Hi Laurence

As far as I can see your last discussion must have been elsewhere as it doesn't show in the message archive of this group, just one mention of it in your reply Feb 9th to "Re: Absentee Owner Succession feature "

I have only been using groups.io since early January this year but that icon has always been there

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Laurence,

And Groups.io is the only one with no favicon at all.

I propose that in the group settings there could be three options:

1. Display the Groups.io favicon

I think option 1 is already implemented:

Against your tab bar's background color it is all but invisible, an unfortunate coincidence.

Shal


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You might consider staying on as co-owner in order to help out if something goes wrong. We have seen many people here say that the owner has disappeared, etc. and they are stuck.
Frances

Things fall from the sky.
I have see 2 long-term unrelated co-owners die within a month. The 3rd did not heed my insistance of a. Immediate mod-temporary-promotion. She took a 1 month trip and her email was hacked at a hotel and she is now in limbo... powerless, while still, "an owner."

SEALS? say, 2 is 1.
1 is none.

Have a spare key. Or have 2 co-ownerS. Or 3...! Skills can be learned. Choose a good heart.

BillSF9c

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:46 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:

I am turning the group over to a new owner and want to change the log-in from my personal email address to hers.?

Ann -- There is no groups.io function that reassigns your login credentials to someone else.

Do I just enter her email address instead of mine in Account/Email and then click "Change Email"??

No. That will initiate an account merge. You don't want to do that. Trust me!

You can readily promote someone who is already subscribed to your group to an Owner per the instructions previously provided by Frances. Having done so, you can then demote yourself to a mere Member, if you want. However, I concur with Frances that you stay on as a co-Owner for awhile to help bring her up to speed. This seems more reasonable than abandoning her to sink or swim.

And will that change cause notifications and permissions requests to go to her email address instead of mine?

Demoting yourself to Member should automatically turn off any unneeded permissions and notifications for you.

Promoting her to Owner will automatically turn on full permissions for her.* Any notifications that she may wish to receive will have to be turned on separately (see /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-moderator-notifications-about-group-activity?and /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/sending-and-receiving-group-owner-email-messages).

Hope this helps,
Bruce

*If you promote her to Moderator, her permissions will also have to be set manually.?

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I'd like to open the favicon discussion again, without the heat that was generated by the last discussion. It will be an optional feature, enabled by those owners that want it, and ignored by those who don't.?

Favicons are the tiny (usually 16x16 pixels) images that appear on the tabs of a tabbed browser. They facilitate switching among tabs when several are open. They are used almost universally. In the image below you will see favicons from well-known outfits like AT&T, IEEE, Amazon, Google, and Wikimedia. But you will not see a favicon for Group Managers Forum or NC-LTRGs.

In the early days of HTML (during the "browser wars"), before it was standardized, browser producers like Netscape and Microsoft introduced features to appear better than the competitors. Microsoft introduced the favicon (icon of a Favorite website) which later became a part of the official standard. There have been some false and biased reports claiming that favicons are dangerous or inefficient. (Seriously, how much damage or workload could you get from 256 bytes?) Unfortunately, during the last discussion, that false report was cited and the discussion veered from really addressing the merits of the proposal.

The merits are obvious. The image below represents my typical browser layout. In fact, I currently have two such images open. They include several tabs for the research I am currently doing (my retirement gig), several for the volunteer work I do (Boy Scouts, disaster recovery), several open as reminders for to-dos, work and personal emails. As you can see in the annotated image, almost all of the tabs except are readily recognized. AT&T's corporate blue is a little too close to Chrome's default tab color. And Groups.io is the only one with no favicon at all.

I propose that in the group settings there could be three options:

1. Display the Groups.io favicon
2. Display a favicon provided by the user
3. Display no favicon at all

The third one could be the default, to satisfy those owners who don't want a favicon. If the first or third one were the default, it would ease the setup burden for new group owners.

Hoping this email and image will generate more light and less heat than last time.

Larry

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:46 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:

I am turning the group over to a new owner and want to change the log-in from my personal email address to hers.? Do I just enter her email address instead of mine in Account/Email and then click "Change Email"?? And will that change cause notifications and permissions requests to go to her email address instead of mine?

You should promote the other person to owner.?
See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-moderators-and-additional-owners

You might consider staying on as co-owner in order to help out if something goes wrong. We have seen many people here say that the owner has disappeared, etc. and they are stuck.
You could change your notices so that you get fewer. ?Go to Subscriptions on your group and change your moderator notifications.

Frances
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I am turning the group over to a new owner and want to change the log-in from my personal email address to hers.? Do I just enter her email address instead of mine in Account/Email and then click "Change Email"?? And will that change cause notifications and permissions requests to go to her email address instead of mine?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 04:36 PM, Anita L wrote:

She has a free group and marked when it gets
close to the limit of attachments or memory for the earlier ones to be removed.
It says she is out of space. So when or how does the earlier attachments get removed?

Anita -- Old attachments are not deleted in real time based on this setting. I believe that job runs once a week. At that time, enough attachments will be deleted to get her back to 95% of quota, if possible.?

This setting applies only to attachments. If File and Photo uploads are taking up all her quota, those must be deleted manually.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:32 PM, Scott Mohr wrote:

Hi- I checked, and the messages needing moderation say that they are “requiring approval because the topic is moderated via email”.

This is happening on an emails that are definitely part of the group and have no alias...

Then you need to turn off moderation in that topic.

Make sure you are in topics view (/g/GROUPNAME/topics). Topics that are moderated will display a small balance or scale just before the subject line. Click the down-arrow and select Unmoderate Topic. I've circled both in the screenshot below.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 02:25 PM, Elizabeth Weise wrote:

Is there any other way?

Yes, contact support as advised in the Note of the "Setting up or disabling two-factor authentication" section of /helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information in the Members Manual.

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 04:36 PM, Anita L wrote:

She has a free group and marked when it gets
close to the limit of attachments or memory for the earlier ones to be removed.
It says she is out of space. So when or how does the earlier attachments get removed?
Does she have to notify Mark or someone here to do that?

Overview and more suggestions in Help: ?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/viewing-and-managing-your-group-s-storage

Frances

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That was it. Thank you. I'm not sure why the hashtag got moderated, but I've removed the requirement and I'm checking the others. Great to have an answer to this issue.
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Hi! I am asking this for a friend. She has a free group and marked when it gets
close to the limit of attachments or memory for the earlier ones to be removed.
It says she is out of space. So when or how does the earlier attachments get removed?
Does she have to notify Mark or someone here to do that?

Thanks

Anita

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 04:19 PM, Scott Mohr wrote:

Actually that’s how I have it, but I still get lots of emails daily with the subject “Message Approval Needed”:

Okay, check in Admin, in Activity, Message Activity to see why the messages are being moderated.
Perhaps they aren't using the email address they joined with. (They can add another email address - an email alias is they wish.?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information? )

Let us know what you see and we can help further.

Frances

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 03:43 PM, Scott Mohr wrote:

Team- I’d like to turn off moderation for all members.? I see how to turn it off for individuals under Members/Posting Privileges, but I’d like to just turn moderation off for all approved members.? Is there a single toggle for that?

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You can turn off moderation by changing your group to restricted membership. In Admin, Settings, Spam Control.

/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/customizing-group-settings/spam-control-and-moderation-settings

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