Yes, I realised that - probably should have worded my email differently. What I was wondering was whether it was as easy for spammers to bulk harvest and torment group owners in io as in yahoo groups. Is there no way this could be made harder? Some sort of filter before they get to us maybe? It wouldn't be easy for me to drop my yahoo email addresses at this point but are there email providers who can intercept this type of spam?
Louise
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On 14 Mar 2016, at 17:34, Xaun Loc wrote:
ANY email address is "potentially open to these attacks
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-----Original Message----- From: Louise via Groups.io Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 04:26 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [GMF] Spam I'm being deluged by spam to my yahoo list owner addresses. They're all the unpaid invoice threatening emails that I've read are either phishing attempts or contain links with ransom ware. I am careful of course but worried I might click on something by mistake. Just wondering if io group owner addresses are potentially open to these attacks even if less likely as io has fewer groups so far? Thanks, Louise
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This is certainly not limited to Yahoo Groups. One of my discussion groups on the Temple University server has been receiving spam messages from a non-subscriber. None have reached the list, but I get error notices for every single one and as a result I am deleting between one hundred to two hundred of these messages daily. Once spammers get an email address, they post to it robotically whether successful or not.
Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@...
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2016, Louise via Groups.io wrote: I'm being deluged by spam to my yahoo list owner addresses. They're all the
unpaid invoice threatening emails that I've read are either phishing attempts
or contain links with ransom ware. I am careful of course but worried I might
click on something by mistake.
Just wondering if io group owner addresses are potentially open to these attacks
even if less likely as io has fewer groups so far?
Thanks,
Louise
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Any email address, even if it hasn't been used on a public page, is subject to the spam attacks. The ones that are hot-linked, such as on the Home page of our groups, seem to be added to spam lists more often though. It depends on whether the spammers use sequential addressing to every possible address or harvest them from the web. Apparently there are still enough people that click on the evil links to make it worthwhile to the spammers. There are also the "script kiddies" that do it for fun, just to see if they can.
Looking through the activity logs, I already see one or two (some days, many more) attempted posts by non subscribers nearly every day to most of my groups - usually spam.
Duane
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My Groups.io groups are getting attempts to email the group (about one per week) from the phony addresses re 'your electric bill' to email the group. They are logged as attempts by non-subscribers and (of course) rejected. There has been no email to my owner addresses.
I don't know what's going on in yahoo groups. I don't go there any more.
J
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On Mar 14, 2016, at 1:26 AM, Louise via Groups.io <knitlou@...> wrote:
I'm being deluged by spam to my yahoo list owner addresses. They're all the
unpaid invoice threatening emails that I've read are either phishing attempts
or contain links with ransom ware. I am careful of course but worried I might
click on something by mistake.
Just wondering if io group owner addresses are potentially open to these attacks
even if less likely as io has fewer groups so far?
Thanks,
Louise
Sent from my iPad
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I have been getting similar emails to yahogroup -owner email addresses, so I am interested in the answer to this as well.
I'm being deluged by spam to my yahoo list owner addresses. They're all the
unpaid invoice threatening emails that I've read are either phishing attempts
or contain links with ransom ware. I am careful of course but worried I might
click on something by mistake.
Just wondering if io group owner addresses are potentially open to these attacks
even if less likely as io has fewer groups so far?
Thanks,
Louise
Sent from my iPad
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I'm being deluged by spam to my yahoo list owner addresses. They're all the
unpaid invoice threatening emails that I've read are either phishing attempts
or contain links with ransom ware. I am careful of course but worried I might
click on something by mistake.
Just wondering if io group owner addresses are potentially open to these attacks
even if less likely as io has fewer groups so far?
Thanks,
Louise
Sent from my iPad
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Thanks, Duane, I'll do that. J
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: I don't believe there are any ads yet.? Mark mentioned once that he wanted to get the site out of beta mode before pursuing them.? There are several email services that insert footer ads.? Mark has managed to trap a lot of them, but it's still on Trello:
If you can forward him a copy of the offending emails, I think it makes it easier to add to the filtering.? Besides Avast and Inbox.com mentioned on Trello, he's also done Juno and a couple of others.? It might be worth asking if he can post a list of all of them.? Or maybe just add those on the Trello card, too.
Duane
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Duane, ?I did notice there are ads in the Yahoo GMF group.. ? None in GMF ?,io... The ads are at the bottom of each group message I receive in my inbox . It's ?aol ads.. I noticed that today..
Vickie ?
From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:22 PM
Subject: [GMF] Re: ads?
