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Re: I keep having to approve my own messages. Why?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 09:13 AM, Kayelle Allen wrote:
I'm just writing a text response like I am now. But I keep having to go approve it, even though I'm the owner and not on moderation. I've looked at every aspect of the group and can't see any reason it should happen. I've even updated my profile. Nothing works.
Kayelle -- As Frances and Duane have both said, go to Admin>Activity. Every post to your group generates an entry in the log. If a post goes into moderation, the log entry will tell you why.

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Bruce

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Re: I keep having to approve my own messages. Why?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 09:13 AM, Kayelle Allen wrote:
I'm just writing a text response like I am now. But I keep having to go approve it, even though I'm the owner and not on moderation. I've looked at every aspect of the group and can't see any reason it should happen. I've even updated my profile. Nothing works.

Have you looked at Activity to see what your messages are doing??

For example, are you using a hashtag that requires moderation? Or are new topics moderated or moderated after a certain date?

You can go to Admin, Activity. See the notes about your account.?

Or if you have a lot of activity from other members, go to Admin, Members. Search for yourself and then click on your name. (Not the checkbox.) And then Activity History.

Frances
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Re: I keep having to approve my own messages. Why?

 

I'm just writing a text response like I am now. But I keep having to go approve it, even though I'm the owner and not on moderation. I've looked at every aspect of the group and can't see any reason it should happen. I've even updated my profile. Nothing works.
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Re: I keep having to approve my own messages. Why?

 

Thanks Duane and a BMaverick. It was the attachments that were causing the problem. It was hard to see because most messages had small attachments because of the nature of the group. I had wondered about that but didn¡¯t see anything in Message Settings, but knowing that the setting existed I was able to find it in Message Formatting.?

thanks again?


Re: Profile and Directory Query #profile #directory

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 05:45 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
I've just logged in with my test membership and, in the Directory, searched for me.? Guess what, two names appeared - me and the co-moderator.? Is this a bug?
That would depend on what you searched for and what the results were.? I'm sometimes caught off guard when I see a result I wasn't expecting, but it matches the search term in an unusual way.

Duane
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Re: Spammers attempting to join groups

 

Hi Donald

I have to say I have received replies to my pending subscription questions even more vague than that but turned out to be genuinely interested in the group, some people don't like answering questionnaires so keep it brief

Spammers tend not to reply to a pending subscription questionnaire at all or give a generic response, yours mentions amateur, I would not expect that from a spammer

If I had received that reply I might consider it is someone with an interest but not the best at communicating or using social media or English wasn't their first language

I might add them, or at least send them a message requesting more information, they would be moderated for their first message anyway and if that raised an eyebrow when received you could either unsub them or moderate for a longer period (I have it set as one post then unmoderate and that works well)

Your choice of course but just wondered if you were banning a legitimate subscriber

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 23/11/2020 02:16, Donald Hellen wrote:
We had a spammer try to join some ham radio groups. He made a very
general comment that was so general that we knew his next post would
be spam, so I notified the group owners and they took swift action.
I had another suspicious person try to join one of my ham radio groups
today. I let him join but instantly put him on full moderation. His
comment when applying to join was this:
"I'm an amateur and find this group to be interesting to my needs.
Thanks,"


Re: Profile and Directory Query #profile #directory

 

Interesting - I have two accounts - one as an owner/moderator ( there is also a co-moderator) and the other as a test.? I've just logged in with my test membership and, in the Directory, searched for me.? Guess what, two names appeared - me and the co-moderator.? Is this a bug?
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Re: Spammers attempting to join groups

 

We use the 1 approved post before being able to post without
moderation, but we're thinking of changing that to 2.

Donald

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 22:08:21 -0500, "Larry Finch" <Finches@...>
wrote:


One of the great features of gio is you can set it to automatically set new
subscribers to moderation, and have it automatically remove them from
moderation after a set number of moderated posts, up to 4.

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Re: Spammers attempting to join groups

 

Donald,

Is there a way to inspect the email manually to get the originating IP
address since it may not be present if they subscribe by email?
Not that I know of. I don't believe that messages sent to the +subscribe address are stored anywhere. Just the activity log.

Shal


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Re: Spammers attempting to join groups

 



On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 9:19 PM Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:
We had a spammer try to join some ham radio groups. He made a very
general comment that was so general that we knew his next post would
be spam, so I notified the group owners and they took swift action.

I had another suspicious person try to join one of my ham radio groups
today. I let him join but instantly put him on full moderation.

One of the great features of gio is you can set it to automatically set new subscribers to moderation, and have it automatically remove them from moderation after a set number of moderated posts, up to 4.?

We use it on all groups we host.?

Larry


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Re: Spammers attempting to join groups

 

Is there a way to inspect the email manually to get the originating IP
address since it may not be present if they subscribe by email?

