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Re: invite list has to be approved?

 

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When I uploaded my list of 300 members ?to for invites I had to wait until they were approved by then sent out.?That was done I think with in about 2-3 hours. ?All invites got sent out and I have everyone back on the list including some new members to. I guess they weed out the bad email addresses maybe?

On Dec 15, 2017, at 12:33 AM, jkm <jkmoffat@...> wrote:


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On Dec 14, 2017, at 03:11 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

...., when approves your uploaded Invite list they are all
approved at once.

The 20/day is a trigger for when approval is required, not an actual
rate limit on the approvals.

In what sort of circumstances would approval be required for invitations??? I must be missing something, here.

J
Re: invite list has to be approved?

jkm
 


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On Dec 14, 2017, at 03:11 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

...., when Groups.io approves your uploaded Invite list they are all
approved at once.

The 20/day is a trigger for when approval is required, not an actual
rate limit on the approvals.

In what sort of circumstances would approval be required for invitations??? I must be missing something, here.

J
Re: Group sends 2 messages

J_Catlady
 

I have a mental image of us being in lifeboats welcoming hundreds (?) of sudden yahoo survivors on board....maybe goes along with my image of yahoo as the Deepwater Horizon from the other night ;)
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J
Re: invite list has to be approved?

 

Ah good, so I did it right then 2 months ago. Goody gum drops.

On Dec 14, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Sarah,

Woops, I uploaded the text file for my group about 2 months ago. Will
they just be sent 20 invites per day at a time?
No, when Groups.io approves your uploaded Invite list they are all approved at once.

The 20/day is a trigger for when approval is required, not an actual rate limit on the approvals.

Shal
Re: Group sends 2 messages

Jeremy Dummler
 

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Hello Shai,
The group has the Reply To set to ¡°Group¡±. I want any replay to a message sent to the email address for the group to go to all members.

Jeremy

On Dec 14, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Jeremy,

When someone sends a message to my ?group, I get two copies.? One to the group, and one to the group and me.? How do I shut off one of those?

Are these messages replies to something you posted? If so I think either 1) your group has its Reply To set to "Group and Sender", or 2) the respondent is using the "Reply All" feature of their email interface. In either case you would be receiving one copy directly from the respondent (the one that is to the group and you), and one copy as a member of the group (the one that is only to the group). These two messages should differ in t hat the one direct from the respondent would not have the group footers at the bottom (except it might have a quoted copy of them).

If you mean all posts to the group then something else is going on, and I'd need more info to figure out what.

Shal
Re: Group sends 2 messages

 

Jeremy,

When someone sends a message to my ?group, I get two copies.? One to the group, and one to the group and me.? How do I shut off one of those?

Are these messages replies to something you posted? If so I think either 1) your group has its Reply To set to "Group and Sender", or 2) the respondent is using the "Reply All" feature of their email interface. In either case you would be receiving one copy directly from the respondent (the one that is to the group and you), and one copy as a member of the group (the one that is only to the group). These two messages should differ in t hat the one direct from the respondent would not have the group footers at the bottom (except it might have a quoted copy of them).

If you mean all posts to the group then something else is going on, and I'd need more info to figure out what.

Shal
Group sends 2 messages

Jeremy Dummler
 

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Hello,
When someone sends a message to my ?group, I get two copies. ?One to the group, and one to the group and me. ?How do I shut off one of those?

Thanks!
Jeremy
Re: large numbers bouncing

 

Rachel,

Maybe the Yahoo numbers were off the whole time and I'd have no way to
know -- but I'm wondering if anyone else saw a huge uptick in bouncing
emails?
It wasn't huge in my case, but after the transfer of two of my groups I saw several email addresses move to bouncing. I believe that these were addresses that had in fact "gone bad" but for whatever reason Yahoo had failed to set them on bouncing status.

Do folks message these people directly? I don't have too much faith in
a "bounce probe".
I tried sending to a couple of them directly, but for most I just looked at the Reason given for the Recent Bounces (in the member's Email Delivery tab).

For example "554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account" - reasons like that I accepted at face value: I don't expect that a direct message would be any different.

Also, since these were groups of people who know each other IRL, in many cases I was able to verify that the person had another membership under a working address.

Shal
Re: invite list has to be approved?

 

Sarah,

Woops, I uploaded the text file for my group about 2 months ago. Will
they just be sent 20 invites per day at a time?
No, when Groups.io approves your uploaded Invite list they are all approved at once.

The 20/day is a trigger for when approval is required, not an actual rate limit on the approvals.

Shal
large numbers bouncing

 

I moved two groups of about 1400 members ... the YahooGroups showed no bouncing members but now that we are on IO I have
70 and 61 bouncing members .. Maybe the Yahoo numbers were off the whole time and I'd have no way to know -- but I'm wondering if anyone
else saw a huge uptick in bouncing emails?

Do folks message these people directly? I don't have too much faith in a "bounce probe".

Thanks,
Rachel
Re: What will you do with your Y! Groups?

David P. Dillard
 

Back in 2004 I had my first group suddenly disappear from Yahoo permanently. My theme song since then is to back it up. If that ever happens one has simply lost their entire content forever, unless one wishes and can reconstruct the content from their email in a new group and that is a huge undertaking.

All enjoy the coming holiday season.

Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I don't believe in dupes. One place for the group and that's it. I'm very very organized that way. I did that for another group. Give them a month to move and if they did not they didn't and have to either contact me or except the invite I gave them during the transfer. If they did not they will be left behind Since I see them on other social platforms they come back to the group if they so choose, Iv'e kept most of these three hundred members over the corse of I think 13 years now and over 5 moves of said group.

Take care

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Re: What will you do with your Y! Groups?

 

Hey all, I know I've been absent, but I saw this topic and decided to weigh in.

