On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 10:37 AM, Charlie Behnken wrote:

if I hold the phone in portrait mode (vertically), I don't see a way to get to the second page.? I also don't see the bottom line of the page - About, Features, Pricing, etc.? ? But if I turn the phone to landscape mode, I do have the link to the second page, plus the About, Features, Pricing line.

What you'll see is a function of the pixel size of the screen. In portrait mode, the bottom menu (About, Features, etc.) changes to a More button at some point.? In some cases, if you go to the site while in landscape mode, you'll have the regular text.? It switches when you go to portrait, but will be remembered if you go back to landscape.

There does seem to be a bug in portrait mode where the > (next page) button gets hidden behind the lower menu. You should probably report that on beta.

BTW, I'm sort of guessing at some of this.? I don't use a phone or tablet, but can simulate a lot (all?) of it by changing the browser window size on my desktop.

Duane
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I have had similar problems on my iPad. I think "missing content in Portrait mode is "known" iOS behavior. ?I prefer portrait mode so I can use two thumbs to type. Apparently those of us who prefer portrait mode are in the minority. So in order to see everything, the iPad needs to be turned to landscape mode to "find it". Then it somehow remembers the missing content so that it will be displayed in the future while in Portrait mode.?
IDK, but maybe that applies to iPhones as well. Glad the newer model or newer iOS was able to see all the content. Gives me hope when I upgrade.
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Sandi Dickenson

I am wrapping my head around this one. I too, don't see anyway to force a web only reply.?

Even if it were possible, members could email new posts to the group by inserting your group's email address in the "TO" field. You would end up with new posts as replys to already posted topics.

I do know of a service that does require members to log in to post. It's called .

They work closely with hobby clubs that need to keep all content "closed and private".?

Members receive an email digest of the topics posted but they receive no content. They are forced to log into the website in order to read the post and reply.?
It offers a forum, calendar and direct add and removal of members. There's a file area for newsletters and other content. Support is outstanding. They are good at hand holding every step of the way.?

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Sandi Dickenson

Hi Maria,
I have always done it the same way as Michael describes. I feel it gives me more control. Instead of wondering if the change will "go through OK" on the system side of things.?
I know immediately that I can get in as an owner under both emails which is a lifesaver in event that one account were to compromised or lock me out.?
I usually also join under a third account as a member and set that to digest. It lets me monitor what my members see on their digest.
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Sandi Dickenson

Stan,

Why is it that I get the first post of a thread in this group but do
not get any of the other responses.

In /this/ group, GroupManagersForum, your subscription (Advanced Preferences tab) is set to:

| Message Selection
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| Following Only
| Only the messages in topics or hashtags the member has chosen to
| follow are emailed to them, according to their Email Delivery
| selection.
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| First Message Also
| In addition to the topics and hashtags the member has selected to
| follow, the first message of every new topic is also emailed to them.

To see the replies in a topic of interest, click the "Follow This Topic" link in the message footer. Groups.io will send you the replies to date, and then any further replies in this topic.

Or, change your Message Selection to All Messages and receive them all.

Shal


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BTW, I just tested it to see what the footer looks like and it says this:

GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page.

Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 12:41 AM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:

Why is it that I get the first post of a thread in this group but do not get any of the other responses. I have my settings set to individual email.

You may have set your subscription up that way. Or it is the default in your group.

Go to Subscriptions in the email footer or on the group homepage. Scroll down to Advanced Preferences. Click on the arrow on the far right. You will see other options.
For more info, see?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences

You may not like it, but I have one group set up with this as the default. Many of my group members like it. As owner / moderator, it doesn't work for me though. Easy to change.

Frances
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Why is it that I get the first post of a thread in this group but do not get any of the other responses. I have my settings set to individual email.
Stan

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Frances wrote:

I am not sure if you lose anything by downgrading to basic after a month. I don't know how long ago you started your Groups.io group and whether you have any legacy enabled features (grandfathered).?
See Admin, Upgrade.

No problem. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/35366

Frances
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Cal,

You can send each prospective user an "invite" via email. All the user has to do is Reply to the invite to be subscribed. That's easier than instructing him in how to start the process.

Go to Admin-->Invite. There's a spot to create a standard message and another spot to override the standard message when special circumstances arise. You can enter email addresses in short form (joe@...) or long form (Joe Smith <joe@...>).

Larry

We have this problem with one of our groups on LinkedIn.??Because of this very irritating issue, a?couple of years ago we sent polite notes to a few totally-unqualified students asking why they had applied. Found that some overseas schools are instructing their students to join online groups they are unqualified for as a means of connecting with US employers.? We added more working to the name of the group. No effect -- presumably because LinkedIn groups are actually in the LinkedIn system by number rather than name. The audience for the group is now more explicitly given in the name of the group -- so that it is even more clear to anyone who minimally understands written English. It appears that these students are carpet-bombing online groups using lists of links. Suggest you send notes to them asking that your group be taken off whatever list they are using.? ?--cg

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 09:41 PM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:

2.? In yahoogroups, when a member replies to an email, the member can either select reply or reply all like for all standard emails.? However I believe I read that in groups.io, the owner must choose in set-up of group where replies go and it is the same whether member hits their normal reply or reply all buttons…it will only go to the same designated place which has been set up for either replies go to sender or group.? Is that correct?? I’d like members to be able to hit reply and it go to sender or reply all and go to all…so it works just like it does for regular email.? (I know there are links at the bottom of groups.io emails that ca

People can reply from their email or from the group.

The owner can allow group members to reply directly to one member on the group interface. Or disallow it.

Lots of tweaks possible!

