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Re: No Subgroup tab

 

When did you create the group Dave ?

If 15th Jan and onwards, that facility was removed from the free groups

Only those created before the 15th can create sub groups

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 19/01/2020 21:11, Dave Pointer wrote:
I am fairly new to groups.io and have created a new group. ? ? I am the owner and now want to create a subgroup. ? ?Everything I¡¯ve read tells me to click on the subgroup tab in the left side menu. ? ?But I don¡¯t have a subgroup tab. ?What am I missing?


Re: No Subgroup tab

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 04:26 PM, Dave Pointer wrote:
I am fairly new to groups.io and have created a new group. ? ? I am the owner and now want to create a subgroup. ? ?Everything I¡¯ve read tells me to click on the subgroup tab in the left side menu. ? ?But I don¡¯t have a subgroup tab. ?What am I missing?
You must be logged in as owner or moderator with the privilege of creating a subgroup. Then go to Admin, and create a subgroup.?
You need to consider the right settings for your subgroup - visible to your group or not.?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup

Setting up a subgroup:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups

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No Subgroup tab

 

I am fairly new to groups.io and have created a new group. ? ? I am the owner and now want to create a subgroup. ? ?Everything I¡¯ve read tells me to click on the subgroup tab in the left side menu. ? ?But I don¡¯t have a subgroup tab. ?What am I missing?


Re: Still possible to get Yahoo Transfer of Message Archive? #yahoo #transfer

 

Bill,

Don't wait for that email. When I requested a download the promised email never
arrived, but the downloadable file was ready after a couple of days. That was
back when the rush was on, before they extended the date. Just go back to the
download page and see what it says there.

Jim

On 18 Jan 2020 at 17:44, Bill Hazel wrote:

Doug,
Your download looks like it is bigger than what I tried to do.
I initiated it almost 24 hours ago and still haven't gotten an email saying it's
ready.

How long did you have to wait?

Bill
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Re: Current policy on usage of Hashtags

 

I already mentioned the limit to 5 hashtags.

Thanks for the link.

David

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 1:09 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 01:49 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote:
What's the clear current policy of using hashtags in subject line
The site policy is up to 5 hashtags per topic.? If they're placed at the beginning of the subject, they're also copied to the end of the line.? See /static/help#hashtags for a more complete description.

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Re: Current policy on usage of Hashtags

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 01:49 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote:
What's the clear current policy of using hashtags in subject line
The site policy is up to 5 hashtags per topic.? If they're placed at the beginning of the subject, they're also copied to the end of the line.? See /static/help#hashtags for a more complete description.

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Re: Stop Reply All sending to Sender AND Group?

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:33 AM, Richard Waller wrote:
That's easy to configure BUT if someone uses 'reply all' then the sender gets two copies of the reply, one sent direct to them and one via the group. I'm guessing there is nothing I can do about that as it is outside the control of the groups.io platform.
This can depend on the email client being used as well.? Some ignore the Reply To: and use the From:? Since all messages are actually sent from the group, this causes problems when the default is Reply To Sender.

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Re: Hashtag question

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:32 AM, Moderator SamiJo wrote:
I reset all hashtags to only moderator can use and only moderator can reply.

Not only did the member¡¯s item show up in pending, another moderator actually approved it. And the next day it showed up again in pending as a new post. (I rejected it with a note to that member - again)

What else can I do?
I think this is related to (what I consider) a bug in the moderation process that I stumbled across some time ago.? When a group (or person) is set to moderated, their message goes into the pending queue before the hashtag is checked.? If you approve the message, it goes to the group instead of being processed for restricted hashtags.? I'll try to do another test later to see if it still exists.? (On the one I originally found it skipped the processing for a locked topic if it went through moderation, i.e. didn't get bounced.)

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Current policy on usage of Hashtags

 

I have a problem with one subscriber, who insisted on following the query thread rather than the current use of hashtags as posted.

What's the clear current policy of using hashtags in subject line (where hashtags push out the topic of the posts) versus use of hashtags in body of message?

I see several posts used either method and show up in hashtag topics just fine.

David Samuelsen, Rootsweb listowner refugee


Re: Converting PDF to RTF (was: Uploading files to Groups.io)

 

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> Has anyone used those options on "complicated" PDFs?
>I use Acrobat Pro X (not free) extensively with work, and
>?it has a Word/PDF conversion function.? It handles plain
>?ole text simple pdfs with the same standard font ok, but
>?I find once it gets an oddball PDF it tries creating all
>?sorts of Word frames and tables and whatnot that are
>?about impossible to deal with if you want to edit
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It sounds like the problem you're running into is PDFs that weren't initially?created in Word or any other word processing program. Many graphic-heavy PDFs are created in draw programs that know how to handle the different graphic files and are able to deal with 'adjusted' word and letter spacing. The program that created the file is generally the best to use to take it apart, but those may not be available. I have found that CorelDraw is very agile in taking apart PDF files, but you may still run into occasional?problems.
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Re: Converting PDF to RTF (was: Uploading files to Groups.io)

 

RTF has a bad reputation for carrying malicious content. It's fundamental to the RTF format so most folks are moving away from it.

Don't distribute in a format that security-conscious users will refuse to open. Every Android user I know has Adobe reader or another PDF reader downloaded already.


Re: Stop Reply All sending to Sender AND Group?

