On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 03:08 AM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
Why else would one ask the question the way the OP did then??
Sorry, but the way the original question was posed makes it impossible to infer any particular reason for wanting to move a photo.
?the minute someone uploads a file to the group's site, they are losing a bit of control over it, same as putting it out in the Wild.Wild.West.?
Losing a bit of control is one thing; losing all control over it (as per your Wild Wild West) is another matter entirely.
I do agree the admins should communicate with the image uploaders though, but I think your concern about ethics is overblown, and not really applicable in this case.
Clearly I hope my concerns are inapplicable in this case, but please bear in mind that as written the intent might be to move a photo from a group where its originator is a member to another group where he or she is not a member, and for whatever reason actively does not want to be a member. You cannot say that my concerns are not really applicable in this case because you have no more idea of what the OP wants to do than I have. My point is that anyone wishing to relocate a photo (other than between albums in an archive) should proceed with caution and try to obtain the agreement of the photo's originator. If that agreement is withheld then IMHO it would be wrong to move it. (Perhaps perversely, it would then be OK to delete it!) If a group becomes like the Wild Wild West it can only be because the group's owners and moderators have allowed it to become so, or even caused it themselves. Chris
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Re: How to find all the Not Confirmed "members"
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 06:49 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
However, I can't find a way to search for them, or sort the membership list by status. Do I really have to trawl though the Membership list and look for the badge??
No, but the solution isn't all that straightforward. I suggest that you download your members list and convert the resulting csv file into a spreadsheet. There will be a column headed "User Status"; a value of 0 in that column denotes Not Confirmed, so a bit of sorting will show all the NC members for the group in question and of course their email addresses can be taken from the relevant column. Not difficult, but not "instant" either. Chris
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Re: How to find all the Not Confirmed "members"
Yes, you have to trawl through membership list to find them. They didn't follow up to confirm their subscription.? I? would send notices to those ones two times, and after that, remove from list because they are not getting posts as far as I know.
David Samuelsen (has several lists)
While looking for a mystery member in one of my groups, I saw far too many NC badges (not confirmed). I did scroll down to the bottom and clicked "send confirmation" -- but I would prefer to write them from my email and warn them that the notice is on the way, and they won't get email until they click reply and send.
However, I can't find a way to search for them, or sort the membership list by status. Do I really have to trawl though the Membership list and look for the badge??
I have lots of groups (too many!) so I'm looking for efficiency, if possible.
Valorie
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How to find all the Not Confirmed "members"
While looking for a mystery member in one of my groups, I saw far too many NC badges (not confirmed). I did scroll down to the bottom and clicked "send confirmation" -- but I would prefer to write them from my email and warn them that the notice is on the way, and they won't get email until they click reply and send.
However, I can't find a way to search for them, or sort the membership list by status. Do I really have to trawl though the Membership list and look for the badge??
I have lots of groups (too many!) so I'm looking for efficiency, if possible.
Valorie
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Chris,
>>> That presupposes that the intention is to set up
a new group and close down an old one, which may be correct
but equally well may not.
Why else would one ask the question the way the OP did then??
Any why else would one move an image from one group to another?? The
only other reason I can think of is that the image was posted in the
wrong group or something, and it needs to be moved to the right
place, that's one of the admin things owners/admins do; that can
also include deleting an uploaded image and nobody can do anything
about it, the minute someone uploads a file to the group's site,
they are losing a bit of control over it, same as putting it out in
the Wild.Wild.West.? I do agree the admins should communicate with
the image uploaders though, but I think your concern about ethics is
overblown, and not really applicable in this case.
Cheers,
Christos
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Thanks Bruce(2)
I undid the Message formatting, saved it, then re-entered the
Force HTML. Logged out.
Just sent a test message and no change to the footer. UGH!
So I logged in again, removed the formatting. Logged out. Waited
a couple of minutes. Logged in again and set the HTML
formatting. Logged out. Waited a minute and sent another test
message. No joy -? still no footer as I want it.
Is it a case of surrender and let groups.io win?
Bruce Fairhall
On 14-Nov-20 11:42 am, Bruce Bowman
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Thanks Bruce anmd Shal
I just double-checked and I do have Force HTML Formatting set for
messages. I sent to my test group a message and it arrived with that
apparent text footer, not the larger font blue HTML footer as on
this Forum.
I checked the wiki and cannot see what I am setting or not setting
incorrectly:
In Settings >> Message Formatting I have
??? Force HTML Emails set
??? Normalise HTML emails NOT SET
??? Plain text only NOT SET
Further advice needed, please.
Bruce Fairhall
On 13-Nov-20 5:33 pm, Shal Farley
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Bruce,
> The footer in GMF is very different to what I get as default
(?) in my
> test message.
That has nothing to do with group settings. The footer in your
screenshot is from a plain text message.
As Bruce B said:
? See also /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452
> I would just like to know where I can configure it, please.
You can force messages in your group to have a Formatted footer by
checking the Force HTML Emails box in the Message Formatting panel
of your group's Settings page.
> For example, we only want messages posted by email, although
the
> view/reply online is a possible option.
I don't think there is a way to prevent members from posting via
the web interface.
Shal
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On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 09:04 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
Yes, save it to your hard drive, then upload it to the new group.