I have not deleted, but closed all of my Y-Groups to posting except Mods and Members. I created an alternate place on groups.io for M & M people to come, but John has always felt that itwould not be appropriate to bring over (i.e. transfer), the entire Yahoo Crusade group to Mark's site. So I have never done that.

John felt it would be like putting a group on Mark's site that would be competing with Mark because the main purpose of the group was to get Yahoo to restore Classic Groups. I no longer believe that can ever happen. But the members asked me to leave it open, and so it remains open, with archives available, and people like yourself, Shal, who help to answer questions that are far out of my league. And I really appreciate that.

Any other Y-groups I'm involved in, I am simply a member in, and occasionally, like in our old BBS one, people will post. One person just did that this week.

I have simply become too overwhelmed with real life (my elderly parents and more), that I have had to stop trying to stay on top of Beta, and I very marginally stay on top some reading in here.

I don't see a reason people should delete their groups either. I did bring the entire archives of MM over here, because it had a ton of information I didn't want to just disappear, but as I said, I have never transferred the 600 member database here.

Besides, for quite awhile, Yahoo wouldn't even let you delete a group, or even leave one. As for deleting my Yahoo mail accounts, I wouldn't even consider it, as we pay for AT&T Internet, and that is the same as Yahoo. I keep hoping though, that maybe AT&T will decide that it wants to run a server independent of Yahoo.

Anyway, that's my opinion on it all.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#
Re: What will you do with your Y! Groups?

 

I don't believe in dupes. One place for the group and that's it. I'm very very organized that way. I did that for another group. Give them a month to move and if they did not they didn't and have to either contact me or except the invite I gave them during the transfer. If they did not they will be left behind Since I see them on other social platforms they come back to the group if they so choose, Iv'e kept most of these three hundred members over the corse of I think 13 years now and over 5 moves of said group.

Take care

On Dec 13, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Arno Martens <snetram@...> wrote:

Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:07:40 -0800, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...>,
wrote:

Sarah,

I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once
all the archives and stuff are transferred over.
Why?
Maybe she is upset seeing these addresses:

"Douglas Swearingen via Groups.Io" <dougiebehr460@...>


I see no point to doing that. I don't buy the idea that it somehow deprives
Verizon/Oath of income, and even if I did I have no interest in doing so -
that would mostly punish other users who for whatever reason still use that
platform.

Whereas I do see value in having the old groups stand as "we've moved"
signs. I've left all the content and membership in place, but have turned
off members' ability to post new web content, and moderated all messages so
that I can re-direct the sender to the new groups here.

Shal

Fully agree with all you said.

I do have an exception and that is a private list for my wife where US,
UK, AUS and CDN users are only put on be me, upon invitation, and I have
mete them all in person over the years.
Attrition makes the list smaller every year and there is no need to keep
the old one.

Arno
Re: invite list has to be approved?

 

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Woops, I uploaded the text file for my group about 2 months ago. Will they just be sent 20 invites per day at a time? I think all of that ?was ?done already. I won't worry about it if not. I'll just resend as I have a back up from a few months ago.


Take care all.

On Dec 13, 2017, at 4:47 PM, moderator <list-owner@...> wrote:

Thanks all. Looks like there is a limit/day but the list got approved within hours of submission, which is not a big deal for me.

- bill

Re: New io group not activated

J_Catlady
 

I'm not sure how old your group is, but if a 2007 message is at the top, is it possible you're viewing the messages in chrono order (oldest at the top) instead of reverse chrono order? If your group started in 2007, click the "Date" button at the top right of the messages list and that will reverse the order.

J

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:36 PM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:
> Looks that all is in place! Only thing is that is nto right is the old messages
> stop at the year 2007, nothing newer....

One of my groups ran into that. Contact the [email protected] address and report the problem with details about which messages came across and which didn't. It is usually a small glitch in the process that can be easily fixed on Mark's end and the remainder moved over.

Dano
Re: New io group not activated

 

Looks that all is in place! Only thing is that is nto right is the old messages
stop at the year 2007, nothing newer....
One of my groups ran into that. Contact the [email protected] address and report the problem with details about which messages came across and which didn't. It is usually a small glitch in the process that can be easily fixed on Mark's end and the remainder moved over.

Dano
Re: What will you do with your Y! Groups?

 

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I agree.? There are valid reasons for leaving a skeleton.

Cacky


On 12/13/2017 5:07 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Sarah,

I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred?over.

Why?

I see no point to doing that. I don't buy the idea that it somehow deprives Verizon/Oath of income, and even if I did I have no interest in doing so - that would mostly punish other users who for whatever reason still use that platform.

Whereas I do see value in having the old groups stand as "we've moved" signs. I've left all the content and membership in place, but have turned off members' ability to post new web content, and moderated all messages so that I can re-direct the sender to the new groups here.

Shal
Re: What will you do with your Y! Groups?

 

Arno,

Maybe she is upset seeing these addresses:

"Douglas Swearingen via Groups.Io" <dougiebehr460=yahoo.com@groups.io>

Heh, there is that.

But if changing to another provider beware: Yahoo isn't the only one that requires mangling. AOL does and I think Hotmail too.

Shal
Re: What will you do with your Y! Groups?

 

We will post a notice that the groups have been moved and set all posts to be moderated, along with shutting down posting of new files, photos, etc. If anyone show up they will get a message that the groups have moved. We are constrained a bit because the original, and sole, owner of the group, lost his login credentials, which are associated with a non-yahoo address and yahoo won't let him recover them. We can't delete the group even if we wish to do so.

bill
Re: invite list has to be approved?

 

Thanks all. Looks like there is a limit/day but the list got approved within hours of submission, which is not a big deal for me.

- bill
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