 

Ah, thanks - I thought you meant you included a line in the email as well as what is automatically in the footer. I'll have to think about the best option. Many thanks for your help.


Re: Converting PDF to RTF (was: Uploading files to Groups.io)

 

Anna wrote:
I have Android OS. Is there a way to convert the PDF
to RTF so that my members can read them easily?
Why not just use the Acrobat reader app for Android? It works simply and quite well for me. That way there's no need to alter the original document.

Dano


Re: Hashtag question

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Moderator SamiJo wrote:
Not only did the member¡¯s item show up in pending, another moderator actually approved it. And the next day it showed up again in pending as a new post. (I rejected it with a note to that member - again)
SamiJo -- As I said previously, if messages are landing in Pending, it's because they are awaiting moderation; NOT because a hashtag is restricted. If a regular subscriber uses a restricted hashtag the message will never get that far.

Check your hashtag settings and make sure they are set per the screenshot below. This should restrict these hashtags to Moderators but will not cause posts using them to land in moderation.

If messages are still landing in Pending, it's because your group is set to Moderated, or that topic has been moderated, or a non-subscriber sent the post, or you have that poster on a moderation override, or some other such reason.

Bruce



Re: Stop Reply All sending to Sender AND Group?

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 01:31 PM, Richard Waller wrote:
Many thanks for the quick reply. I haven't removed other options so the footer does have the 'Reply to Sender' etc. But when you say there is "a Reply to line added into the email" how do you configure that? If I could automatically add that line in near the start of the email that would be a possible solution.
In the wiki link I sent - about the footer, it says:

Reply to Sender: This is a mailto: link ¡ª it causes your email interface to open a new message composition window, directed to the sender's address. The new message will have the Subject line filled in, but will not contain a quote of the original (for that use Reply online). Note that proper functioning of this link is subject to the capabilities of your email interface and possibly to the settings in your operating system (default email client application).

And it does with Apple Mail.

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Re: Banned subscribers

 

Quite John

Yes fully aware anyone can use another email address or name for that matter to resubscribe

In this case it was merely finding out if the banned list exists, which it does, so all well

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 19/01/2020 17:49, John Pearce wrote:
A banned person can always create a new email address with any free service using any name they can think of and rejoin your list.? You may have a group full of professional and sophisticated members but many are simply comprised of the masses.? People who require banning are often rather difficult people.


Re: Stop Reply All sending to Sender AND Group?

 

Hi Frances,

Many thanks for the quick reply. I haven't removed other options so the footer does have the 'Reply to Sender' etc. But when you say there is "a Reply to line added into the email" how do you configure that? If I could automatically add that line in near the start of the email that would be a possible solution.

Thanks,

Richard


Re: Basic question: using groups.io address #access

 

It worked - thanks SOOOO much!


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:19 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM, Karen Peteros wrote:
I don't k now what "an announcement group" means.? Any recommendations to help me get messages through?
On the Settings page for the group, scroll down to the Spam Control area.? You'll see that the "Announcement Group" box is checked.? Uncheck that and choose one of the other options, then scroll to the bottom and click Update Group.

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Re: Banned subscribers

John Pearce
 

A banned person can always create a new email address with any free service using any name they can think of and rejoin your list.? You may have a group full of professional and sophisticated members but many are simply comprised of the masses.? People who require banning are often rather difficult people.


Re: Stop Reply All sending to Sender AND Group?

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 12:33 PM, Richard Waller wrote:
Hi - I'm new to this and am configuring and testing a group and sub-groups. One of the things I wanted to achieve was to make the default 'reply to' the sender rather than the group. That's easy to configure BUT if someone uses 'reply all' then the sender gets two copies of the reply, one sent direct to them and one via the group. I'm guessing there is nothing I can do about that as it is outside the control of the groups.io platform.
However, just to make life difficult, if I set the 'reply to' to group (the default), both 'reply' and 'reply all' options in an email send to the group and neither replies to the sender. Is this an issue with my email client (Apple Mail)? Or is there something I'm setting incorrectly?
I could live with 'reply to' as the group IF members also had the option to reply to sender only (without having to manually change the destination email address).
The background to all of this is that I am trying to set up a system where members can, if they want, just use email to send and receive messages from the group without having to get involved in logging in to the forum, and I need to make it is easy and intuitive to use as possible.
Thanks for any advice!
I use Apple Mail.

My test group is set for Reply to Group.
I have not removed other reply options.

When I click on reply to a Group email, a reply message only goes to the group. It does not cc the sender.?
There is a Reply to line added into the email that takes care of this.

Additionally, the email footer gives me the option of replying to the group or to the sender only.
Clicking on one opens an email in my Apple Mail with the sender's email address in the To box.
If I choose reply to sender the subject is automatically reconfigured with Private added in:
Private: Re: [TEST FRANCES] test reply to reply all

Here is the footer.
?|?Reply To Group?|?Reply To Sender?|?Mute This Topic?|?

This works as long as you don't remove other reply options in Admin, Settings.
If you remove other reply options, the footers are:
View/Reply Online (#662) | Reply To Group | Mute This Topic | New Topic

Of course, a member can reply online as well, but I understand that you would like members to mainly work through email only.

Additionally, if someone belongs to a subgroup and only wants to get subgroup email right away, their subscription should be set to full featured digest or even Special Notices only. The subscriptions are separate for subgroups and main group.

See this help wiki page about footers - ?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers

Frances

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