That presupposes that the intention is to set up a new group and close down an old one, which may be correct but equally well may not. In the absence of "further and better particulars" I have a concern about the ethics of moving photos from one group to another unless the originators of the photos have agreed to the move. Specifically see Terms of Service / Conditions of Use / User Conduct Para 1. 1. (i), possibly 1. 4. (iv) and the entire section about Intellectual Property Rights. Chris
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Yes, save it to your hard drive, then upload it to the new group.
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Paul,? You mention harvesting addresses in a "low key" fashion while in a pending status and you just delete them right away.? It was my understanding that they can not see anything that is set to only be seen by full members in the group settings.? Am I wrong about that...anyone?
John P
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Is there a way to move photos from one group to another?
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Re: Reply to links in email sent from Announcement-Only Group
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 02:30 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:
Why would there be Reply To Group, Reply To Sender, and New Topic links in the
footer of messages from an announcement-only group? As expected, if I reply, a
failure message is returned:
500: This is an announcement group and you do not have permission to post to
it.
looks like an oversight
I couldn't find discussion of this in Beta or this forum and wonder if it
would be worth a beta suggestion to remove these links for announcement-only
groups.
yes, sure Another thing though... announcement-group may not be the best name for it. There are announcement-groups, aka groups that ban discussion, in which all members/subscribers can post announcements groetjes/?is, Ronaldo
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Re: How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 07:27 AM, Daniel Kegan wrote:
I infer Topics can be set in web-based message, and a ¡°Topic¡± is defined by its # Hashtag.
If no Hashtag has been assigned by sender to the message, there is no Topic, and thus
¡°Deleting Topic¡± will do nothing, not even Delete all Messages with no Topic.
Topics don't necessarily have hashtags, it's just a group of related messages.? If you click Delete Topic from that page, it will delete that Topic and all the messages in it.? To delete a single message, you have to open the Topic, then use the More menu under the specific message. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
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Re: Privacy settings (was: Re: Can a remember remove his own posts?? Not finding the answer....)
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Privacy settings (was: Re: Can a remember remove his own posts?? Not finding the answer....)
Are the privacy settings for google search accessible thru groups.io or elsewhere?? Our chats are members only, definitely not for outside viewing.
thanks!
Lynn SJREIA
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Re: How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)
Shal, ? ? Friday ? 13 November 2020
1. Thanks. My Safari on Mac browser doesn¡¯t seem to display those interface elements, at least not that I can see, or hunt and find. What browser are you using? 2 Attachments.
2. I skimmed the Owner¡¯s Manual, on Topics. I infer Topics can be set in web-based message, and a ¡°Topic¡± is defined by its # Hashtag. If no Hashtag has been assigned by sender to the message, there is no Topic, and thus ¡°Deleting Topic¡± will do nothing, not even Delete all Messages with no Topic.
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On Nov 13, 2020, at 1:29 AM, Shal Farley via < shals2nd@...> wrote: Daniel, > How does a manager delete a posted message from server? Hmm... This appears to have escaped the Members and Owners manuals. There is the related subject of deleting whole topics: /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-group-topics-and-messages/deleting-topicsFor an individual message look in the More menu, in the bar under the message. > (sent emails would remain sent I gather) Correct. Some email systems used internally by organizations have an "unsend" capability. And Gmail's web interface has a feature to delay sending for a period of time. But generally speaking, in the world of email once the message has left the sender's email service there's nothing that can be done to "unsend" it. One exception: if you delete a message from the group's web interface it will not be included in any Digests sent after that time. However, Digests are individually crafted for each member, so if you have a high-traffic group you can't (in general) be sure that the message didn't go out in some member's digest after it was posted but before you deleted it. Shal
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Re: How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)
Daniel, How does a manager delete a posted message from server? Hmm... This appears to have escaped the Members and Owners manuals. There is the related subject of deleting whole topics: /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-group-topics-and-messages/deleting-topicsFor an individual message look in the More menu, in the bar under the message. (sent emails would remain sent I gather) Correct. Some email systems used internally by organizations have an "unsend" capability. And Gmail's web interface has a feature to delay sending for a period of time. But generally speaking, in the world of email once the message has left the sender's email service there's nothing that can be done to "unsend" it. One exception: if you delete a message from the group's web interface it will not be included in any Digests sent after that time. However, Digests are individually crafted for each member, so if you have a high-traffic group you can't (in general) be sure that the message didn't go out in some member's digest after it was posted but before you deleted it. Shal -- Help: /helpcenterMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Footers (was: customize invitation)
Thanks, Shal
I thought I had set mesages to HTML. Need for some review!
Bruce Fairhall
On 13-Nov-20 5:33 pm, Shal Farley
wrote:
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Bruce,
> The footer in GMF is very different to what I get as default
(?) in my
> test message.
That has nothing to do with group settings. The footer in your
screenshot is from a plain text message.
As Bruce B said:
? See also /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452
> I would just like to know where I can configure it, please.
You can force messages in your group to have a Formatted footer by
checking the Force HTML Emails box in the Message Formatting panel
of your group's Settings page.
> For example, we only want messages posted by email, although
the
> view/reply online is a possible option.
I don't think there is a way to prevent members from posting via
the web interface.
Shal
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Valorie Zimmerman
Christos Psarras
Bruce
Gene
Duane
Frances
Daniel Kegan
Shal Farley