 full.
I believe this to be a scam of some kind. See attached files to see what I mean.
Has anyone else received this and do we need to check out mailbox for trash?
Re: Question on Subgroup invites

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Beth Weld wrote:
If a person is direct added to the main group we also add them to 4-5 subgroups depending on requirements.
It sounds like we have a similar set-up. We have a pre-approved club membership list which is managed externally to Groups.io. As people join, they are Direct Added to our main group and relevant subgroups and as they leave they are removed.? Allowing subgroup Mods to invite people to a subgroup means they are added to the main group and therefore the Mods have an element of control over the main group that we do not want.

Andy
Email Full

Green Gate Grove
 

I recently received a pending email post that basically stated that my group email was 99.9 full.
I believe this to be a scam of some kind. See attached files to see what I mean.
Has anyone else received this and do we need to check out mailbox for trash?

email-error.jpg
email-post.jpg

Re: Help, renaming group did not update the Welcome message..

 

Fortunately the decision to rename the group happened before there were any users.

The only notice type that shows under settings was the Welcome notice even though the wiki implied there may be more.
Re: Question on Subgroup invites

 

Thanks everyone,
Christos, in answer to your question on why I don't want subgroup moderators to be able to add a member to the main group- we have a complicated setup in groups.io with many subgroups.?

If a person is direct added to the main group we also add them to 4-5 subgroups depending on requirements.? If a person is invited to a subgroup and automatically added to the main group, they don't get added to the other subgroups so are not added correctly.? If a person is already in the main group then adding to a different subgroup is fine.

I assign moderators to each subgroup based on their need to manage that subgroup. I definitely don't want all of them to be a moderator of the main group and have access to all subgroups. They each manage their subgroup(s) and don't stray into other subgroups.

It is basically a question of control and trying to limit the scope of a moderator. It is not that I think that anyone is going to knowingly screw things up - but we are all volunteers, and it can be very easy to do something by mistake.

Education sounds like my best plan - and watching the main group activity logs.
Many thanks everyone
Beth
Re: Weirdness #addmembers

 

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On 2021-01-08 01:11, David Bryant via groups.io wrote:
I have created a couple of subgroups. One of the moderators in a subgroup is a bit thoughtless, and sent an invitation (to join the subgroup) without my knowledge or consent

Hmm ... interestingly enough there was another instance recently (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/36192) where the same root problem, a subgroup mod inviting a member when they shouldn't be able to (if the main group admin didn't want them to), caused an unintended issue downstream.

I proposed a few solutions in that topic, the quick and easy "in subgroups, hide/disable the Invite option for all but the owners" solution would prevent stuff like this from happening.

Cheers,
Christos
Re: Weirdness #addmembers

 

Thank you, Bruce. I didn't think to start taking screenshots until I had deleted the guy.

I figured it out. I have created a couple of subgroups. One of the moderators in a subgroup is a bit thoughtless, and sent an invitation (to join the subgroup) without my knowledge or consent.So the other log entries are in the log for the subgroup, but the master membership record was added to the main group.

I think I'll make a suggestion to Mark, that when members are added to the main group because of activity originating within a subgroup, an entry should also be made in the main group's actvity log. When I thought to look at the subgroup I saw what had happpened pretty quickly. But I also saw that the member's deletion (by me) had not been logged in the subgroup's activity. That's also a little confusing.
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