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:27:05 -0800, "Duane" <txpigeon@...>
wrote:



If they apply via email using the +subscribe address, none of the extra information is included.? If they apply via the web, it's included.? The email will tell you if they applied via web or email.? Makes no difference which device you're reading the email on.

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Re: Spammers attempting to join groups

 

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 08:19 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
I noticed on my phone email that the IP address, city, and country
were listed. I also receive all my emails at home and after then they
are deleted from the server. The email received from home did not show
the IP address, city, or country of that person.
If they apply via email using the +subscribe address, none of the extra information is included.? If they apply via the web, it's included.? The email will tell you if they applied via web or email.? Makes no difference which device you're reading the email on.

Duane
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Spammers attempting to join groups

 

We had a spammer try to join some ham radio groups. He made a very
general comment that was so general that we knew his next post would
be spam, so I notified the group owners and they took swift action.

I had another suspicious person try to join one of my ham radio groups
today. I let him join but instantly put him on full moderation. His
comment when applying to join was this:

"I'm an amateur and find this group to be interesting to my needs.
Thanks,"

Similar to a post another (or the same?) person made in that other
group. You can see it's so general that it's not at all relevant to
our group.

I think it was here that someone mentioned these spammers had IP
addresses from Belgium and this latest one who joined my group had one
I forget the city (or region) but I think it was the same city/region
someone else mentioned was the IP address of a potential spammer. It
might have been Flanders (though there is an east and west Flanders).

I noticed on my phone email that the IP address, city, and country
were listed. I also receive all my emails at home and after then they
are deleted from the server. The email received from home did not show
the IP address, city, or country of that person.

Is there something I need to do in my email program to display this
part of the message that my phone email program displays?

I'd like to see this information so I can be proactive and put those
people on moderation in case they are spammers, but I don't want to
ban everyone from that area in case they are legitimate ham radio
operators, and we even welcome radio enthusiasts and short wave
listeners, too.

Donald


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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Re: I keep having to approve my own messages. Why?

 

Kayelle,

In my moderated group, I need to approve ANY message from ANYONE that has a FILE attachment or PHOTO attachment.? This way, the attachments are screened first and cleared before sending out to the group.? Even for Owner and moderators.? In a way, it helps 'just in case' the wrong file or photo was attached, I can back out the send to group.? I look at the feature as a 'plus' feature vs. not having a wait a moment to re-check.

BMaverick
Yanmar Tractor Owners Group
If it's green, you then have a John Deere.
If it's yellow you then have a Cub Cadet.
All the same tractor, just a different paint job.


Re: Where Is Admin Area?

 

Lee,

If you are not into GIO with the same email that you used when you created
the group, you are someone else. That's my first guess. The other is that
you are on the web, but just viewing public views and you aren't logged in
at all. Either of these sound possible.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Re: Where Is Admin Area?

 

It should look like this photo. Note the word "Owner" next to the Home link.

Is it possible you have more than one account, and that you're logged into a different account than the one you used to start the group?


Re: Where Is Admin Area?

 

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 07:23 PM, Lee KV5M wrote:
I started the group.? Why would I not be listed as the owner with administrative privileges??

I stated the group for my club, the Walker County Amateur Group, several months ago as an experiment, but I did nothing with it for a time.? Now I want to get my club members active on it.
Log in with the email address you used to create the group (unless you changed it on the group.).
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/35145

Admin is a dropdown menu. Open it up.

Frances
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Re: Where Is Admin Area?

 

I started the group.? Why would I not be listed as the owner with administrative privileges??

I stated the group for my club, the Walker County Amateur Group, several months ago as an experiment, but I did nothing with it for a time.? Now I want to get my club members active on it.


Re: Question about owner being unsubbed

 

Thanks it never said spam. It just said I was unsubbed by me
via the web. It did have a link to reinstate myself if this was an
error. Maybe because I am an owner and saw I got unsubbed
it was giving me a chance to reinstate myself.
The issue I have is it was not spam and I did not do this.
I only have one other owner who I am very good friends with
and she did not do this. It is really puzzling me.

I did have a member who left last night but she couldnt unsub
me since she is not a mod or owner?

Thanks. Will just move on and hope it wont happen again.

Anita


Re: Where Is Admin Area?

 

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It is below ¡®Subscription¡¯ and above ¡®Messages¡¯ near top left.

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You only see ¡®Admin¡¯ there if you are a group owner or moderator in a particular group.? The word ¡®Owner¡¯ appears next to the little house icon for ¡®home¡¯

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If you are an ordinary member of a group there is nothing between ¡®Subscription¡¯ and ¡®Messages¡¯

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Jeff

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lee KV5M
Sent: 22 November 2020 22:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Where Is Admin Area?

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I do not see ADMIN n the left column menu as stated in HELP.? Where can I find it?