Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

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That is great! I have never tested or used compulsory hashtags. I don't see it in the Help either. I learned something today. Thanks.

BTW, I split off this discussion into its own thread and added a hashtag.

Frances
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

Carla Nelson

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Thanks, Chris. While I was waiting i found another path for my members. ?

Compose your note in email, title it (Happy New Year), NO hash. The system sends a note right back enclosing the hashtag menu and prompting a pick.

End result: It says Happy New Year, just as you wished. And the note gets filed under the appropriate hashtag — in this example #Announcements

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 3:04 PM Chris Jones via <chrisjones12=[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:56 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??

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In the subject line type: Subject #hashtag

Do not type any punctuation after the hashtag and discourage members from typing #hashtag then Subject.

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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 04:56 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

Sorry -- Category is my term picking one of the 3 hashtags available. I limited it to 3 and forced authors of new topics to pick one so as to pre-sort the topics in clumps.

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So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??

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If there are only 3 hashtags available for the group, it should be easy to remember them and assign them to an email. Just type in the word with # like #guide. Example 2 with a topic: ?adopting older dogs #adoption

Easy online, of course, to pick from the list of hashtags after they have typed in the topic / subject.

I am not sure whether this answers your question or not.

Frances
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:56 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??

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In the subject line type: Subject #hashtag

Do not type any punctuation after the hashtag and discourage members from typing #hashtag then Subject.

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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

Carla Nelson

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Sorry -- Category is my term picking one of the 3 hashtags available. I limited it to 3 and forced authors of new topics to pick one so as to pre-sort the topics in clumps.

So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:34 PM Chris Jones via <chrisjones12=[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:28 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

I set up my group to require a category
What, exactly, is a "category"?

Chris

Re: Moderator not receiving messages

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 02:02 PM, Alan Warshawer wrote:

On 20 December for some unknown reason, the posts requiring moderator action shifted to "Social." I don't think that it was any action I?took that caused the shift, but it happened.

I'd guess it was probably something Google did, they have a habit of changing things.? I've gone into my account and removed ALL of the categories, so everything? (except spam) just shows up in my inbox.? If I wanted to do some sorting, I'd do it in Thunderbird.

Duane
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Re: #owner #owner

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开云体育

Hi Bruce,

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes, they do bring up "what if" issues, but those issues are issues today.

Our group has four co-owners who come together to agree on all of our owner decisions. That same formula or a majority formula could be automatically implemented. I am part of a small group and would rely on your knowledge of the complexities of doing this on a global level in forwarding this as a suggestion.

Ken

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“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Churchill

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] #owner

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:

If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

Ken -- You could propose this as a #suggestion in the beta group, but please carefully consider all the "what if" scenarios first. For example, one Owner could also downgrade (not delete) all the other Owners and then delete the group. So to implement something like this, you would also have to remove the co-Owner downgrade privilege.

And then, "what if" one of the Owners dies, leaving his ownership behind? You can never remove his subscription, downgrade him, or delete the group, no matter what?

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

The last remaining Owner is never removed for a spam report.
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Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Moderator not receiving messages

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Friends,

? ? ?After all your help, I found the solution to the problem.? I am using Gmail.? Gmail provides for emails to be displayed under one of several settings.? ?My settings are Primary, Social, Promotions and Forum.? The posts requesting?my action as moderator go to the "Primary", After I approve, the resulting posts go to "Forum."

? ? ?On 20 December for some unknown reason, the posts requiring moderator action shifted to "Social." I don't think that it was any action I?took that caused the shift, but it happened.? I found it by going through the "All Mail" listing, finding the missing posts and redirecting them from "Social" to "Primary"

? ? ?I hope that this explanation helps some other Moderators if they face a similar problem.

Alan

Alan J. Warshawer

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On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 1:31 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:02 AM, Alan Warshawer wrote:

Of course, I can check the web periodically to see if there is anything pending, but why the change?
Nothing has changed on the GIO end of it.? Have you checked your subscription to see if you're bouncing?? If not, your email provider may be black holing the messages.? No need for web/app if you don't have your browser set for notifications or the app installed on a phone/tablet.

Duane
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 02:22 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

Do you mean people need to either start every new topic the web or click on a prior piece of forum email mail to hop onto the web and begin a new topic online? My group requires a category for each new topic, and I was wondering how you could do that if starting from email.

You can use the footers in emails from your group to reply or to start a new thread. The exact options depends on the person's own subscription to the group.
See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/additional-information/understanding-message-footers?single=true
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/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452

Just look at the footer to this email.