A couple of suggestions -

Disallow No Mail. For that option, use Special Notices Only. This means you can send out a broadcast email when necessary and all members will get it.

Consider about privacy. You can't go from private messages / message archive to public messages.

See this section of GMF wiki -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/15860

Also?/helpcenter/gettingstarted

Frances
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On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 09:41 PM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:

1. I only really need basic, but I’d like to pay for one month so I can direct add my members.? I assume I create the group in groups.io basic, so I can set it up the way it will function in the long run. ?Then what do I do and how do I do it?? (I assume I need to pay and then direct add, but is that easy for a non-tech person, because if not, I’m probably better off with the basic invite, but that’s a lot of work.)

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/35366

There is a GMF wiki with help plus official Help.
See?/helpcenter/gettingstarted

Frances
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Dave,

Actually, I don't think I do want them as members. Some background: back in September and October, I received a bunch of new membership applications, all from AOL addresses. The Pending Membership notice asks for a reason for them to request subscribing. I'm not too particular about what their reason is, as much as I just want a human response. After seeing more than one response that was just one line saying something along the lines of? 'I'm about to graduate and my professor said I should look at this site to get information about getting a job', I started getting suspicious and began looking more deeply into these applicants. Turns out that they all were coming from the same city in India, although a few of them were from the Netherlands. So I've stopped approving them (we're a group of railfans in New England; we know nothing about hiring people from halfway around the world). These three were already approved before my crackdown. The fact that all three 'left via web' within 24 hours and 'rejoined via web within 2 minutes the next day REALLY got my attention. They haven't posted any messages so they are still NMM, and I can't see that they have caused any problems, but the whole thing doesn't seem right to me. My next course of action if they don't respond to the message I sent them is to remove them and see what happens after that. If they come back again, I will ban them.

There are several clues in what you just said, and my money is on that they are spammers, and they have been harvesting emails addresses all this time.

I guess what I'm really trying to find out is if this some function that in 3 years of ownership I had never heard about or run across or if it is a bug I should report to Mark.

I's personally would report it on beta, if not as a #bug, as a #misc at least, so this way you/we can get more clarification; something indeed doesn't seem 100% right here, and it could be there is some loophole somewhere which those folks may have discovered/exploited, you never know.

Cheers,
Christos

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think there is a native/built-in way to do this. ?And even if you technically can institute it into a group policy and enforced it, it would require some mod work until folks get the message, and then it would still require work to ensure it stays like this.

I'm curious though, why do you want this? ?I'm asking because it could be the reason/problem/whatever you're trying to address may be achievable by some other less-work means.

Cheers,
Christos

David -- I've searched several of my own activity logs in response to your inquiry, and I've yet to find a "resume membership" happen except in the context of a previous "removal for reporting spam." Could you share your Spam Control settings with us? Perhaps Restricted in combination with something else could lead to this sequence of entries. Please also report whatever feedback you get from those who actually experienced this.?

Spam control settings are:
Restricted Membership - checked
Announcement-Only Group - not checked
Message Moderation - Messages are not moderated
New Members Moderated - checked
Unmoderated After - 1 approved message

To be clear, you *do* want these guys to be in your group, right? If so, I suggest we avoid getting too excited over some peculiar log entries.

Actually, I don't think I do want them as members. Some background: back in September and October, I received a bunch of new membership applications, all from AOL addresses. The Pending Membership notice asks for a reason for them to request subscribing. I'm not too particular about what their reason is, as much as I just want a human response. After seeing more than one response that was just one line saying something along the lines of? 'I'm about to graduate and my professor said I should look at this site to get information about getting a job', I started getting suspicious and began looking more deeply into these applicants. Turns out that they all were coming from the same city in India, although a few of them were from the Netherlands. So I've stopped approving them (we're a group of railfans in New England; we know nothing about hiring people from halfway around the world). These three were already approved before my crackdown. The fact that all three 'left via web' within 24 hours and 'rejoined via web within 2 minutes the next day REALLY got my attention. They haven't posted any messages so they are still NMM, and I can't see that they have caused any problems, but the whole thing doesn't seem right to me. My next course of action if they don't respond to the message I sent them is to remove them and see what happens after that. If they come back again, I will ban them.?

I guess what I'm really trying to find out is if this some function that in 3 years of ownership I had never heard about or run across or if it is a bug I should report to Mark.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 02:59 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

IMHO part of the overall problem is that moderators have no sight of system generated messages to members so we have no idea what is said in them.

And as to that, I just tested it with my 'regular membership' account. That address got no emails; my owner address got member 'left via web' and <address> applied for membership via web notifications. After I approved that, I got the New Subscriber notification.

Got no mention of 'rejoining' the group at either address.

Dave?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 02:59 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

David; from your activity log find someone who "resumed membership" and then look at their individual activity history to see a fuller sequence of events; it's a lot easier than trying to piece things together from the global activity log and its constituent possibilities.

I've done that and there are 6 entries -
1.?w.................p@...?applied for membership via web? ? ? ?Oct 6
2. w.................p@... sent message??to owners via email? ? Oct 6
3. w.................p@...?sent message??to owners via email? ? Oct 7??
4.??approved?w.................p@...'s membership via web? ? ? ?Oct 7
5. w.................p@...?left via web? ? ? ? Dec 3
6. w.................p@...?resumed membership via web? ? ? ? Dec 4

The other two subscriptions have the same 6 entries.?

Dave

Is it possible to set it up such that all members (except owners and mods) need to post and reply from the web ONLY? In other words, you see a topic in email, but you have to click on a link to visit the topic online to reply??

I am not sure that I will, but wondered if possible, thanks.

Mod's note: added web-only to subject line