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Re: Identifying inactive members

 

The least useful members are those who have hard bounced.? Messages to them are receiving status like "no such account", etc.
You can find them in the section of Members labeled Bouncing members.? Where soft bounces have a Blue B and hard bouncers have a Red B.
Since hard bouncers are not recoverable, you can just delete them.? They only inflate your numbers.

It seems to me the best way to process all of those No Email people is to download your membership into an Excel file and sort it.
Then you could send a general message to all of them by either a MS Word Mailmerge to email or converting the email column in the Excel file of those who set "no? email" (via MS word) to a delimited string compatible with your email client and sending them all a message
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Bob Bellizzi

The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
0 files were transferred

 

I received an email stating the following:

Your group has been transferred

Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 12:40:55? (Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:40:55 -0500)

My question is why did it not transfer any of the files over?

0 files were transferred

Thank you for the help
Re: Identifying inactive members

Mike Conder
 

I'm doing it by checking those with "No Email" preference, then sending them a note asking if they're readin inline or just no longer interested or whatever.? I'm only doing that as part of a Yahoo to IO transfer, though, as I don't see it as a big deal worth any effort to fix.

Mike Conder

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Marv Waschke <marv@...> wrote:

How do you identify inactive members? Our group has a handful of virtuoso commenters, a much larger number of occasional commenters, and an even larger number of folks who subscribe to read the comments but seldom or never comment themselves. I know about the lurkers because I was one for years when I was too busy to say much. Is there an effective way to identify the inactive members that differentiates them from readers who do not comment? I suppose I am asking if can track reads on posts.

Best, Marv
Re: No login link

 

I am assuming that your member put in the email address she used for registration.?

Frances
Identifying inactive members

 

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How do you identify inactive members? Our group has a handful of virtuoso commenters, a much larger number of occasional commenters, and an even larger number of folks who subscribe to read the comments but seldom or never comment themselves. I know about the lurkers because I was one for years when I was too busy to say much. Is there an effective way to identify the inactive members that differentiates them from readers who do not comment? I suppose I am asking if groups.io can track reads on posts.

Best, Marv
Re: Transition completed this morning

 

A casualty of the transfer is that my e-mail label was changed to Default; that has now been corrected.
In some respects that was harder than the transfer.

KEN

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in
men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling
are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest,
sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are
the traits of success." STEINBECK - CANNERY ROW

On 2018-01-23 13:22, Default wrote:
1600 members successfully transferred along with files and photos.
Before I got the message from Easy Transfer I was getting
unsubscription notices.
About 15 members unsubscribed as soon as they got the Welcome to the
new group message.
After two hours all has calmed down. Notifications were about two to one,
thanking me for the transfer versus leaving the group.
I shut down posting of new files and photos on the old YahooGroup list,
no new members, moderators have been furloughed. Hopefully that
will be my last Special Notice to that YahooGroup.
ken
Transition completed this morning

 

1600 members successfully transferred along with files and photos.
Before I got the message from Easy Transfer I was getting unsubscription notices.
About 15 members unsubscribed as soon as they got the Welcome to the new group message.

After two hours all has calmed down. Notifications were about two to one,
thanking me for the transfer versus leaving the group.
I shut down posting of new files and photos on the old YahooGroup list,
no new members, moderators have been furloughed. Hopefully that
will be my last Special Notice to that YahooGroup.

ken
Re: What action is required by members after the transfer?

 

That time limit is nevertheless ridiculously short, and I fail to understand
the reason for it. I generally download emails into my client once per day. If
I follow a link within one of those messages, as in the case described, I would
not see the response for about 24 hours (and could be several days if I
happened to be away from home the following days). I wouldn't have the problem
because my account is already set up, but I doubt if I'm the only person in the
world to work that way.

Jim Fisher

On 23 Jan 2018 at 11:29, Dave Sergeant wrote:

You are confusing a couple of things. Firstly you and your members need
to do absolutely nothing, after the transfer they receive an email
telling they have been transferred - there is a link to click in that
email if they do NOT want to be in the new group, there is no time
limit on that link.

I think what you are talking about is the first time they visit the
group they are asked to set up a password - they will then be emailed a
link to enable that and that link is valid from one hour only from the
time they click it. If they decide not to set up a password they will
still be members but won't be able to access the group via the web,
only email.

Dave


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Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

 

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> Mac users who use Mail should delete the YahooGroups email
>?address from Previous Recipients from Window tab.?
> Then no autofilling of the old address.
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> Frances
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As an owner/moderator who doesn't use a MAC I really appreciate this advice, Frances. I will pass it along to my groups, and hopefully avoid a few misdirected message intercepts.?Thank you!!
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Dano
No login link

Nancy in Renton
 

my member can¡¯t login. She has asked to be emailed the password. Nothing comes. She¡¯s checked spam, etc. with no success.

Nancy
Re: Great transition

 

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¡°We had 2% leave the group. I emailed a few people and, as I expected, they had lost interest and took the opportunity to leave.¡±

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People leaving is to be expected. I used to purge the membership list on our old group every few years, because many people leaving the group would not unsubscribe. After awhile the group was showing an unreasonable amount of membership, and I wanted the membership to reflect the real amount of members we had. I would Special Notice the group telling them if they want to stay in the group to email me, and those that did not after one month got deleted from the membership list. There were always a few stragglers that wanted back in, but that was easy to deal with. I think some groups that have unusually high membership numbers, don¡¯t actually reflect active members.

