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>>??I knew some would be a little disoriented, but not being able to figure how to start a new message in IO is beyond anything I would have guessed they could not figure out. ?<<

That is exactly where I am stuck as owner of a new forum learning the ropes before inviting members.

I set up my group to require a category on a new topic.. how does one make that selection if you are posting from email? Or does each new topic need to START on the web, after which all replies can be in email?

I am a new owner learning before inviting others.. got here searching on “start new topic from email”

Do you mean people need to either start every new topic the web or click on a prior piece of forum email mail to hop onto the web and begin a new topic online? My group requires a category for each new topic, and I was wondering how you could do that if starting from email.

Advice welcome!

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:

If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

Ken -- You could propose this as a #suggestion in the beta group, but please carefully consider all the "what if" scenarios first. For example, one Owner could also downgrade (not delete) all the other Owners and then delete the group. So to implement something like this, you would also have to remove the co-Owner downgrade privilege.

And then, "what if" one of the Owners dies, leaving his ownership behind? You can never remove his subscription, downgrade him, or delete the group, no matter what?

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

The last remaining Owner is never removed for a spam report.
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Bruce

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Karin Beil wrote:

I have a new volunteer who is very not tech savvy (no computer or web use), but he does have an email address & checks it on his phone. Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to the main group being sent?

He must be a member of the main group in order for you to add him to the subgroup.

You can invite him, or he can send a blank email to join your group -?[email protected]

He doesn't have to receive all the messages to the main group - he could be set to special notices or perhaps daily summary.

Frances
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I have a new volunteer who is very not tech savvy (no computer or web use), but he does have an email address & checks it on his phone. Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to the main group being sent?

Thank you,
Karin
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A not-for-profit, all volunteer shelter.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:13 AM, Marina wrote:

Is there anything else I should consider?

Any Yahoo Mail addresses that bounce with a "554 mailbox is disabled" error can be safely deleted.?Ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/30601?

Yahoo has been purging "inactive" YMail addresses only a monthly basis and this is the error that comes back when you attempt to send something to one of them.

Regards,
Bruce

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Duane wrote:

I do agree that it's a good idea to check on
members now and then though.

I've never done that, to be honest. Many members left the group when we moved over from YG, but I've done nothing to check on the present members (around 2300) ever since.
However, I have disabled No Mail and I'm going to send a Special Notice with an unsubscribe link for those who want to leave.
I'll lock the Special Notice and invite people who need help to contact our moderators.

Is there anything else I should consider?

Thank you for your help,
Marina

Many thanks Duane

My understanding of it was correct

Much appreciated

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thank you, Chris and Duane.
If they still show on the bouncing list in the next days, I'll just remove them.

Regards,
Marina

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM, Lisa wrote:

somehow, it was removed when she left.? She didn't Remove It!

Lisa -- Any Owner can delete a group; but to do so, you have to click the Delete Group button at the bottom of the Settings page, followed by typing "I understand" in the confirmation dialog. This sequence of events is unlikely to happen by accident.
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Go to the group's home page (htttps://groups.io/g/GROUPNAME). If the home page is still there, the group still exists.

If you've lost your administrative functions, it's probably because you aren't logged in...or maybe you are logged in, but with the wrong email address.?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/8512?

Regards,
Bruce

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:50 AM, Marina wrote:

Apparently the bounce probe went through, but the member is still in red bouncing.
What's the problem?

The probe went through, but they didn't click on the link contained in it.? Until that happens (they remove themselves from bouncing status) they will continue to be a red B.

Duane
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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:49 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:

extmail.optusnet.com.au: 521 5.7.1 <*@optusnet.com.au>: Recipient address rejected: You are not allowed to send mail. Please see if you feel this is in error. (127.0.0.4)

What does the above mean?

Optusnet uses the spamhaus list for filtering emails.? Back in October spamhaus put GIO on the blocked (known spammer) list, so all groups email was marked as spam.

There was recently another person using optusnet that had the same problem of their messages not getting through.? It turned out that the emails they were sending were from optusnet.com.au instead of the subscribed address of optusnet.com? They removed the .au in their sending program and all was well again.? We know that they're the same, but GIO takes them literally, so they're deemed two different addresses.? The other option would be for them to add an alias for the .au address to send from.

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:50 PM, Marina wrote:

Apparently the bounce probe went through, but the member is still in red bouncing.
What's the problem?

The successful delivery of a bounce probe does not unbounce the account; for that to happen the account holder (= member) must respond to the bounce probe.

Chris

I have several members, with accounts linked to the same provider, in red bouncing status.
That provider has been blacklisting GIO for a while.
I wanted to do one last test and sent a bounce probe on Dec 22.
Checking under Email Delivery History for each bouncing member I found the following:

Most Recent Successful Delivery
Message
Bounce probe
Delivered
Dec 22
Response
<5FDB3D3E00E33A11> Mail accepted
(number changes for each member)

Apparently the bounce probe went through, but the member is still in red bouncing.
What's the problem?

Thank you for your help.
Marina

I have a subscriber who says they tried to post to one of my groups but the post was returned as she was not a subscriber although has been for nearly a year

They posted today and on the 21st Dec so there does not appear to be a problem at present

I do not know as yet if they tried to send from an email address which is not subscribed

Under her Email Delivery History

Recent Bounces

Oct 17

extmail.optusnet.com.au: 521 5.7.1 <*@optusnet.com.au>: Recipient address rejected: You are not allowed to send mail. Please see if you feel this is in error. (127.0.0.4)

What does the above mean?

(I think I understand it but would like confirmation)

Under the groups activity I found no bounced or rejected posts from her name or email address just the two recent posts and then in March before that



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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM, Lisa wrote:

somehow, it was removed when she left.? She didn't Remove It!

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Do you mean she was removed from the group? Perhaps by marking a message as spam?

Please see?/helpcenter/faq/1/group-member-faq/q-i-got-a-message-that-i

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On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:54 PM, Lisa wrote:

Question, if someone that I made has Owner on my Ads List, removed herself off does that mean, I lose my Group.? I am not mad at her, I was just curious.? Thanks Everyone!

As long as there is one owner (you, I assume), your group is safe. I understand that Groups.io won't let the last owner leave.

Frances
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Question, if someone that I made has Owner on my Ads List, removed herself off does that mean, I lose my Group.? I am not mad at her, I was just curious.? Thanks Everyone!

Lisa