I don't believe there are any ads yet.? Mark mentioned once that he wanted to get the site out of beta mode before pursuing them.? There are several email services that insert footer ads.? Mark has managed to trap a lot of them, but it's still on Trello:
If you can forward him a copy of the offending emails, I think it makes it easier to add to the filtering.? Besides Avast and Inbox.com mentioned on Trello, he's also done Juno and a couple of others.? It might be worth asking if he can post a list of all of them.? Or maybe just add those on the Trello card, too.
Duane
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I've seen a couple from Juno sneak through on my groups, too. Probably a tweak needed to keep them all at bay.
Duane
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p.s. I'm now seeing that this is a juno.com message. So perhaps the juno filtering is not working yet?
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I don't believe there are any ads yet. Mark mentioned once that he wanted to get the site out of beta mode before pursuing them. There are several email services that insert footer ads. Mark has managed to trap a lot of them, but it's still on Trello:
If you can forward him a copy of the offending emails, I think it makes it easier to add to the filtering. Besides Avast and Inbox.com mentioned on Trello, he's also done Juno and a couple of others. It might be worth asking if he can post a list of all of them. Or maybe just add those on the Trello card, too.
Duane
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Has anyone noticed Grouos.io running ads? A couple of ads (or links to ads) have appeared below emails coming from group members via the group, but I'm not sure whether they're coming from the users' signature lines or Groujs.io or something else. If no answers here, I wil ask the group members in question . Thanks.
J
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Re: searching on a member, and the @ sign
Correct. I don't have a public profile, so don't have an @name. That happens when you create a User Name (AKA short name) on your Profile page, which must be unique on the site (mine is blank): /editprofile?page=profileYou have a public profile, so anyone can see it if they know what your User Name is: /profile/J_catladyIf you look for /profile/Duane, you'll be taken to the site home page (Your Subscriptions) since it doesn't exist. Maybe it's just not obvious to me, but I don't see why it would be useful. If it's posted in a message on a group I'm in, I'll read it. If it's on another group, I wouldn't be able to read it anyway on a private group. Another thought. What if you get in a hurry and include @Dunae by accident. If there's someone using that name, they'll get the notification. I wouldn't and you might wonder why I didn't respond. Of course, I'd expect to see some sort of error message if the short name didn't exist at all, but that could get complicated quickly. Duane
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Re: searching on a member, and the @ sign
Duane, When I set up a profile, the @ sign was added automatically, not (seemingly) by anything I did. So I'm confused by you saying it's "used to set up a profile." In any case, I think it would be great if it could be used like in twitter, so that when I include, for example, @Duane in a message, you would get a notification. And also, I think it would be great if one could do a search on a username in Groups.io - for example, I look for "Dua" and you (and anyone else whose name starts with that) would come up. Perhaps I'll suggest these on beta as wishlist items. J
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Re: searching on a member, and the @ sign
As far as I can remember, it's only used to set up a site Profile. I prefer not to have one of those, but I know many folks have them. I can't think of a reason to be able to search site wide for them, other than curiosity. Unless someone is in a group that I belong to, I don't see why I'd be interested in any particular person.
There's an item on the Trello list to be able to search messages by sender, but that's the closest I could come on finding anything related.
Duane
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searching on a member, and the @ sign
Can someone here outline how the @[membername] thing can be used? I know that as a group owner, I can click on it within a member's page and be taken to the member's profile. But can it be used to search on Groups.io members in general and find their profiles - not necessarily as a group owner? In fact, is there any ability to search for a Groups.io members in general, using their username or a portion of their username, from anything other than a member's page within the member list? Thanks for any info. If this ability is nonexistent, or nobody knows about it, I will post on beta.? Thanks. J
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Re: possibly OT subject, unusual membership application process
J,
By the way, member management - including questions and advice about unusual or troublesome situations - is perfectly on topic here. But a reminder to everyone that GMF's archive is open to the public, so thank you for not posting any personal identifiers.
Shal
GMF Owner
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Re: moderation - relationship to "reply to sender" messages
Thanks, Shal. I'm running low on test members to try things out on.;)
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On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
J,
Can members on moderation freely "reply to sender" via the group? Yes. Just tested it.
It does not decrement their NuM count.
And the member gets a BCC of the message back to his/herself.
Shal
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Re: moderation - relationship to "reply to sender" messages
J, Can members on moderation freely "reply to sender" via the group? Yes. Just tested it. It does not decrement their NuM count. And the member gets a BCC of the message back to his/herself. Shal
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