And of course, you can just email as usual, with a proper subject.

You say "category". Do you mean hashtags? You can require them if you wish.?

Group hashtag settings

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Group hashtag settings are in the Message Policies panel on the group’s Settings page. These settings are:

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Hashtags Required: Specifies whether messages must have at least one hashtag.

Hashtag Permissions: Controls whether group members can create new hashtags by adding them to message subject lines.

See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-hashtags?single=true

Here's more help page on sending or replying -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/working-with-group-messages/using-email-to-send-or-reply-to?single=true

BTW, there is a Help for new owners as well as help for owners and members.
See?/helpcenter
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:28 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

I set up my group to require a category

What, exactly, is a "category"?

Chris

Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

Carla Nelson

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>>??I knew some would be a little disoriented, but not being able to figure how to start a new message in IO is beyond anything I would have guessed they could not figure out. ?<<

That is exactly where I am stuck as owner of a new forum learning the ropes before inviting members.

I set up my group to require a category on a new topic.. how does one make that selection if you are posting from email? Or does each new topic need to START on the web, after which all replies can be in email?

Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

Carla Nelson

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I am a new owner learning before inviting others.. got here searching on “start new topic from email”

Do you mean people need to either start every new topic the web or click on a prior piece of forum email mail to hop onto the web and begin a new topic online? My group requires a category for each new topic, and I was wondering how you could do that if starting from email.

Advice welcome!

Re: #owner #owner

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:

If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

Ken -- You could propose this as a #suggestion in the beta group, but please carefully consider all the "what if" scenarios first. For example, one Owner could also downgrade (not delete) all the other Owners and then delete the group. So to implement something like this, you would also have to remove the co-Owner downgrade privilege.

And then, "what if" one of the Owners dies, leaving his ownership behind? You can never remove his subscription, downgrade him, or delete the group, no matter what?

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

The last remaining Owner is never removed for a spam report.
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Regards,
Bruce

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Re: #owner #owner

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Bruce,

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> Lisa -- Any Owner can delete a group

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If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

Just a random set of thoughts.

Ken S.

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Re: Direct Add to subgroup

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Karin Beil wrote:

I have a new volunteer who is very not tech savvy (no computer or web use), but he does have an email address & checks it on his phone. Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to the main group being sent?

He must be a member of the main group in order for you to add him to the subgroup.

You can invite him, or he can send a blank email to join your group -?[email protected]

He doesn't have to receive all the messages to the main group - he could be set to special notices or perhaps daily summary.

Frances
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Direct Add to subgroup

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I have a new volunteer who is very not tech savvy (no computer or web use), but he does have an email address & checks it on his phone. Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to the main group being sent?

Thank you,
Karin
Owner?
BuddyDogs.groups.io
A not-for-profit, all volunteer shelter.

Re: Determining active members (and removing the inactive)

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:13 AM, Marina wrote:

Is there anything else I should consider?

Any Yahoo Mail addresses that bounce with a "554 mailbox is disabled" error can be safely deleted.?Ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/30601?

Yahoo has been purging "inactive" YMail addresses only a monthly basis and this is the error that comes back when you attempt to send something to one of them.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Determining active members (and removing the inactive)

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Duane wrote:

I do agree that it's a good idea to check on
members now and then though.I've never done that, to be honest. Many members left the group when we moved over from YG, but I've done nothing to check on the present members (around 2300) ever since.
However, I have disabled No Mail and I'm going to send a Special Notice with an unsubscribe link for those who want to leave.
I'll lock the Special Notice and invite people who need help to contact our moderators.

Is there anything else I should consider?

Thank you for your help,
Marina

Re: Understanding posting problem for subscriber

#35920

Many thanks Duane

My understanding of it was correct

Much appreciated

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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Optusnet uses the spamhaus list for filtering emails.? Back in October spamhaus put GIO on the blocked (known spammer) list, so all groups email was marked as spam.
There was recently another person using optusnet that had the same problem of their messages not getting through.? It turned out that the emails they were sending were from optusnet.com.au instead of the subscribed address of optusnet.com? They removed the .au in their sending program and all was well again.? We know that they're the same, but GIO takes them literally, so they're deemed two different addresses.? The other option would be for them to add an alias for the .au address to send from.
Duane

Re: Members in red bouncing although bounce probe was apparently accepted

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Thank you, Chris and Duane.
If they still show on the bouncing list in the next days, I'll just remove them.

Regards,
Marina