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Don
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

 

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Mac users who use Mail should delete the YahooGroups email address from Previous Recipients from Window tab.?
Then no autofilling of the old address.

Frances

On Jan 23 18, at 1:32 PM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:

> After my group transferred, we had exactly one snafu? ...??After that, most people using email were not even aware of the change. We have some group members who STILL think we're in yahoo. It was that seamless. :)
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> J?
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I have noted the same thing with my group transfers. The biggest problem I have is reminding people to change their address book entry for the groups to the??address. I have members who still don't?really comprehend that we've moved.
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Dano
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Great transition

 

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Our group transitioned yesterday. Today, I would call it a smooth success. Transferring 17+ years of posts went much faster than I anticipated and without any perceived errors. Our old Y! group is now set to all posts moderated and new members by invite only. No posts have been made to the Y! group and lots of kudos on groups.io and no complaints from the membership.

We started the process with our group shortly after the Oath: acquisition, explaining that a move might be necessary and giving them reasons, asking for suggestions, and eventually settling on groups.io. We chose this week for the move because it is relatively quiescent. We are a book discussion group and customarily have a week break between books. I have to admit that I was a bit shaken when I saw Mark¡¯s announcement that Y! transfers might be halted, elated when I saw the transfer execute quickly and flawlessly yesterday morning.

We had 2% leave the group. I emailed a few people and, as I expected, they had lost interest and took the opportunity to leave. We plan to get to all of them eventually.

10% are bouncing. That is more troubling. I posted on the Y! group that members should be receiving posts from groups.io and to adjust their anti-spam if they are not. We¡¯ll see if bouncing list shrinks. If not, I will probably reach out individually. This is annoying, but I see it as a necessary growing pain.

All in all, a remarkably pleasant experience. I¡¯ve architected, coded, and presided over many upgrades and product switches in my day job. This has been one of the easiest.

Best, Marv Waschke
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

 

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> After my group transferred, we had exactly one snafu? ...??After that, most people using email were not even aware of the change. We have some group members who STILL think we're in yahoo. It was that seamless. :)
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> J
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I have noted the same thing with my group transfers. The biggest problem I have is reminding people to change their address book entry for the groups to the groups.io address. I have members who still don't?really comprehend that we've moved.
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Dano
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

~mary~
 

I just got a private email from one member who suggested the group be moved to Googlegroups.. Sigh!!

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Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

 

When I moved my groups. I made the announcement, gave them a month to move, invited them even then shut down the group with no warning. I told them I was going to do this. They are used to me so they followed directions with out complaints. I said eithe rdo this my way or there's the door. Some left, about 90 percent stayed. I run my groups with a heavy but fair hand so that worked.

Take care

On Jan 23, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Default <ken@...> wrote:

Last night I was asked what I was going to do after the transfer is complete.

I told them that when complete. please post only on groups.io
All posts on the old group will be moderated.
No new members will be approved for the YG list.
The moderators will no longer moderate (and approve messages) on
a timely basis.
The old YG group will be an archive, until YG dies, it will not grow.

So Far all quiet, this was a Special Notice so all should have received it by now

ken

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How can we enable receipt of emails from mailchimp? #issue

Sam & Noemi Ovando
 
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We are trying to implement MailChimp for our group and have the email go to people on the list FROM an email address that represents one of our sub-groups in groups.io.

However, MailChimp, when trying to verify the groups.io email address we have, it says the domain is not verifiable.??

Can you help us figure out how to fix this?

Thanks!
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

J_Catlady
 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:20 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
I'm still not surprised that someone might resist what may seem to them to be alarmist information.
Shal, absolutely, in retrospect it was stupid to give the proverbial unasked-for advice. I couched it in alarmist terms only because I was sure they would ignore it otherwise. I should never even have made the attempt.
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J
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

J_Catlady
 

After my group transferred, we had exactly one snafu: a member sent her email with her logon link to another member, trying to be helpful, and then the member logged into that member's account. (That snafu, IIRC, was the origin of the 60-minute time-out on the login link.:) After that, most people using email were not even aware of the change. We have some group members who STILL think we're in yahoo. It was that seamless. :)
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J
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

 

Last night I was asked what I was going to do after the transfer is complete.

I told them that when complete. please post only on groups.io
All posts on the old group will be moderated.
No new members will be approved for the YG list.
The moderators will no longer moderate (and approve messages) on
a timely basis.
The old YG group will be an archive, until YG dies, it will not grow.

So Far all quiet, this was a Special Notice so all should have received it by now

ken

On 2018-01-23 08:39, J_Catlady wrote:
This morning I went back into that yahoo group (mainly out of morbid
curiosity - I'm not going to post any more there) and found a deluge
of angry, sarcastic posts - yahoo groups is just fine, we don't need
you telling us what to do, bla bla bla. Thanks for the support,
everyone!
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J
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