I think it very much depends on the group and individual choice

If a web forum was the only option I wouldn't use it as I hate that format of having to go somewhere to read or post

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 06:44 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

but if it was I'll bet it is an attempted bugfix for the fact that the badges used to be hidden when the column was too narrow to show them.

Looks like that to me as well, as I can see both cases; "Special F" will stay on one line but "Daily Digest F" creates two lines.

Cheers,
Christos

On 12/30/2020 16:16, BMaverick wrote:

Likewise for our group, wish it was MORE forum based to draw in more discussions and longer involvement with the community in the group.

This depends a lot on the culture of the group. Believe you me, we have plenty of long discussions in my groups and people only go to the website for files and the like.

It's not a matter of better or worse, it's about understand what the community we serve wants and is willing to use. Dragging my users into web forum posting would be extremely counterproductive and I can imagine groups for which the same is true of email.

Best,

Glenn

Carla,

Likewise for our group, wish it was MORE forum based to draw in more discussions and longer involvement with the community in the group.?

The way GroupsIO is functioning, email is the primary, yet it holds keys to draw members to the website to interact IF the messages or topics lend themselves to allow for it to happen.

Example, my group is about Compact Tractors.? How do I the community at this time of the interact.? Easy, we talk about a common device to really help in starting the engines in cold weather.? To us, it's a thermostart device.? In the discussions, I posted what the device is, references to the FILES section on it's uses and benefits for the engine, cold starting and proper care.? About 1/2 the people didn't even know the device was there.? About 30 messages latter, we did a rabbit trail to oil pan heaters, radiator coolant heaters and even infrared heaters to keep the tractors pre-heated an hour before use.

So, have your content on the WEBSITE here on GroupsIO.? OR, if you are a NEWER group, sign up with BOX Storage to store FILES and PHOTOS for FREE.? Then make a LOCKED TOPIC that is PINNED at the top of the messages with LINKS to the BOX Storage to refer your group community to review.?

For us, we have a TRACTOR OF THE MONTH to share with the community.? In our groups, allow a person to create topics of interaction.?

Back on Yahoo Groups, our group was on life-support.? At best, 8 posts a month near the end.? As we migrated over to GroupsIO, getting the community stirred up in a positive and encouraging way has put posting well over 100+ per month.? This in turn has garnished added members as well.? The 5 compact tractor forums out there are loosing members to participate, it takes a person to keep things interactively going.

This is how I'm getting people to the GroupsIO website as a forum vs. the tag-u-r-it emails.

BMaverick

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Hi,

I'm seeing a new layout to the membership list where the details now take two lines due to the badges next to the delivery status.



What a mess and a waste of screen real estate.? Was this part of a planned change I missed?

For what it's worth I do not see this format.? Instead the badges truncate.? I'm using Firefox 84.0.1 under Linux Mint if that helps.

Andy,

I'm seeing a new layout to the membership list where the details now
take two lines due to the badges next to the delivery status.

I'm seeing it too. Firefox on Win10.

I don't know if it was planned, but if it was I'll bet it is an attempted bugfix for the fact that the badges used to be hidden when the column was too narrow to show them.

It hasn't fixed the same problem with the Email column, apparently.

Shal


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Hi,

I'm seeing a new layout to the membership list where the details now take two lines due to the badges next to the delivery status.



What a mess and a waste of screen real estate.? Was this part of a planned change I missed?

Andy

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 02:10 PM, Janice wrote:

I have never used an alias and had no experience with them.? This has been a good learning experience for me.?

Glad it is sorted. Groups.io allows email aliases for sending email, not for receiving. Handy for people who want to occasionally send emails to their group from a different email address (like a work account).
See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information?single=true

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I had my member remove her aol.com alias and I have now successfully Direct Added her back to my group.? I sent a test message and it safely arrived in her aol.com mailbox.? Thanks to everyone for helping me with this predicament.? I have never used an alias and had no experience with them.? This has been a good learning experience for me.?

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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:14 PM, Marina wrote:

Just one more silly question: where do attachments go?
My group is set to Delete old attachments,? but I'd rather check and delete them myself.

They remain attached to the message in the message archive, and are actually stored as base64-encoded text.

Attached photos can be deleted via the Emailed Photos folder, but any other attachments have to be deleted by editing the message.

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/7120?

Regards,
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:14 PM, Patti Woodbury wrote:

it’s already recognized that members can select a “no email”

I always disallow that in Admin, Settings.

I am glad that I can tailor my own subscription to suit my needs. My default group settings for my owned family group is
Following Only
And that's the way I use to follow Beta.

But for a committee group, I use all messages as default. People can change it, or tweak it through muting a thread, etc.

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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM, Patti Woodbury wrote:

Sadly, changing to this option is not retroactive so we still have people who are complaining about too many emails but “can’t be bothered” to change their settings.

It's very sad when all they have to do is send a blank email to [email protected] to get the summary.? You do have the option of changing it for a bunch of people at once.? Go to the members list and sort it by delivery.? Select all of those that have individual (or whatever constitutes "too many"), then scroll down to the Actions box and select Change Email Delivery.? Choose Daily Summary from the pop up box, then Change.? Not too bad on a small group, but would require a bit more work on a large one.

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On one hand, it’s already recognized that members can select a “no email” or “special notices only” option, but group owners can’t do that for the group.
But something I didn’t realize until after a hoard of subscribers joined up is that the group default email delivery can be set to “Daily Summary”. ?For subscribers who don’t change their settings, they will click on topic/subject which will take them to the web based version. ?It acts like a topic based feed. ? Sadly, changing to this option is not retroactive so we still have people who are complaining about too many emails but “can’t be bothered” to change their settings.?
If the owner does choose this default email setting, individual subscribers can still change their own setting to whichever they prefer. ?

Patti in AZ

Duane:

Also check your account setting for your Editor Preference on /account?page=prefs? The other icons won't show up if you've chosen Plain Text or Markdown.

I edited my Preferences and chose HTML (I was in Plain Text). At last, I can see all icons, including the paperclip!
Thank you, Bruce and Duane.

Just one more silly question: where do attachments go?
My group is set to Delete old attachments,? but I'd rather check and delete them myself.

Regards,
Marina

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

If the paperclip icon is absent, double-check your group settings in Message Formatting.

Also check your account setting for your Editor Preference on /account?page=prefs? The other icons won't show up if you've chosen Plain Text or Markdown.

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I don't see any formatting bar in my message box. Maybe because my group is set to Normalize HTML Emails?
So there is no paperclip icon (that's what I meant by "link" icon, sorry for my imperfect English).

I double checked under Settings > Message Formatting > Attachments are actually set to Moderated. So they should be allowed.

Where did I go wrong?
Marina

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:26 AM, Marina wrote:

I wish to reply to one of my own messages, but can't find a way to add an attachment to the reply.
I only see the "quote message" icon, but not the link icon.

Marina -- Use the paperclip icon, not the link icon. See screenshot below.

How can I add an attachment?

If the paperclip icon is absent, double-check your group settings in Message Formatting. If you have attachments set to either "bounce" or "strip," the icon will not appear.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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In my moderators' group (I'm the owner), attachments are set to moderated, umlimited size.
I wish to reply to one of my own messages, but can't find a way to add an attachment to the reply.
I only see the "quote message" icon, but not the link icon.
How can I add an attachment?

Thank you,
Marina

Hi Jannis, have her send her old email address and email me a login link, if she doesn't already use the website. If she already uses the website, then have her go into her account and change her address that way. It will give her an option to merge accounts if she has another account created with the new email address.
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